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WHAT EXACTLY IS THE MEANING OF LACE CURTAIN IRISH. DOES THIS DENOTE THE "SHANTY" IRISH OR THE "UPPER CRUST" OF THE IRISH COMMUNITY? HOW DID THE TERM LACE CURTAIN IRISH COME INTO BEING? 4.254.67.203 ( talk) 03:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC) DEE MC GOWAN
— eric 05:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)...It seems impossible to document the origin of the term "lace curtain," but oral tradition indicates it had come into common usage by the 1890's to denominate those more well-to-do Irish whose rise in the world enabled them to afford, among other prestige symbols, lace curtains on the windows. The radio comic Fred Allen once offered a capsule definition of "lace curtain": "They have fruit in the house when no one's sick." Like similar terms, "lace-curtain Irish," while denoting a certain level of financial achievement, has connotations that go well beyond mere prosperity. It connotes a self-conscious, anxious attempt to create and maintain a certain level and mode of gentility... Shannon, W. V. (1989). The American Irish: a political and social portrait. p. 142. OCLC 61450856
— eric 05:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)By the 1930s, Americans used the term "lace curtain" as an adjective to describe "copying middle-class attributes; aspiring to middle-class standing." The derogatory comment referred specifically to people who could never reach American middle-class respectability. In 1934, the author James T. Farrell officially linked the phrase to an immigrant group—the Irish—in his Studs Lonigan trilogy. In a scene from Young Manhood, the young Irish Catholic protagonist took his girlfriend to a hotel dance and felt instantly "determined to become a part of it." After looking around, however, he decided that the glamour of the event was "artificial." "They were trying to put on the dog," he said to himself, "show that they were lace-curtain Irish, and lived in steam heat." Leavitt, S. A. (2002). From Catharine Beecher to Martha Stewart: a cultural history of domestic advice. p. 95. OCLC 49691258
Why when I drink pineapple juice or lemons does it taste ok while you're drinking it for however long (a second or ten, doesn't matter) but immediately after you stop drinking it gets the bitter aftertaste? What causes the bitterness to appear only after you stop drinking? 82.43.88.87 ( talk) 15:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
why Somali girls never get to have sex on the internet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.30.202.29 ( talk) 15:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Are any flying boats still in service around the world? 89.240.198.174 ( talk) 16:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
When a professional cricketer gets a catch, they throw the ball in the air and start celebrating. Are there any recorded incidents of one of them being hit on the head by the falling ball? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.198.174 ( talk) 16:51, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Anyone know what Tim Parker's full name is? -- SGBailey ( talk) 17:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Why do I feel chilly within about an hour after smoking a lot of marijuana? Moop Fan 17 ( talk) 18:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm currently in Lafayette-Indiana, i have a situation where i need to travel from Lafayette to State College-PA, every 2 months. Tell me the best mode of making my travel. Would trains be the best option?..how long would it take for me to reach? how much would the tickets be costing, how is the train system like in the states. kindly provide me all the information, that i need to no. thanks a lot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.252.224.65 ( talk) 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm an American citizen who'd like to travel to Cuba. Any suggestions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.188.251 ( talk) 21:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
How do I get around the restrictions? And don't be a smartass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.188.251 ( talk) 22:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Where are some good places to share art on the web? Black Carrot ( talk) 21:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Interesting. I'll take a good look at Yessy and Flickr. I'm looking for something like DeviantArt, which I'm a member of, but with more relaxed rules about explicit content. It's the best I've found, but it still draws a pretty sharp line pretty early on. Black Carrot ( talk) 04:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I've taken a look a them. ArtWanted forbids explicit content of any kind. Yessy has no rules against it, but they don't seem to have anyone posting anything very objectionable, so I worry there might be some sort of "unwritten rule". Flickr looks more promising, though it seems to be focused primarily on photography and I like to draw. Any other ideas? Black Carrot ( talk) 22:02, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Come on people, please DONATE. The Admins on here are very sexy, cool and helpful. One has even helped me out. Will you please donate? 65.173.104.138 ( talk) 21:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
How to detect woman orgasm by man. Is it best with penis or fingers?
I prefer to use penis for orgasm detection. Or fingers.. Not sure really, perhaps orgasm is urban legend; please correct article. 87.102.86.73 ( talk) 07:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Is it true that the United States government considers them a terrorist organization? -anon
If I leave all my money to WP when Im dead, can I have my own page saying I did it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.76.201.254 ( talk) 23:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
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WHAT EXACTLY IS THE MEANING OF LACE CURTAIN IRISH. DOES THIS DENOTE THE "SHANTY" IRISH OR THE "UPPER CRUST" OF THE IRISH COMMUNITY? HOW DID THE TERM LACE CURTAIN IRISH COME INTO BEING? 4.254.67.203 ( talk) 03:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC) DEE MC GOWAN
— eric 05:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)...It seems impossible to document the origin of the term "lace curtain," but oral tradition indicates it had come into common usage by the 1890's to denominate those more well-to-do Irish whose rise in the world enabled them to afford, among other prestige symbols, lace curtains on the windows. The radio comic Fred Allen once offered a capsule definition of "lace curtain": "They have fruit in the house when no one's sick." Like similar terms, "lace-curtain Irish," while denoting a certain level of financial achievement, has connotations that go well beyond mere prosperity. It connotes a self-conscious, anxious attempt to create and maintain a certain level and mode of gentility... Shannon, W. V. (1989). The American Irish: a political and social portrait. p. 142. OCLC 61450856
— eric 05:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)By the 1930s, Americans used the term "lace curtain" as an adjective to describe "copying middle-class attributes; aspiring to middle-class standing." The derogatory comment referred specifically to people who could never reach American middle-class respectability. In 1934, the author James T. Farrell officially linked the phrase to an immigrant group—the Irish—in his Studs Lonigan trilogy. In a scene from Young Manhood, the young Irish Catholic protagonist took his girlfriend to a hotel dance and felt instantly "determined to become a part of it." After looking around, however, he decided that the glamour of the event was "artificial." "They were trying to put on the dog," he said to himself, "show that they were lace-curtain Irish, and lived in steam heat." Leavitt, S. A. (2002). From Catharine Beecher to Martha Stewart: a cultural history of domestic advice. p. 95. OCLC 49691258
Why when I drink pineapple juice or lemons does it taste ok while you're drinking it for however long (a second or ten, doesn't matter) but immediately after you stop drinking it gets the bitter aftertaste? What causes the bitterness to appear only after you stop drinking? 82.43.88.87 ( talk) 15:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
why Somali girls never get to have sex on the internet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.30.202.29 ( talk) 15:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Are any flying boats still in service around the world? 89.240.198.174 ( talk) 16:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
When a professional cricketer gets a catch, they throw the ball in the air and start celebrating. Are there any recorded incidents of one of them being hit on the head by the falling ball? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.198.174 ( talk) 16:51, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Anyone know what Tim Parker's full name is? -- SGBailey ( talk) 17:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Why do I feel chilly within about an hour after smoking a lot of marijuana? Moop Fan 17 ( talk) 18:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm currently in Lafayette-Indiana, i have a situation where i need to travel from Lafayette to State College-PA, every 2 months. Tell me the best mode of making my travel. Would trains be the best option?..how long would it take for me to reach? how much would the tickets be costing, how is the train system like in the states. kindly provide me all the information, that i need to no. thanks a lot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.252.224.65 ( talk) 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm an American citizen who'd like to travel to Cuba. Any suggestions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.188.251 ( talk) 21:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
How do I get around the restrictions? And don't be a smartass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.188.251 ( talk) 22:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Where are some good places to share art on the web? Black Carrot ( talk) 21:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Interesting. I'll take a good look at Yessy and Flickr. I'm looking for something like DeviantArt, which I'm a member of, but with more relaxed rules about explicit content. It's the best I've found, but it still draws a pretty sharp line pretty early on. Black Carrot ( talk) 04:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I've taken a look a them. ArtWanted forbids explicit content of any kind. Yessy has no rules against it, but they don't seem to have anyone posting anything very objectionable, so I worry there might be some sort of "unwritten rule". Flickr looks more promising, though it seems to be focused primarily on photography and I like to draw. Any other ideas? Black Carrot ( talk) 22:02, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Come on people, please DONATE. The Admins on here are very sexy, cool and helpful. One has even helped me out. Will you please donate? 65.173.104.138 ( talk) 21:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
How to detect woman orgasm by man. Is it best with penis or fingers?
I prefer to use penis for orgasm detection. Or fingers.. Not sure really, perhaps orgasm is urban legend; please correct article. 87.102.86.73 ( talk) 07:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Is it true that the United States government considers them a terrorist organization? -anon
If I leave all my money to WP when Im dead, can I have my own page saying I did it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.76.201.254 ( talk) 23:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)