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Coals to Newcastle

Prompted by the inquiry above, I dimly recall hearing, perhaps on QI, that Millennials or younger people in general in the UK, were completely baffled by the phrase " Coals to Newcastle", due to the virtual extinction of the British coal industry. Is this based on any research? Alansplodge ( talk) 12:08, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply

The segment was in QI XL, series R episode 12. I would guess that it was based on this 2010 paper by Julia Miller of the University of Adelaide (see pages 10–11). Ajmint ( talk) 12:47, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Well, no, quite possibly not. Non-Australians probably don't realise it, but Newcastle, New South Wales was also a coal mining city, and that paper by Julia Miller appears to be talking about Australian English, not British English. HiLo48 ( talk) 01:09, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
The paper says that both British and Australian speakers were surveyed, and compares the two groups. Ajmint ( talk) 01:32, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Newcastle still is a coal town. "Famous for its coal, Newcastle is the largest coal exporting harbour in the world, exporting 159.9 million tonnes of coal in 2017." -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 23:22, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Thank you kindly Ajmint, just what I was looking for. Alansplodge ( talk) 19:26, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
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September 5 Information

Coals to Newcastle

Prompted by the inquiry above, I dimly recall hearing, perhaps on QI, that Millennials or younger people in general in the UK, were completely baffled by the phrase " Coals to Newcastle", due to the virtual extinction of the British coal industry. Is this based on any research? Alansplodge ( talk) 12:08, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply

The segment was in QI XL, series R episode 12. I would guess that it was based on this 2010 paper by Julia Miller of the University of Adelaide (see pages 10–11). Ajmint ( talk) 12:47, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Well, no, quite possibly not. Non-Australians probably don't realise it, but Newcastle, New South Wales was also a coal mining city, and that paper by Julia Miller appears to be talking about Australian English, not British English. HiLo48 ( talk) 01:09, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
The paper says that both British and Australian speakers were surveyed, and compares the two groups. Ajmint ( talk) 01:32, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Newcastle still is a coal town. "Famous for its coal, Newcastle is the largest coal exporting harbour in the world, exporting 159.9 million tonnes of coal in 2017." -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 23:22, 6 September 2020 (UTC) reply
Thank you kindly Ajmint, just what I was looking for. Alansplodge ( talk) 19:26, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply

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