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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 17, 2018.

Cashina Krabs

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 31#Cashina Krabs

Evil Krabby Patty Man

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The result of the discussion was delete. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 17:39, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article, and seems to possible be the creator’s opinion of the target subject via a name with no sources. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete No evidence this name has ever been used in the show. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Hoax. wumbolo ^^^ 14:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Nominator comment: Turns out that this redirect is eligible for speedy deletion via criterion G5, so I have tagged it as so. Steel1943 ( talk) 15:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Eugene Herbert Victor Krabs

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:58, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This seems like a mashup of two different characters’ names. The target subject’s name is "Eugene Herbert Krabs", and Victor Krabs is a different character. This redirect seems misleading since there seem to be no sources that cite "Victor" being part of the target’s name, and thus may be some sort of WP:NOTWIKIA issue. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Squidward's Suicide

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Creepypasta#Suicide Squidward/withdrawn. Steel1943 ( talk) 14:41, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:04, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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SQUIDWARD!!

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete by Athaenara per criterion G7. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:22, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply

I fail to see how this WP:COSTLY redirect with two exclamation points at the end is a likely or helpful search term. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:58, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Might even be a WP:G2. wumbolo ^^^ 14:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Maybe I was asked to look at this RfD? The page history says this is the title of a SpongeBob book. In which case the redirect should be kept, or maybe retargeted. I can't find any book with this title though, which would make delete a valid result too. Somebody familiar with the material should clarify. SchmuckyTheCat ( talk) 22:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete (read below reply) Whatever the situation/maintenance task of the day was in 2006 I can't recall or justify why this exists now. It's not in my normal editing area. Nothing in what links here or the logs indicates previous conversations. In general I don't believe deleting redirects is useful, but there's nothing to defend here. SchmuckyTheCat ( talk) 23:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    • @ SchmuckyTheCat: "I was asked to look at this RfD?" You were notified because you are the editor who created this redirect over 12 years ago. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:26, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Squidward Tortellini

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The result of the discussion was delete. MBisanz talk 15:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. These names seem to have some sort of connection to The Great Snail Race, but that is a redirect to a episode list. Otherwise, these names seem like one-shot uses that fail WP:NOTWIKIA targeting their current target. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:57, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep as alternative name for character that has been used a few times. It's worthy of at least a redirect. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:03, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Not a search term, only relevant to the episode. wumbolo ^^^ 14:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, minor plot point that is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. The context is at q:SpongeBob SquarePants/Season 3#Episode 15 in case anyone is interested. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:11, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Squidward J. Tentacles

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:07, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

All sources I am finding show the target’s subject’s middle name starting with a "Q". In addition, the sources all seem like the "J" came about via failed WP:CRYSTAL back around 2006. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Unmentioned SpongeBob SquarePants concepts/settings

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The result of the discussion was delete. MBisanz talk 15:07, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Various settings/concepts not identified or mentioned in the target article. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete all except the ugly barnacle which is an iconic meme from the show. Surely we don't have to delete the ugly barnacle, or do we? :-( wumbolo ^^^ 14:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The Ugly Barnacle as it is very well known, delete the rest. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Nominator comment: From what I can see via third party search, it seems that the subject "the ugly barnacle" was mentioned in the episode " Something Smells" (a redirect to a episode list article) by Patrick Star, but that seems to be the only time it was ever mentioned. And turns out that this is a character. From what I can see, the subject "the ugly barnacle" has affinity to that episode only, and may not have ever been referenced again in later episodes. My point is that this seems to only be "well known" by experts of the target subject, and has no mentionable notability elsewhere other than WP:NOTWIKIA-ish Internet references like memes. Steel1943 ( talk) 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all per nom. The Ugly Barnacle is a fictional character within the SpongeBob universe, but all that is known about him is that "He was so ugly, everyone died." While I agree that The Ugly Barnacle stands out among the rest for notability, especially thanks to the Internet's love for pre-movie SpongeBob SquarePants episodes, it is only mentioned briefly in one episode and never again AFAIK. If one were to see a meme or hear mention of The Ugly Barnacle and couldn't identify its origin from the series (perhaps, someone who, similarly to Patrick Star, has been living under a rock), one would sooner check that term with a broad search engine like Google instead of WP. Paper Luigi T • C 21:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all because there is no information on any of these subjects on Wikipedia. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:14, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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The Wisenheimers

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Max Gilardi. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 07:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The term is not mentioned in the target article. In addition, third party search results for this redirect primarily return information for a band based out of Oakland, New Jersey. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Evil Spongebob

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

All search results I have found on third-party search engines return results for fan-made variations of SpongeBob SquarePants (character). Seems like a WP:NOTWIKIA issue. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete, not a useful search term. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Jellyfishing (hobby)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:55, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

I question the usefulness of this redirect. Yes, the concept of "jellyfishing" is exclusive to its target, specifically the eponymous character and Patrick Star, but the redirect’s appearance brings into question that this is a real-world concept. In addition, Jellyfishing is a redirect to an eponymous episode in a list article for the series, and the "hobby" itself is mentioned but not defined in the target, and does not seem to be mentioned or explained in detail elsewhere. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:20, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Implausible disambiguation. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:07, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Jellyfish as food exists and jellyfish fishing is a "multi-million dollar industry". [1] However, none of that is a hobby and I can't find any reliable sources discussing anything that could be covered by this redirect. wumbolo ^^^ 15:43, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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SpongePedia

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:54, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. Though the edit history states that this was a comic of some sort, this is a fan-based wiki. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:14, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Non-notable dead wiki. I happen to be very, very familiar with it. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Spongebob's Jobs

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 12:12, 27 December 2018 (UTC) reply

No such list at target article or at SpongeBob SquarePants (character). Steel1943 ( talk) 22:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Thug Tug

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The result of the discussion was Delete. The lack of mention at the target article convinces me that the delete arguemnts are the stronger here. Thryduulf ( talk) 18:11, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Unnotable concept/setting that is not mentioned in the target article, and would probably fail WP:NOTWIKIA otherwise. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. Retarget to The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie. Not mentioned there, but it's the third most important location in the film, right after the Krusty Krabs and Shell City. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per above, though I'm not sure why Wumbolo suggests retargeting to the existing target. Probably he just made a mistake and meant to !vote keep. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Fixed, thanks. wumbolo ^^^ 15:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Nominator comment: Per the comments above, if this setting is such an important concept in the target article, then it really should be mentioned and identified there. Otherwise, readers who look up this redirect will neither 1) find what they are looking for, and 2) not know why they arrived at their current target since one cannot assume that everybody knows what is going on. Otherwise, this redirect is really nothing better than unclear WP:NOTWIKIA-ish fan-type promotion. Steel1943 ( talk) 17:45, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. As someone who is very familiar with the series, the movie, and even the video game based on the movie, I honestly wouldn't have known this related to SpongeBob out of context. Paper Luigi T • C 21:33, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Just because the pub's name is not well known does not mean the redirect shouldn't exist. Part of the confusion may be that the video game level is called "Bubble Blowing Baby Hunt" and it's easy to forget the name of the Thug Tug. wumbolo ^^^ 22:37, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete "Thug Tug" is not mentioned at the target article, so it is unhelpful to redirect this term there. Someone looking for specific information on this will not be able to find it at the target. -- Tavix ( talk) 21:47, 21 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie 2: Road Trip's Most Wanted

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Athaenara ( talk · contribs). The deletion summary uses WP:G6, but it was probably a misclick because this is an obvious WP:G7. -- Tavix ( talk) 14:37, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply

It seems as though these redirects are failed WP:CRYSTAL titles for the subject at The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water. I’m not even finding references on third party search engines that these were ever working titles for the aforementioned subject. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:52, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Speedy delete WP:G7 — Mediran  [talk] 04:03, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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SpongeBob Nation

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in the target article. Per the redirect’s history, it seems to refer to a fan-made forum to discuss the subject of the redirect’s target, leaving the subject of the redirect unnotable. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Looking further at the redirect’s history, when this page was an article for the few brief hours that it was, it probably would have been eligible for G11 speedy deletion, if that criterion existed back in 2006. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:55, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom, but read the rest of my comment for some very fun trivia. So, this is a forum created by abney317, a guy or girl who apparently holds every full-game speedrun world record for Mario Kart 64. [2] wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Spongebob joystick game

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The redirect is unclear in what it refers to. Per the history of the redirect, this title was used for an article about an 8-bit video game released in 2003; what seems to be the only SpongeBob SquarePants-related video game released in 2003, SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom, was not 8-bit. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:51, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete unnecessary redirect. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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National No SpongeBob Day

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 12:11, 27 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. Such a topic would probably fail WP:NOTWIKIA as a one-time mention. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:23, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Not mentioned in target article. Smartyllama ( talk) 21:54, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. This is a hoax in the actual episode, lol. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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SpongeBob Bio

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The result of the discussion was keep. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 12:11, 27 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The use of the word "Bio" seems to be an unlikely search term, considering that there seems to be no precedence for such search terms towards biographical and/or fictional subjects. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep as a plausible search term. The search does indeed take you to SpongeBob's bio. WP:ITSUSEFUL is a bad argument at AfD, but it's a valid one at RfD. Smartyllama ( talk) 21:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per above and WP:CHEAP. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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DadMom AngryPants

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:52, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Turns out that this is a not an alternative name for the target, but rather an {{ R from quote}} stated by Patrick Star directed towards the target article’s subject. From what I’m seeing via third party engines, I don’t think it is notable enough to pass WP:NOTWIKIA to target any place (delete), but if it did target someplace, the best target would probably be ... actually, between SpongeBob SquarePants, Patrick Star and SpongeBob SquarePants (character), I have no idea. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. The quote is definitely insignificant. The closest this comes to any significance whatsoever is that someone at sbmania.net with 9,319 posts has DadMom AngryPants as her username. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Robert Squarepants

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This doesn’t seem to be an alternative name for the target subject. From research on third party engines, it seems that the subject of this redirect may not have ever been in SpongeBob SquarePants, but rather is a fan-made anime version of the target subject, and would thus fail WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 ( talk) 19:55, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Speedy delete then, per nom. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Recurring jokes in SpongeBob SquarePants

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 28#Recurring jokes in SpongeBob SquarePants

Name changes on SpongeBob SquarePants

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 28#Name changes on SpongeBob SquarePants

Foreign language redirects to SpongeBob SquarePants

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Patrick Bio

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 12:10, 27 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This redirect probably refers to Patrick Star, but since the redirect seems to not be an alternative name for Patrick Star, this redirect could refer to the "bio" of any "Patrick". Steel1943 ( talk) 19:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Not sure why this redirects to the showpage rather than the character page. In any case, unlike the SpongeBob Bio redirect, there are numerous Patricks, real and fictional, this can be referring to. Too vague. Smartyllama ( talk) 22:02, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Unmentioned subjects at List of SpongeBob SquarePants characters

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

None of these characters are mentioned in the target article/list. Steel1943 ( talk) 18:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Delete all per nom. — Mediran  [talk] 04:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all. We want objective criteria to judge these redirects, and whether they are mentioned in the target article is the only objective thing to do here. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Mama Tentacls

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:35, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Doesn’t seem like a plausible misspelling due to how "Tentacls" is spelled. Steel1943 ( talk) 17:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Wheelbench

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Unreleased and/or cancelled media subjects with "upcoming" redirects

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The result of the discussion was delete. MBisanz talk 15:09, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Unreleased and/or cancelled media subjects are not upcoming. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:02, 28 November 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per nom. -- wooden superman 12:44, 30 November 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Is Viral actually canceled? The latest reference there said the film was about to "go on floors". I wasn't familiar with the phrase, which I thought meant cancellation, but it turns out to be an Indian English phrase meaning "in production". Regarding Breakaway, I could see some value to holding onto it for a bit longer for readers who may not know that it's been canceled. Eventually, though, it will be outdated; I don't think there's a good argument for keeping the Motorcycle Diaries one 14 years later. -- BDD ( talk) 16:58, 3 December 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To discuss the Viral and Breakaway redirects
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Vern Watts

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The result of the discussion was keep. MBisanz talk 15:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

There is no indication that the individual named in this redirect is notable nor held the position aside from their own linkedin/blog claim, nor are the sources added in the target article supporting this (and the one that does is not at all reliable.) Praxidicae ( talk) 17:58, 9 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep as his connection to the target is easily verifiable in third-party printed sources [3] [4], the target is the topic with which he is most closely connected, and redirects are not required to be notable. 59.149.124.29 ( talk) 12:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep. Watts is actually arguably borderline-notable enough to merit his own article. The main obstacles to such an article would be WP:ONEEVENT, given that his best-known association is with IMS, subject of the target article, and related to that, there's not much written about him other than his work with IMS and related areas. However, someone looking up Watts -- and he's well-known enough that readers would look him up -- are best served by being redirected to the work most prominently associated with him, and which describes his involvement there. Note also the references mentioned in IP editor 59.149.124.29's comment above. TJRC ( talk) 23:15, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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American settlers

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Gary Star

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. In addition, if this was an alternative name for the target at some point, it would have some brief association with Patrick Star to a point where it is probably a WP:NOTWIKIA issue. Steel1943 ( talk) 15:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. As mentioned above, this is not a character in the series and is also not mentioned in the article. Steve Lux, Jr. ( talk) 17:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. There's an entire 160-word article about this redirect's topic on Wikia, but it is not relevant beyond a couple of episodes. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Electability

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The result of the discussion was delete which seems to be the most amenable solution. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The subject of this redirect may be confusing pointing to its current target. I’d think there would be a better target fur this redirect somewhere, such as an article about a subject pertaining to how to measure the chances of someone being elected, but I cannot find such a subject at the moment. Steel1943 ( talk) 06:22, 9 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete or soft-redirect to wikt:electability as a well understood everyday word ( WP:OVERLINK). Only three pages link to this and they all refer to the same matter: that based on opinion polls, Chris Shays asserted during a primary campaign that he had more "electability" than Linda McMahon in the general election. – wbm1058 ( talk) 12:10, 9 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: there is a possible misunderstanding with eligibility. Wakari07 ( talk) 13:58, 9 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. "Possessing the likelihood of winning an election" is a topic that isn't likely to get an article any time soon (if I'm wrong, we can always undelete and retarget), and I can't think of a target that's close enough to warrant this redirecting there. Per Wakari, if I didn't know what the term meant, I'd be confused by the current target and imagine that it referred to one's ability to win, not one's likelihood of winning. Nyttend ( talk) 23:36, 10 December 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Although the only two bolded !votes are for delete, three of the four participants expressed some thought that a non-delete option might be possible, even desirable, so I think it's worth relisting to get a stronger consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory ( u • t • c) 14:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, November 2018

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The result of the discussion was nom. rescinds, since article has been created. (non-admin closure) UnitedStatesian ( talk) 20:28, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Delete The consensus was, here, that until such an event could be documented in a reliable source, the page would remain uncreated. UnitedStatesian ( talk) 14:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. Seems like a misinterpretation of the linked discussion occurred. The deletion discussion linked above formed consensus that months that happen in the future should be deleted per WP:CRYSTAL; November 2018 happened in the past. Steel1943 ( talk) 14:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Striking out my comment per the nominator’s clarification. From what I understand, the nominator is stating that Wikipedia includes no information about any instances in November 2018 that the redirect should not exist. I’m not sure if I agree with that, but it’s enough for me to withdraw my opinion to keep this redirect, leaving me neutral. Steel1943 ( talk) 16:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • ( edit conflict) Keep - a very plausible search term for the target. The linked AfD actually came to the conclusion that articles for these per month lists should not be created in advance of that month happening. This is a redirect from a month that has concluded and so the consensus there is entirely irrelevant. Even if there were no documented killings in November 2018 (I don't know), the redirect remains a useful search term given the existence of other articles and redirects in the same pattern. If you have an issue with the target page then nominate it at AfD. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:37, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Sorry, should have been clearer in my nom. I understand the linked AfD only covered future articles, but I think the same concept apples to past or current months with no (yet) documented events. The existence of a redirect implies that such events took place, when so far there are no reliable sources to indicate they did, and therefore IMO constitutes original research. Say these killings magically stopped: would we continue creating a redirect each month? UnitedStatesian ( talk) 14:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Per the second last sentence of my comment, that does not affect my opinion of this redirect at all. If these killings magically stop (I hope they do, but I find it unlikely) then we would stop creating per month redirects when it has become clear that they have stopped and people are no longer likely to search for them. The redirects do not imply anything about whether such killings are happening or not - your arguments are relevant to not creating articles about these months, but not relevant to redirects to year articles. Thryduulf ( talk) 20:01, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Keep or create article - Keep as a valid search term, as unfortunately, there are likely to have been such deaths. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 15:37, 17 December 2018 (UTC) -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 19:58, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Given that most prior months have featured killings, a reader might plausibly search for this to determine what killings, if any, happened in November. A redirect to where they can find that information is completely appropriate. Certain concerns such as WP:NPOV and WP:CRYSTAL explicitly do not apply to redirects. Smartyllama ( talk) 21:57, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Keep - the Shooting of Jemel Roberson, a fairly high profile incident, occurred in November 2018, as well as the Mercy Hospital shooting where the perpetrator was killed by police. Unfortunately there are probably other incidents that were not as high profile. Inter&anthro ( talk) 23:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - An article has been created at this location. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 23:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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TheWhigs

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

I get it that typos exists and we (for the most part) are human, but this just seems implausible to me as a typo. Paper Luigi T • C 11:31, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Telegraphing (entertainment)

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The result of the discussion was prcedural close - no longer a redirect. The new stub article can be nominated at AfD if anyone desires that. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:40, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The target article no longer has a section "Telegraphing" and the article has no mention of "telegraphing". Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 10:11, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

There was a 2012 discussion which moved the short stub as a section at Foreshadowing. The section at the target was expanded and worked upon, but has since been deleted as they are really different concepts. Since the concept is relevant and notable (and it has several articles targeting to it with this precise meaning), I'm restoring the content as a stand-alone Start-class article with the content that was removed from the section, so that it can be improved. Diego ( talk) 11:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Spin Out (The Flash)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The episode has been renamed "The Flash and the Furious" ( https://comicbook.com/dc/2018/12/12/the-flash-and-the-furious-preview-the-cw-/). Or maybe the name "Spin Out" was a rumour. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:14, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete - I followed what was written in the season table, if it was wrong or has changed, just delete this. -- Gonnym ( talk) 10:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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List of one game or playoffs only NHL players

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This is a bit misleading because the redirect sounds like NHL players who only played in the playoffs, no matter how many games, would be listed at the target, but that's not the way the list is defined. -- Tavix ( talk) 02:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Is it a game or a playoff? And what are the NHL players doing? Steel1943 ( talk) 22:03, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The creator of the article originally intended for playoff-only players to be included with the one-gamers but changed his mind a half hour after creating it. -- SP17 ( talk) 01:24, 24 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Bob Price (ice hockey)

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Ryan Meaux

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This is way too broad of a target for this subject. He's mentioned in passing in a few articles, so deletion to reveal search results seems like the most helpful solution. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:35, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. I agree with the above explanation. No need for this search name to direct to a specific article. Steve Lux, Jr. ( talk) 17:50, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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B-double-flat major

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WikiProject Western Australia

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:34, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Properly nominating incorrectly placed deletion request at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WikiProject Western Australia by Doctor Whooves:

The mainspace redirect WikiProject Western Australia is related to Wikipedia:WikiProject Western Australia. Internal Wikipedia functions do not warrant a mainspace Wikipedia article on them as they are relegated to Wikipedia:example. Doctor Whooves ( talk) 04:22, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

{{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 00:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • This specific redirect was not part of that discussion, and that discussion was specifically for just those listed in that discussion per the closing summary. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:26, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete slowly per the consensus of that previous discussion. G4 applies to redirects only when a redirect with an (almost) identical title and (almost) identical target has been previously deleted per a discussion. Neither applies here. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy delete Per WP:R2 a cross-namepage redirect exists. – 2600:6C4E:580:A:5452:12EB:4A42:BBB ( talk) 20:23, 26 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Wikipedia namespace is listed as an exception in R2. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 23:28, 26 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Cashina Krabs

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 31#Cashina Krabs

Evil Krabby Patty Man

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The result of the discussion was delete. — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 17:39, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article, and seems to possible be the creator’s opinion of the target subject via a name with no sources. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete No evidence this name has ever been used in the show. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Hoax. wumbolo ^^^ 14:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Nominator comment: Turns out that this redirect is eligible for speedy deletion via criterion G5, so I have tagged it as so. Steel1943 ( talk) 15:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Eugene Herbert Victor Krabs

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:58, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This seems like a mashup of two different characters’ names. The target subject’s name is "Eugene Herbert Krabs", and Victor Krabs is a different character. This redirect seems misleading since there seem to be no sources that cite "Victor" being part of the target’s name, and thus may be some sort of WP:NOTWIKIA issue. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Squidward's Suicide

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Creepypasta#Suicide Squidward/withdrawn. Steel1943 ( talk) 14:41, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:04, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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SQUIDWARD!!

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete by Athaenara per criterion G7. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:22, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply

I fail to see how this WP:COSTLY redirect with two exclamation points at the end is a likely or helpful search term. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:58, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Might even be a WP:G2. wumbolo ^^^ 14:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Maybe I was asked to look at this RfD? The page history says this is the title of a SpongeBob book. In which case the redirect should be kept, or maybe retargeted. I can't find any book with this title though, which would make delete a valid result too. Somebody familiar with the material should clarify. SchmuckyTheCat ( talk) 22:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    • Delete (read below reply) Whatever the situation/maintenance task of the day was in 2006 I can't recall or justify why this exists now. It's not in my normal editing area. Nothing in what links here or the logs indicates previous conversations. In general I don't believe deleting redirects is useful, but there's nothing to defend here. SchmuckyTheCat ( talk) 23:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    • @ SchmuckyTheCat: "I was asked to look at this RfD?" You were notified because you are the editor who created this redirect over 12 years ago. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:26, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Squidward Tortellini

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The result of the discussion was delete. MBisanz talk 15:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. These names seem to have some sort of connection to The Great Snail Race, but that is a redirect to a episode list. Otherwise, these names seem like one-shot uses that fail WP:NOTWIKIA targeting their current target. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:57, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep as alternative name for character that has been used a few times. It's worthy of at least a redirect. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:03, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Not a search term, only relevant to the episode. wumbolo ^^^ 14:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, minor plot point that is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. The context is at q:SpongeBob SquarePants/Season 3#Episode 15 in case anyone is interested. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:11, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Squidward J. Tentacles

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:07, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

All sources I am finding show the target’s subject’s middle name starting with a "Q". In addition, the sources all seem like the "J" came about via failed WP:CRYSTAL back around 2006. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Unmentioned SpongeBob SquarePants concepts/settings

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The result of the discussion was delete. MBisanz talk 15:07, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Various settings/concepts not identified or mentioned in the target article. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete all except the ugly barnacle which is an iconic meme from the show. Surely we don't have to delete the ugly barnacle, or do we? :-( wumbolo ^^^ 14:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The Ugly Barnacle as it is very well known, delete the rest. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Nominator comment: From what I can see via third party search, it seems that the subject "the ugly barnacle" was mentioned in the episode " Something Smells" (a redirect to a episode list article) by Patrick Star, but that seems to be the only time it was ever mentioned. And turns out that this is a character. From what I can see, the subject "the ugly barnacle" has affinity to that episode only, and may not have ever been referenced again in later episodes. My point is that this seems to only be "well known" by experts of the target subject, and has no mentionable notability elsewhere other than WP:NOTWIKIA-ish Internet references like memes. Steel1943 ( talk) 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all per nom. The Ugly Barnacle is a fictional character within the SpongeBob universe, but all that is known about him is that "He was so ugly, everyone died." While I agree that The Ugly Barnacle stands out among the rest for notability, especially thanks to the Internet's love for pre-movie SpongeBob SquarePants episodes, it is only mentioned briefly in one episode and never again AFAIK. If one were to see a meme or hear mention of The Ugly Barnacle and couldn't identify its origin from the series (perhaps, someone who, similarly to Patrick Star, has been living under a rock), one would sooner check that term with a broad search engine like Google instead of WP. Paper Luigi T • C 21:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all because there is no information on any of these subjects on Wikipedia. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:14, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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The Wisenheimers

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Max Gilardi. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 07:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The term is not mentioned in the target article. In addition, third party search results for this redirect primarily return information for a band based out of Oakland, New Jersey. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Evil Spongebob

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

All search results I have found on third-party search engines return results for fan-made variations of SpongeBob SquarePants (character). Seems like a WP:NOTWIKIA issue. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete, not a useful search term. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Jellyfishing (hobby)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:55, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

I question the usefulness of this redirect. Yes, the concept of "jellyfishing" is exclusive to its target, specifically the eponymous character and Patrick Star, but the redirect’s appearance brings into question that this is a real-world concept. In addition, Jellyfishing is a redirect to an eponymous episode in a list article for the series, and the "hobby" itself is mentioned but not defined in the target, and does not seem to be mentioned or explained in detail elsewhere. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:20, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Implausible disambiguation. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:07, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Jellyfish as food exists and jellyfish fishing is a "multi-million dollar industry". [1] However, none of that is a hobby and I can't find any reliable sources discussing anything that could be covered by this redirect. wumbolo ^^^ 15:43, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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SpongePedia

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:54, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. Though the edit history states that this was a comic of some sort, this is a fan-based wiki. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:14, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Non-notable dead wiki. I happen to be very, very familiar with it. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Spongebob's Jobs

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 12:12, 27 December 2018 (UTC) reply

No such list at target article or at SpongeBob SquarePants (character). Steel1943 ( talk) 22:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Thug Tug

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The result of the discussion was Delete. The lack of mention at the target article convinces me that the delete arguemnts are the stronger here. Thryduulf ( talk) 18:11, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Unnotable concept/setting that is not mentioned in the target article, and would probably fail WP:NOTWIKIA otherwise. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. Retarget to The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie. Not mentioned there, but it's the third most important location in the film, right after the Krusty Krabs and Shell City. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per above, though I'm not sure why Wumbolo suggests retargeting to the existing target. Probably he just made a mistake and meant to !vote keep. Smartyllama ( talk) 14:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Fixed, thanks. wumbolo ^^^ 15:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Nominator comment: Per the comments above, if this setting is such an important concept in the target article, then it really should be mentioned and identified there. Otherwise, readers who look up this redirect will neither 1) find what they are looking for, and 2) not know why they arrived at their current target since one cannot assume that everybody knows what is going on. Otherwise, this redirect is really nothing better than unclear WP:NOTWIKIA-ish fan-type promotion. Steel1943 ( talk) 17:45, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. As someone who is very familiar with the series, the movie, and even the video game based on the movie, I honestly wouldn't have known this related to SpongeBob out of context. Paper Luigi T • C 21:33, 19 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Just because the pub's name is not well known does not mean the redirect shouldn't exist. Part of the confusion may be that the video game level is called "Bubble Blowing Baby Hunt" and it's easy to forget the name of the Thug Tug. wumbolo ^^^ 22:37, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete "Thug Tug" is not mentioned at the target article, so it is unhelpful to redirect this term there. Someone looking for specific information on this will not be able to find it at the target. -- Tavix ( talk) 21:47, 21 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie 2: Road Trip's Most Wanted

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Athaenara ( talk · contribs). The deletion summary uses WP:G6, but it was probably a misclick because this is an obvious WP:G7. -- Tavix ( talk) 14:37, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply

It seems as though these redirects are failed WP:CRYSTAL titles for the subject at The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water. I’m not even finding references on third party search engines that these were ever working titles for the aforementioned subject. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:52, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Speedy delete WP:G7 — Mediran  [talk] 04:03, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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SpongeBob Nation

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in the target article. Per the redirect’s history, it seems to refer to a fan-made forum to discuss the subject of the redirect’s target, leaving the subject of the redirect unnotable. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Looking further at the redirect’s history, when this page was an article for the few brief hours that it was, it probably would have been eligible for G11 speedy deletion, if that criterion existed back in 2006. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:55, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom, but read the rest of my comment for some very fun trivia. So, this is a forum created by abney317, a guy or girl who apparently holds every full-game speedrun world record for Mario Kart 64. [2] wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Spongebob joystick game

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The redirect is unclear in what it refers to. Per the history of the redirect, this title was used for an article about an 8-bit video game released in 2003; what seems to be the only SpongeBob SquarePants-related video game released in 2003, SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom, was not 8-bit. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:51, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete unnecessary redirect. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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National No SpongeBob Day

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 12:11, 27 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. Such a topic would probably fail WP:NOTWIKIA as a one-time mention. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:23, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Not mentioned in target article. Smartyllama ( talk) 21:54, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. This is a hoax in the actual episode, lol. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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SpongeBob Bio

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The result of the discussion was keep. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 12:11, 27 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The use of the word "Bio" seems to be an unlikely search term, considering that there seems to be no precedence for such search terms towards biographical and/or fictional subjects. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep as a plausible search term. The search does indeed take you to SpongeBob's bio. WP:ITSUSEFUL is a bad argument at AfD, but it's a valid one at RfD. Smartyllama ( talk) 21:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per above and WP:CHEAP. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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DadMom AngryPants

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:52, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Turns out that this is a not an alternative name for the target, but rather an {{ R from quote}} stated by Patrick Star directed towards the target article’s subject. From what I’m seeing via third party engines, I don’t think it is notable enough to pass WP:NOTWIKIA to target any place (delete), but if it did target someplace, the best target would probably be ... actually, between SpongeBob SquarePants, Patrick Star and SpongeBob SquarePants (character), I have no idea. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. The quote is definitely insignificant. The closest this comes to any significance whatsoever is that someone at sbmania.net with 9,319 posts has DadMom AngryPants as her username. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Robert Squarepants

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 14:05, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This doesn’t seem to be an alternative name for the target subject. From research on third party engines, it seems that the subject of this redirect may not have ever been in SpongeBob SquarePants, but rather is a fan-made anime version of the target subject, and would thus fail WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 ( talk) 19:55, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Speedy delete then, per nom. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Recurring jokes in SpongeBob SquarePants

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Name changes on SpongeBob SquarePants

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Foreign language redirects to SpongeBob SquarePants

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Patrick Bio

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The result of the discussion was delete. Anarchyte ( talk | work) 12:10, 27 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This redirect probably refers to Patrick Star, but since the redirect seems to not be an alternative name for Patrick Star, this redirect could refer to the "bio" of any "Patrick". Steel1943 ( talk) 19:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Not sure why this redirects to the showpage rather than the character page. In any case, unlike the SpongeBob Bio redirect, there are numerous Patricks, real and fictional, this can be referring to. Too vague. Smartyllama ( talk) 22:02, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Unmentioned subjects at List of SpongeBob SquarePants characters

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

None of these characters are mentioned in the target article/list. Steel1943 ( talk) 18:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Delete all per nom. — Mediran  [talk] 04:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all. We want objective criteria to judge these redirects, and whether they are mentioned in the target article is the only objective thing to do here. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Mama Tentacls

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:35, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Doesn’t seem like a plausible misspelling due to how "Tentacls" is spelled. Steel1943 ( talk) 17:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Wheelbench

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Unreleased and/or cancelled media subjects with "upcoming" redirects

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The result of the discussion was delete. MBisanz talk 15:09, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Unreleased and/or cancelled media subjects are not upcoming. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:02, 28 November 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per nom. -- wooden superman 12:44, 30 November 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Is Viral actually canceled? The latest reference there said the film was about to "go on floors". I wasn't familiar with the phrase, which I thought meant cancellation, but it turns out to be an Indian English phrase meaning "in production". Regarding Breakaway, I could see some value to holding onto it for a bit longer for readers who may not know that it's been canceled. Eventually, though, it will be outdated; I don't think there's a good argument for keeping the Motorcycle Diaries one 14 years later. -- BDD ( talk) 16:58, 3 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Vern Watts

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The result of the discussion was keep. MBisanz talk 15:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

There is no indication that the individual named in this redirect is notable nor held the position aside from their own linkedin/blog claim, nor are the sources added in the target article supporting this (and the one that does is not at all reliable.) Praxidicae ( talk) 17:58, 9 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep as his connection to the target is easily verifiable in third-party printed sources [3] [4], the target is the topic with which he is most closely connected, and redirects are not required to be notable. 59.149.124.29 ( talk) 12:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep. Watts is actually arguably borderline-notable enough to merit his own article. The main obstacles to such an article would be WP:ONEEVENT, given that his best-known association is with IMS, subject of the target article, and related to that, there's not much written about him other than his work with IMS and related areas. However, someone looking up Watts -- and he's well-known enough that readers would look him up -- are best served by being redirected to the work most prominently associated with him, and which describes his involvement there. Note also the references mentioned in IP editor 59.149.124.29's comment above. TJRC ( talk) 23:15, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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American settlers

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Gary Star

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. In addition, if this was an alternative name for the target at some point, it would have some brief association with Patrick Star to a point where it is probably a WP:NOTWIKIA issue. Steel1943 ( talk) 15:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. As mentioned above, this is not a character in the series and is also not mentioned in the article. Steve Lux, Jr. ( talk) 17:48, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. There's an entire 160-word article about this redirect's topic on Wikia, but it is not relevant beyond a couple of episodes. wumbolo ^^^ 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Electability

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The result of the discussion was delete which seems to be the most amenable solution. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The subject of this redirect may be confusing pointing to its current target. I’d think there would be a better target fur this redirect somewhere, such as an article about a subject pertaining to how to measure the chances of someone being elected, but I cannot find such a subject at the moment. Steel1943 ( talk) 06:22, 9 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete or soft-redirect to wikt:electability as a well understood everyday word ( WP:OVERLINK). Only three pages link to this and they all refer to the same matter: that based on opinion polls, Chris Shays asserted during a primary campaign that he had more "electability" than Linda McMahon in the general election. – wbm1058 ( talk) 12:10, 9 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: there is a possible misunderstanding with eligibility. Wakari07 ( talk) 13:58, 9 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. "Possessing the likelihood of winning an election" is a topic that isn't likely to get an article any time soon (if I'm wrong, we can always undelete and retarget), and I can't think of a target that's close enough to warrant this redirecting there. Per Wakari, if I didn't know what the term meant, I'd be confused by the current target and imagine that it referred to one's ability to win, not one's likelihood of winning. Nyttend ( talk) 23:36, 10 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, November 2018

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The result of the discussion was nom. rescinds, since article has been created. (non-admin closure) UnitedStatesian ( talk) 20:28, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Delete The consensus was, here, that until such an event could be documented in a reliable source, the page would remain uncreated. UnitedStatesian ( talk) 14:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Keep. Seems like a misinterpretation of the linked discussion occurred. The deletion discussion linked above formed consensus that months that happen in the future should be deleted per WP:CRYSTAL; November 2018 happened in the past. Steel1943 ( talk) 14:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Striking out my comment per the nominator’s clarification. From what I understand, the nominator is stating that Wikipedia includes no information about any instances in November 2018 that the redirect should not exist. I’m not sure if I agree with that, but it’s enough for me to withdraw my opinion to keep this redirect, leaving me neutral. Steel1943 ( talk) 16:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • ( edit conflict) Keep - a very plausible search term for the target. The linked AfD actually came to the conclusion that articles for these per month lists should not be created in advance of that month happening. This is a redirect from a month that has concluded and so the consensus there is entirely irrelevant. Even if there were no documented killings in November 2018 (I don't know), the redirect remains a useful search term given the existence of other articles and redirects in the same pattern. If you have an issue with the target page then nominate it at AfD. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:37, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Sorry, should have been clearer in my nom. I understand the linked AfD only covered future articles, but I think the same concept apples to past or current months with no (yet) documented events. The existence of a redirect implies that such events took place, when so far there are no reliable sources to indicate they did, and therefore IMO constitutes original research. Say these killings magically stopped: would we continue creating a redirect each month? UnitedStatesian ( talk) 14:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Per the second last sentence of my comment, that does not affect my opinion of this redirect at all. If these killings magically stop (I hope they do, but I find it unlikely) then we would stop creating per month redirects when it has become clear that they have stopped and people are no longer likely to search for them. The redirects do not imply anything about whether such killings are happening or not - your arguments are relevant to not creating articles about these months, but not relevant to redirects to year articles. Thryduulf ( talk) 20:01, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Keep or create article - Keep as a valid search term, as unfortunately, there are likely to have been such deaths. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 15:37, 17 December 2018 (UTC) -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 19:58, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Given that most prior months have featured killings, a reader might plausibly search for this to determine what killings, if any, happened in November. A redirect to where they can find that information is completely appropriate. Certain concerns such as WP:NPOV and WP:CRYSTAL explicitly do not apply to redirects. Smartyllama ( talk) 21:57, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Keep - the Shooting of Jemel Roberson, a fairly high profile incident, occurred in November 2018, as well as the Mercy Hospital shooting where the perpetrator was killed by police. Unfortunately there are probably other incidents that were not as high profile. Inter&anthro ( talk) 23:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - An article has been created at this location. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 23:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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TheWhigs

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

I get it that typos exists and we (for the most part) are human, but this just seems implausible to me as a typo. Paper Luigi T • C 11:31, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Telegraphing (entertainment)

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The result of the discussion was prcedural close - no longer a redirect. The new stub article can be nominated at AfD if anyone desires that. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:40, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The target article no longer has a section "Telegraphing" and the article has no mention of "telegraphing". Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 10:11, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

There was a 2012 discussion which moved the short stub as a section at Foreshadowing. The section at the target was expanded and worked upon, but has since been deleted as they are really different concepts. Since the concept is relevant and notable (and it has several articles targeting to it with this precise meaning), I'm restoring the content as a stand-alone Start-class article with the content that was removed from the section, so that it can be improved. Diego ( talk) 11:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Spin Out (The Flash)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

The episode has been renamed "The Flash and the Furious" ( https://comicbook.com/dc/2018/12/12/the-flash-and-the-furious-preview-the-cw-/). Or maybe the name "Spin Out" was a rumour. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:14, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete - I followed what was written in the season table, if it was wrong or has changed, just delete this. -- Gonnym ( talk) 10:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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List of one game or playoffs only NHL players

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This is a bit misleading because the redirect sounds like NHL players who only played in the playoffs, no matter how many games, would be listed at the target, but that's not the way the list is defined. -- Tavix ( talk) 02:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. Is it a game or a playoff? And what are the NHL players doing? Steel1943 ( talk) 22:03, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. The creator of the article originally intended for playoff-only players to be included with the one-gamers but changed his mind a half hour after creating it. -- SP17 ( talk) 01:24, 24 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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Bob Price (ice hockey)

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Ryan Meaux

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 10:45, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

This is way too broad of a target for this subject. He's mentioned in passing in a few articles, so deletion to reveal search results seems like the most helpful solution. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:35, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Delete. I agree with the above explanation. No need for this search name to direct to a specific article. Steve Lux, Jr. ( talk) 17:50, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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B-double-flat major

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WikiProject Western Australia

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:34, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Properly nominating incorrectly placed deletion request at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WikiProject Western Australia by Doctor Whooves:

The mainspace redirect WikiProject Western Australia is related to Wikipedia:WikiProject Western Australia. Internal Wikipedia functions do not warrant a mainspace Wikipedia article on them as they are relegated to Wikipedia:example. Doctor Whooves ( talk) 04:22, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

{{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 00:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • This specific redirect was not part of that discussion, and that discussion was specifically for just those listed in that discussion per the closing summary. -- Tavix ( talk) 01:26, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete slowly per the consensus of that previous discussion. G4 applies to redirects only when a redirect with an (almost) identical title and (almost) identical target has been previously deleted per a discussion. Neither applies here. Thryduulf ( talk) 14:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy delete Per WP:R2 a cross-namepage redirect exists. – 2600:6C4E:580:A:5452:12EB:4A42:BBB ( talk) 20:23, 26 December 2018 (UTC) reply
    Wikipedia namespace is listed as an exception in R2. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 23:28, 26 December 2018 (UTC) reply
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