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MUSIC theory: a strange modulation called [...]

Hi, I know 3 modulations: 1) common chords 2) chromatic with one or more chromatisms 3) enharmonic.

I want to know the name of this modulation:

V 3_4 (Ab-Cb-Db-F) i.e. dominant of Gb major (as a very very short and "not resolved" digression of the main tone Eb minor) > to the II of F minor (i.e. G NATURAL!-Bb-Db-F called "half diminished seventh"). I dont see common chords here, nor chromatisms (Gb to G natural) nor enharmonies. I dont see that fa minor is the tone of the III degree (my Db is the dominant not the tonic). Surely an "avoided cadence"! i.e. a dominant landing to the II (or IV or VI) of a differnet tonality but without any chromatism. What the NAME of this modulation please? I guess that this IS a modulation, not a change of tonality. thanks a lot.

PS: with a *different* dominant like V Ab-C-Eb-Gb all were very easy: a "cadence to the altered subdominant" (G natural = IV# of Db major) and via "common chord modulation" this IV#7 of Db major is = II7 of F minor. ok! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vastymedoisa ( talkcontribs) 02:03, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

This is double posted with a copy on the miscellaneous desk. Might be a good idea to keep all the answers there rather than in two places.  Card Zero   (talk) 02:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
ok, sorry. I hope to read a reply. thanks to all contributors. Vastymedoisa ( talk) 11:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Animated film, featuring a rooster as the lead character

In the mid-late 90s or early 2000s, I recommended an animated comedy movie to my elderly father (RIP), who enjoyed comedies. The main character was a rooster, blustery and funny. The film had favorable reviews, from a comedic standpoint, and wasn't (solely) aimed at small children. Can anyone help me identify the film?

Afterwards, my Dad thought I had played a malicious trick on him, by "recommending a cartoon" (an animated film.) He said "I'll get you back for that!" Mystified, I reminded him of Saturday mornings, when he joined my brother & me in laughing at Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner, etc. He grumbled an agreement, but stated that "cartoons" are for children! I refrained from rebutting with Flesh Gordon or Fantastic Animation Festival, not to mention his own Saturday morning enjoyment of much milder entertainment. Any thoughts about the name of the Rooster film? Thanks for your consideration, Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 21:15, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Chicken Run (2000), starring Mel Gibson?  Card Zero   (talk) 22:10, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
@ Card Zero@ Shantavira Yes, I think it is Chicken Run! I never saw the film, but read the storyline (which I now recognize) and good reviews. Fits the timeline, and 97% by Rotten Tomatoes & 3.5 by Ebert constituted/constitues "Good Reviews", IMO.
Shantavira, I didn't know we had a fictional chicken list! (wow) My sincere thanks to both of you! Very helpful. Respectfully, Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 00:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Chicken Run is the one that leaps to mind, but if it's not that we do of course have a List of fictional chickens (although Rocky Rhodes seems to have been overlooked) which might jog your memory.-- Shantavira| feed me 08:24, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply

World Cup 2022 Panini

With all 32 teams finally known, when is the Panini World Cup album going to be released in mainland Europe? I tried looking myself but couldn't find anything. Please note we're not talking about Road to Qatar or whatever, just the good old classic World Cup album. Cheers, 88.207.58.88 ( talk) 22:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

August 24. Nanonic ( talk) 05:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
What's a World Cup Album? HiLo48 ( talk) 01:27, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Googling the subject, it appears to be an album for stickers. See Panini Group and Sticker album. --← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:15, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
My four year old granddaughter likes such things. We've kept her entertained recently with albums for unicorns, Paw Patrol and Bluey. HiLo48 ( talk) 04:00, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Yes. I almost added this to my earlier comment: "Kid stuff." :) --← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
And I wonder if any stickers will show migrant laborers gasping for water. --← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Entertainment desk
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Welcome to the Wikipedia Entertainment Reference Desk Archives
The page you are currently viewing is a transcluded archive page. While you can leave answers for any questions shown below, please ask new questions on one of the current reference desk pages.


June 14 Information

MUSIC theory: a strange modulation called [...]

Hi, I know 3 modulations: 1) common chords 2) chromatic with one or more chromatisms 3) enharmonic.

I want to know the name of this modulation:

V 3_4 (Ab-Cb-Db-F) i.e. dominant of Gb major (as a very very short and "not resolved" digression of the main tone Eb minor) > to the II of F minor (i.e. G NATURAL!-Bb-Db-F called "half diminished seventh"). I dont see common chords here, nor chromatisms (Gb to G natural) nor enharmonies. I dont see that fa minor is the tone of the III degree (my Db is the dominant not the tonic). Surely an "avoided cadence"! i.e. a dominant landing to the II (or IV or VI) of a differnet tonality but without any chromatism. What the NAME of this modulation please? I guess that this IS a modulation, not a change of tonality. thanks a lot.

PS: with a *different* dominant like V Ab-C-Eb-Gb all were very easy: a "cadence to the altered subdominant" (G natural = IV# of Db major) and via "common chord modulation" this IV#7 of Db major is = II7 of F minor. ok! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vastymedoisa ( talkcontribs) 02:03, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

This is double posted with a copy on the miscellaneous desk. Might be a good idea to keep all the answers there rather than in two places.  Card Zero   (talk) 02:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
ok, sorry. I hope to read a reply. thanks to all contributors. Vastymedoisa ( talk) 11:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Animated film, featuring a rooster as the lead character

In the mid-late 90s or early 2000s, I recommended an animated comedy movie to my elderly father (RIP), who enjoyed comedies. The main character was a rooster, blustery and funny. The film had favorable reviews, from a comedic standpoint, and wasn't (solely) aimed at small children. Can anyone help me identify the film?

Afterwards, my Dad thought I had played a malicious trick on him, by "recommending a cartoon" (an animated film.) He said "I'll get you back for that!" Mystified, I reminded him of Saturday mornings, when he joined my brother & me in laughing at Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner, etc. He grumbled an agreement, but stated that "cartoons" are for children! I refrained from rebutting with Flesh Gordon or Fantastic Animation Festival, not to mention his own Saturday morning enjoyment of much milder entertainment. Any thoughts about the name of the Rooster film? Thanks for your consideration, Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 21:15, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Chicken Run (2000), starring Mel Gibson?  Card Zero   (talk) 22:10, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply
@ Card Zero@ Shantavira Yes, I think it is Chicken Run! I never saw the film, but read the storyline (which I now recognize) and good reviews. Fits the timeline, and 97% by Rotten Tomatoes & 3.5 by Ebert constituted/constitues "Good Reviews", IMO.
Shantavira, I didn't know we had a fictional chicken list! (wow) My sincere thanks to both of you! Very helpful. Respectfully, Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 00:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Chicken Run is the one that leaps to mind, but if it's not that we do of course have a List of fictional chickens (although Rocky Rhodes seems to have been overlooked) which might jog your memory.-- Shantavira| feed me 08:24, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply

World Cup 2022 Panini

With all 32 teams finally known, when is the Panini World Cup album going to be released in mainland Europe? I tried looking myself but couldn't find anything. Please note we're not talking about Road to Qatar or whatever, just the good old classic World Cup album. Cheers, 88.207.58.88 ( talk) 22:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

August 24. Nanonic ( talk) 05:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC) reply
What's a World Cup Album? HiLo48 ( talk) 01:27, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Googling the subject, it appears to be an album for stickers. See Panini Group and Sticker album. --← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:15, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
My four year old granddaughter likes such things. We've kept her entertained recently with albums for unicorns, Paw Patrol and Bluey. HiLo48 ( talk) 04:00, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
Yes. I almost added this to my earlier comment: "Kid stuff." :) --← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply
And I wonder if any stickers will show migrant laborers gasping for water. --← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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