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Heard of The Renee/Rene Society? One of my kin, who was a police officer told me about it. Supposedly, it is similar to NAMBLA, only that they target girls and boys. I've also seen reports of this on some old magazines as well. IF this is "for real", can this be sourced and used? Supposedly this org is into kiddie porn, worse. Thanks. 🤐😘🥰 Nuclear Sergeant ( talk) 03:56, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
I've run into a bit of a mystery with an 1869 painting by Renoir titled Madame Théodore Charpentier. Most wiki articles have her connected to the family of Georges Charpentier and Marguerite Charpentier, but I think this is an error of some kind. I don't see how Madame Théodore Charpentier could be connected to this family of the same name because 1) the couple weren't married until 1871, 2) Renoir didn't start painting for them until the mid-1870s (I suspect his first painting for the family was in 1876), and 3) the Le Cœurs were still patrons of Renoir at this time, perhaps all the way up until about 1874. On the other hand, I did find at least one obscure source written by someone I've never heard of before, a Lawrence Hanson, who I think was an art historian. He wrote a book that I've never seen cited anywhere else titled Renoir: the Man, the Painter, and His World (1968). In this book, he claims that in the summer of 1869, Renoir met Georges Charpentier at a party. Again, this is all very odd, as no other source mentions this. Being as curious as a cat, I looked at Hanson's source for this claim which didn't match anything in his bibliography, so there's no concordance; it's either a misprint of a listed source or, well, I don't know what. All in all, very, very weird. So, back to square one. Who is Madame Théodore Charpentier? Viriditas ( talk) 09:47, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello, The wikipedia page of Ravel's works lists the composition entitled "Saint François d'Assise" as lost. Please find the work. Just kidding. Though I would appreciate if anyone could rummage and discover any insight or contemporary commentary/descriptions of the peice.
Thank you 2600:1700:3D74:F010:EDF5:5857:F017:AB23 ( talk) 11:31, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Manuel de Falla a meme declare (Revue musicale, 1939) qu'une des parties avait ete ebauchee : le Sermon aux oiseauxfiveby( zero) 16:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Seeing that the book was first published in 1983 and that nowhere in the article about the book it is mentioned that it is set in the 1960s, I wanted to ask if the book is actually set in the 80s and the miniseries being set in the 60s was a creative choice of its creators.
Thanks in advance 109.242.60.18 ( talk) 14:05, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
The U.S. Championship described in the novel was partly modeled after the 1975 Championship in Oberlin, Ohio, which Tevis attended.Soltis, Marcy (May 1983). "Chess: A Novel Idea" (PDF). Chess Life. pp. 288–9. Wonder if anyone has recognized the games which
were constructed around the actual moves from nineteenth-century tournaments.fiveby( zero) 22:46, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I would like community input on two maps of Tibet in 1820. The northern boundary of Tibet in the two maps is wildly different. Which one is reliable, if either? And if neither or only one is reliable, what should be done? Or could both be right, despite the fact there are two different boundary lines? Thanks. Geographyinitiative ( talk) 15:44, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this and thinking about this. I totally agree with @ DOR (HK):(ex-HK)'s comment that cartography was not an exact science until much later. I also agree with @ Alansplodge: that there may not be a definitive answer. So the question is, if DOR and Alan are right: how should Wikipedia handle these two maps? Are they both "good enough" to show Wikipedia readers? Should they both include some kind of disclaimer, so that people don't think these are boundaries like a modern, clearly defined border? Wikipedia is a platform for fearlessly providing citation-based, reliable information. If that northern boundary was uncertain, why not add some kind of disclaimer on these maps directly, so people are not misled into thinking these lines are more than they are? Then a citation for that disclaimer could be added either on the image or on Wikimedia Commons. Thanks again! Geographyinitiative ( talk) 17:36, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Nowadays, we are used to a world consisting almost entirely of nation states with fixed borders and mutually recognized frontiers. That is a relatively recent situation (even for Europe, let alone elsewhere). As recently as the 1960s, the borders between Saudi Arabia and the various sultanates and emirates to its east were unsurveyed. The farther back you go, the more of this you have to take with a grain of salt. - Jmabel | Talk 00:29, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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Heard of The Renee/Rene Society? One of my kin, who was a police officer told me about it. Supposedly, it is similar to NAMBLA, only that they target girls and boys. I've also seen reports of this on some old magazines as well. IF this is "for real", can this be sourced and used? Supposedly this org is into kiddie porn, worse. Thanks. 🤐😘🥰 Nuclear Sergeant ( talk) 03:56, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
I've run into a bit of a mystery with an 1869 painting by Renoir titled Madame Théodore Charpentier. Most wiki articles have her connected to the family of Georges Charpentier and Marguerite Charpentier, but I think this is an error of some kind. I don't see how Madame Théodore Charpentier could be connected to this family of the same name because 1) the couple weren't married until 1871, 2) Renoir didn't start painting for them until the mid-1870s (I suspect his first painting for the family was in 1876), and 3) the Le Cœurs were still patrons of Renoir at this time, perhaps all the way up until about 1874. On the other hand, I did find at least one obscure source written by someone I've never heard of before, a Lawrence Hanson, who I think was an art historian. He wrote a book that I've never seen cited anywhere else titled Renoir: the Man, the Painter, and His World (1968). In this book, he claims that in the summer of 1869, Renoir met Georges Charpentier at a party. Again, this is all very odd, as no other source mentions this. Being as curious as a cat, I looked at Hanson's source for this claim which didn't match anything in his bibliography, so there's no concordance; it's either a misprint of a listed source or, well, I don't know what. All in all, very, very weird. So, back to square one. Who is Madame Théodore Charpentier? Viriditas ( talk) 09:47, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello, The wikipedia page of Ravel's works lists the composition entitled "Saint François d'Assise" as lost. Please find the work. Just kidding. Though I would appreciate if anyone could rummage and discover any insight or contemporary commentary/descriptions of the peice.
Thank you 2600:1700:3D74:F010:EDF5:5857:F017:AB23 ( talk) 11:31, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Manuel de Falla a meme declare (Revue musicale, 1939) qu'une des parties avait ete ebauchee : le Sermon aux oiseauxfiveby( zero) 16:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Seeing that the book was first published in 1983 and that nowhere in the article about the book it is mentioned that it is set in the 1960s, I wanted to ask if the book is actually set in the 80s and the miniseries being set in the 60s was a creative choice of its creators.
Thanks in advance 109.242.60.18 ( talk) 14:05, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
The U.S. Championship described in the novel was partly modeled after the 1975 Championship in Oberlin, Ohio, which Tevis attended.Soltis, Marcy (May 1983). "Chess: A Novel Idea" (PDF). Chess Life. pp. 288–9. Wonder if anyone has recognized the games which
were constructed around the actual moves from nineteenth-century tournaments.fiveby( zero) 22:46, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I would like community input on two maps of Tibet in 1820. The northern boundary of Tibet in the two maps is wildly different. Which one is reliable, if either? And if neither or only one is reliable, what should be done? Or could both be right, despite the fact there are two different boundary lines? Thanks. Geographyinitiative ( talk) 15:44, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this and thinking about this. I totally agree with @ DOR (HK):(ex-HK)'s comment that cartography was not an exact science until much later. I also agree with @ Alansplodge: that there may not be a definitive answer. So the question is, if DOR and Alan are right: how should Wikipedia handle these two maps? Are they both "good enough" to show Wikipedia readers? Should they both include some kind of disclaimer, so that people don't think these are boundaries like a modern, clearly defined border? Wikipedia is a platform for fearlessly providing citation-based, reliable information. If that northern boundary was uncertain, why not add some kind of disclaimer on these maps directly, so people are not misled into thinking these lines are more than they are? Then a citation for that disclaimer could be added either on the image or on Wikimedia Commons. Thanks again! Geographyinitiative ( talk) 17:36, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Nowadays, we are used to a world consisting almost entirely of nation states with fixed borders and mutually recognized frontiers. That is a relatively recent situation (even for Europe, let alone elsewhere). As recently as the 1960s, the borders between Saudi Arabia and the various sultanates and emirates to its east were unsurveyed. The farther back you go, the more of this you have to take with a grain of salt. - Jmabel | Talk 00:29, 22 July 2023 (UTC)