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December 6

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 6, 2016.

Infobox:User

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 21:47, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

CNR to non-reader content. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 22:46, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Unless anyone has even a remote argument why anyone would ever search for these with the expectation of finding an article, this is a deletion nomination which seems to be somewhat lacking in WP:COMMONSENSE. TimothyJosephWood 23:49, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
Cautious keep: violates XNR on the face of it, but going by TimothyJosephWood's reasoning, no reasonable person would search in the Infobox space for an article. Mihirpmehta ( talk) 04:52, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
There is not an Infobox namespace, according to Wikipedia:Namespace. This is just in the article namespace, isn't it? Si Trew ( talk) 05:07, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
Correct, these are pseudo-namespace redirects, but not one listed at Wikipedia:Shortcut#List of prefixes and as there is no other general precedent regarding "Infobox:" redirects I am aware of they need to be judged against on their individual merits. Thryduulf ( talk) 16:55, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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Pros and Cons of the U.S. Electoral College

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Fortunately, we don't need to hand this over to Congress to make a final decision. -- BDD ( talk) 21:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

WP:SOAPBOX biased name. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 22:33, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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United States of the United States

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 21:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Makes zero sense. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 22:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Spane

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The result of the discussion was dabify. -- BDD ( talk) 21:42, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

wikt:spane this is actually a word so it may be unhelpful. Maybe soft redirect to that entry. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 21:29, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Booke

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The result of the discussion was retarget. -- BDD ( talk) 21:22, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

I can't imagine someone searching this to find the book article. Propose retargeting to Sorrell Booke or otherwise dabify if there are other notable individuals with this surname. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 21:25, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Redirects containing "Cheif"

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Hillary Diane

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. A little over a year ago Wikipedians failed to arrive at a consensus regarding this redirect. After multiple relistings this time there is still no consensus. Thryduulf ( talk) 11:11, 17 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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WP:XY and WP:PTM. - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 06:19, 17 October 2016 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —  Godsy ( TALK CONT) 03:12, 27 October 2016 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This could be setting a precedent for "first + middle names only", so I think we'd be wise to see more discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 10:33, 14 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Keep "Hillary Diane Clinton was born Hillary Diane Rodham" on biography.com as example we see this is the common element of both her birth and current names. Redirects are cheap and it is a waste of time to talk about deleting this as it enhances searching and does no harm. If we locate anyone else notable with the forename pairing we could expand it into a disambiguation. Ranze ( talk) 11:19, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete; nowhere near a common use. "I've never heard it used" isn't particularly helpful with the subject of your average Wikipedia biography, but Hillary Rodham Clinton's been in the US news almost constantly for a quarter century, and the total absence of its use in my experience is significant, unless my experience is drastically atypical; if you can show that it is, I'll withdraw this vote. Nyttend ( talk) 05:00, 27 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - there is no reason to have an article based on her middle name. If you want to have Hillary Diane Clinton, ok. But not Hillary Diane. Hillary Diane is a real person, not related to the Clinton or Rodham families. Kellymoat ( talk) 13:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC) reply
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Relisting comment: We're still getting new input, so it doesn't hurt to keep this open another week.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 18:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
Sure, it keeps getting re-listed and new input added every time, but the deletes are out voting the keeps 2-to-1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellymoat ( talkcontribs) 20:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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US Citizenship

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The result of the discussion was keep, retarget to Citizenship of the United States, and keep, respectively. -- BDD ( talk) 21:20, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Not sure which target is better. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 07:00, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Krionérion, Greece

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Airline destinations

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 21:19, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Well, the section exists and is what you'd expect but.... this is a bit WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 05:07, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Before 2009 (with this edit) it targeted Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Airline destination lists, which I'd oppose retargeting back as that jumps from reader-facing space into editor space (does it? WikiProjects somewhat straddle those two spaces). But I'm not opposed to retargeting it to the category, since categories are in reader-facing space. Wikipedia:Cross-namespace_redirects#Arguments_for_keeping_CNRs #8 may be relevant, i.e. because of the history (I realise that page is just an essay). But Weak delete as it's hardly used (spike to 30 hits on 20 November for some reason; no links in mainspace) and is a near- WP:PTM for lots of articles that include "Airline destinations" (which Special:Search?search=Airline+destinations happily finds for the top search results). Si Trew ( talk) 04:27, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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Kubbestol

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The result of the discussion was delete and retarget to Ekaterina Sedia, respectively. -- BDD ( talk) 21:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Not related to these languages. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 04:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Warehouse party

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 21:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Redirect this to Rave instead, because that would probably be a better target. In the alternative, just delete it. The connection between source and target is totally unclear as it stands. Jehochman Talk 02:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Natalie Imbruglia (band)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:55, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Misleading disambiguator, not a band. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:47, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

  • Delete misleading. Devopam ( talk) 06:28, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Rob Zombie has famously said that yes he is a person, but when he is on stage he is in a band that happens to share the same name, and he would like people to distinguish between the two identities. And Alice Cooper has often done interviews and had to ask the interviewer which Alice he was asking. So, while the Natalie Imbriglia band page redirects to the personal page, there are people who will want info on the band and not the person. Without the redirect, they may be on the hunt for, or willing to create, a band page. Kellymoat ( talk) 21:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
    • There isn't even the need for any disambiguator in this case, let alone an incorrect one, people will get what they are looking for as the article covers multiple identities. We do not have other similar redirects like this for it may be too POV-pushing. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 21:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
      • I certainly don't want separate articles, but I see nothing wrong with keeping the redirect alive. However, I would point out that Alice Cooper has 3 pages. The man (which includes his personal life and his music/band), the original band, and a personnel page for the solo act. Kellymoat ( talk) 22:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
        • That is a separate issue not to be discussed at RFD. If you have any concerns please raise them on that article's talk page. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 23:04, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
          • Oh, no, I am not complaining. I actually prefer that some of these things have separate articles because they are separate entities that should have separate entries. I was just pointing out that it is not unheard of to have a band and personal page. In this case, Natalie Imbriglia, I voted to keep the redirect because they are separate entities even though it is not worth two separate articles. Afterall, isn't that why we use redirects. Kellymoat ( talk) 12:59, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete and scrutinize the contribs of the redirect's creator - they created several of these unnecessary (band) redirects. We have {{ R from unnecessary disambiguation}} but I don't see this as being a likely search at all. Might be useful in cases where a person's stage persona is notably separate from their individual persona, as is the case with Alice Cooper and Rob Zombie as noted above, even if we don't have separate articles, but there's no indication of that being the case with Natalie Imbruglia. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 16:31, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. I'll grant Alice Cooper as a case where there is an obvious context for "Alice Cooper the band" as a separate topic from "Alice Cooper né Vincent Furnier the person" — for one thing, "Alice Cooper" was originally the name of the band and not the name of the person; it became the name of the person only several albums later, after the band gave up on trying to correct people about "Alice Cooper means the band and not Vincent". But that's also a case where Alice Cooper and Alice Cooper (band) are actually already two separate standalone articles, and does not demonstrate the need for every musician who happens to be billed as a solo artist to have a redirect from "Name (band)" back to "Name" just because she's technically also the leader of an eponymous "band" of session musicians. If there were somehow legitimate grounds for "Natalie Imbruglia the band" to have a separate article from "Natalie Imbruglia the person", then this would be the correct title for that — but there's no need for it to exist as a redirect back to Natalie Imbruglia the person. Bearcat ( talk) 21:29, 11 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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რუსული ენა

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Not related to Georgian. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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HighGerman

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The result of the discussion was retarget to High German languages. -- BDD ( talk) 20:51, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

On several occasions this has indeed targeted High German languages but there has never been a discussion. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:17, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Moldavien

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Молдовеняскэ language

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 21:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Mixed language title, not a likely search term. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:15, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Twttr

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The result of the discussion was keep.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 21:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Smbdy hs brkn kybrd gn. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:11, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Touiteur

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Obscure synonym, not plausible. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:10, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

It does if you think that redirects should generally follow [{WP:TITLE]] (with obvious exceptions for lots of specific categories). Si Trew ( talk) 04:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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Telautomaton

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:43, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Obscure search term, misleading. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 00:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Flying machine

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Alien sideboob

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The result of the discussion was delete. I think we can all agree that "Alien sideboob" is not a synonym for the game itself, so the question becomes whether there will be information on the phrase at the target article. Given a comment on the talk page, its recent removal as noted here, and the fact that the target article is a GA, I judge that the article is considered stable without such information. Restoration of this redirect would be appropriate iff consensus could be built to include the information. -- BDD ( talk) 20:42, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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Non-notable meme, not mentioned in target, unlikely search candidate Ten Pound Hammer( What did I screw up now?) 00:00, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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December 6

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 6, 2016.

Infobox:User

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 21:47, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

CNR to non-reader content. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 22:46, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Unless anyone has even a remote argument why anyone would ever search for these with the expectation of finding an article, this is a deletion nomination which seems to be somewhat lacking in WP:COMMONSENSE. TimothyJosephWood 23:49, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
Cautious keep: violates XNR on the face of it, but going by TimothyJosephWood's reasoning, no reasonable person would search in the Infobox space for an article. Mihirpmehta ( talk) 04:52, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
There is not an Infobox namespace, according to Wikipedia:Namespace. This is just in the article namespace, isn't it? Si Trew ( talk) 05:07, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
Correct, these are pseudo-namespace redirects, but not one listed at Wikipedia:Shortcut#List of prefixes and as there is no other general precedent regarding "Infobox:" redirects I am aware of they need to be judged against on their individual merits. Thryduulf ( talk) 16:55, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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Pros and Cons of the U.S. Electoral College

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Fortunately, we don't need to hand this over to Congress to make a final decision. -- BDD ( talk) 21:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

WP:SOAPBOX biased name. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 22:33, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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United States of the United States

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 21:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Makes zero sense. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 22:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Spane

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The result of the discussion was dabify. -- BDD ( talk) 21:42, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

wikt:spane this is actually a word so it may be unhelpful. Maybe soft redirect to that entry. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 21:29, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Booke

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The result of the discussion was retarget. -- BDD ( talk) 21:22, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

I can't imagine someone searching this to find the book article. Propose retargeting to Sorrell Booke or otherwise dabify if there are other notable individuals with this surname. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 21:25, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Redirects containing "Cheif"

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Hillary Diane

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. A little over a year ago Wikipedians failed to arrive at a consensus regarding this redirect. After multiple relistings this time there is still no consensus. Thryduulf ( talk) 11:11, 17 December 2016 (UTC) reply
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

WP:XY and WP:PTM. - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 06:19, 17 October 2016 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —  Godsy ( TALK CONT) 03:12, 27 October 2016 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This could be setting a precedent for "first + middle names only", so I think we'd be wise to see more discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 10:33, 14 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Keep "Hillary Diane Clinton was born Hillary Diane Rodham" on biography.com as example we see this is the common element of both her birth and current names. Redirects are cheap and it is a waste of time to talk about deleting this as it enhances searching and does no harm. If we locate anyone else notable with the forename pairing we could expand it into a disambiguation. Ranze ( talk) 11:19, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 14:25, 23 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete; nowhere near a common use. "I've never heard it used" isn't particularly helpful with the subject of your average Wikipedia biography, but Hillary Rodham Clinton's been in the US news almost constantly for a quarter century, and the total absence of its use in my experience is significant, unless my experience is drastically atypical; if you can show that it is, I'll withdraw this vote. Nyttend ( talk) 05:00, 27 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - there is no reason to have an article based on her middle name. If you want to have Hillary Diane Clinton, ok. But not Hillary Diane. Hillary Diane is a real person, not related to the Clinton or Rodham families. Kellymoat ( talk) 13:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We're still getting new input, so it doesn't hurt to keep this open another week.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 18:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
Sure, it keeps getting re-listed and new input added every time, but the deletes are out voting the keeps 2-to-1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellymoat ( talkcontribs) 20:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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US Citizenship

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The result of the discussion was keep, retarget to Citizenship of the United States, and keep, respectively. -- BDD ( talk) 21:20, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Not sure which target is better. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 07:00, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Krionérion, Greece

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Airline destinations

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 21:19, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Well, the section exists and is what you'd expect but.... this is a bit WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew ( talk) 05:07, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Before 2009 (with this edit) it targeted Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Airline destination lists, which I'd oppose retargeting back as that jumps from reader-facing space into editor space (does it? WikiProjects somewhat straddle those two spaces). But I'm not opposed to retargeting it to the category, since categories are in reader-facing space. Wikipedia:Cross-namespace_redirects#Arguments_for_keeping_CNRs #8 may be relevant, i.e. because of the history (I realise that page is just an essay). But Weak delete as it's hardly used (spike to 30 hits on 20 November for some reason; no links in mainspace) and is a near- WP:PTM for lots of articles that include "Airline destinations" (which Special:Search?search=Airline+destinations happily finds for the top search results). Si Trew ( talk) 04:27, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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Kubbestol

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The result of the discussion was delete and retarget to Ekaterina Sedia, respectively. -- BDD ( talk) 21:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Not related to these languages. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 04:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Warehouse party

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 21:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Redirect this to Rave instead, because that would probably be a better target. In the alternative, just delete it. The connection between source and target is totally unclear as it stands. Jehochman Talk 02:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Natalie Imbruglia (band)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:55, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Misleading disambiguator, not a band. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:47, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

  • Delete misleading. Devopam ( talk) 06:28, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Rob Zombie has famously said that yes he is a person, but when he is on stage he is in a band that happens to share the same name, and he would like people to distinguish between the two identities. And Alice Cooper has often done interviews and had to ask the interviewer which Alice he was asking. So, while the Natalie Imbriglia band page redirects to the personal page, there are people who will want info on the band and not the person. Without the redirect, they may be on the hunt for, or willing to create, a band page. Kellymoat ( talk) 21:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
    • There isn't even the need for any disambiguator in this case, let alone an incorrect one, people will get what they are looking for as the article covers multiple identities. We do not have other similar redirects like this for it may be too POV-pushing. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 21:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
      • I certainly don't want separate articles, but I see nothing wrong with keeping the redirect alive. However, I would point out that Alice Cooper has 3 pages. The man (which includes his personal life and his music/band), the original band, and a personnel page for the solo act. Kellymoat ( talk) 22:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
        • That is a separate issue not to be discussed at RFD. If you have any concerns please raise them on that article's talk page. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 23:04, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply
          • Oh, no, I am not complaining. I actually prefer that some of these things have separate articles because they are separate entities that should have separate entries. I was just pointing out that it is not unheard of to have a band and personal page. In this case, Natalie Imbriglia, I voted to keep the redirect because they are separate entities even though it is not worth two separate articles. Afterall, isn't that why we use redirects. Kellymoat ( talk) 12:59, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete and scrutinize the contribs of the redirect's creator - they created several of these unnecessary (band) redirects. We have {{ R from unnecessary disambiguation}} but I don't see this as being a likely search at all. Might be useful in cases where a person's stage persona is notably separate from their individual persona, as is the case with Alice Cooper and Rob Zombie as noted above, even if we don't have separate articles, but there's no indication of that being the case with Natalie Imbruglia. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 16:31, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. I'll grant Alice Cooper as a case where there is an obvious context for "Alice Cooper the band" as a separate topic from "Alice Cooper né Vincent Furnier the person" — for one thing, "Alice Cooper" was originally the name of the band and not the name of the person; it became the name of the person only several albums later, after the band gave up on trying to correct people about "Alice Cooper means the band and not Vincent". But that's also a case where Alice Cooper and Alice Cooper (band) are actually already two separate standalone articles, and does not demonstrate the need for every musician who happens to be billed as a solo artist to have a redirect from "Name (band)" back to "Name" just because she's technically also the leader of an eponymous "band" of session musicians. If there were somehow legitimate grounds for "Natalie Imbruglia the band" to have a separate article from "Natalie Imbruglia the person", then this would be the correct title for that — but there's no need for it to exist as a redirect back to Natalie Imbruglia the person. Bearcat ( talk) 21:29, 11 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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რუსული ენა

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Not related to Georgian. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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HighGerman

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The result of the discussion was retarget to High German languages. -- BDD ( talk) 20:51, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

On several occasions this has indeed targeted High German languages but there has never been a discussion. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:17, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Moldavien

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 17#Moldavien

Молдовеняскэ language

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 21:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Mixed language title, not a likely search term. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:15, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Twttr

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The result of the discussion was keep.---- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 21:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Smbdy hs brkn kybrd gn. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:11, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Touiteur

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Obscure synonym, not plausible. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 01:10, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

It does if you think that redirects should generally follow [{WP:TITLE]] (with obvious exceptions for lots of specific categories). Si Trew ( talk) 04:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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Telautomaton

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:43, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Obscure search term, misleading. - CHAMPION ( talk) ( contributions) ( logs) 00:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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Flying machine

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 17#Flying machine

Alien sideboob

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. I think we can all agree that "Alien sideboob" is not a synonym for the game itself, so the question becomes whether there will be information on the phrase at the target article. Given a comment on the talk page, its recent removal as noted here, and the fact that the target article is a GA, I judge that the article is considered stable without such information. Restoration of this redirect would be appropriate iff consensus could be built to include the information. -- BDD ( talk) 20:42, 16 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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Non-notable meme, not mentioned in target, unlikely search candidate Ten Pound Hammer( What did I screw up now?) 00:00, 6 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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