This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 3, 2014.
I think scope should point to Scope (disambiguation) (or, perhaps, that should just be renamed to scope). Right now, scope points to Telescopic sight, which implies that's somehow the primary meaning of the word. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Confusing redirect from a non-existing village The Banner talk 22:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
{{
R from alternate spelling}}
could be put on it... but first the things need to be hatnoted properly after the page move.
Si Trew (
talk)
08:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
It's not right zoom in there's a settlement of that name. Just when I thought you were beginning to accept civil parish and village you go and do this. I've had enough. Kilmurry Ibrickane should cover the village and civil parish and the hatnote at the top to the religious parish of the same name. Dabbing it is totally unnecessary, if there isn't a hamlet or village of that name why is it labelled as such on google maps?♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
We can't have three different articles though Kilmurry, Kilmurry Ibrickane, and Kilmurry Ibrickane (Roman Catholic parish). It makes sense to at least have hamlet even if just called Kilmurry and mention the civil parish within it Kilmurray Ibrickane rather than all individually. I understand the difference between a Roman Catholic parish and a civil parish and agree that if its some sort of religious division like a diocese or sub division of that they should probably be distinguished. There must be some decent solution on this. The problem for me mainly is that if the religious parish is identical to the civil parish and there's not really much to say on either, or on the principal village of the same name it makes more sense to have it all consolidated in one article. I've just trying to install some sort of order and consistency into articles. We need to come to a solution on this as it's not fair to keep turning up here and bad mouthing what I'm doing when I'm trying to do just the opposite.♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
It does look like a townland sort of rural place on google maps I must say. But by default I think Kilmurray/Killmurrya Ibrickane should be the article on the civil parish/hamlet and the hat note to the religious parish at the top.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Refuse jurisdiction. This is a normal edit war/difference of opionion by two long-established and good faith editors, but should not have been brought to RfD. The redirect "(village)" can't be discussed while the articles are being moved about and so on, so there is no point in it being discussed at RfD. Once they settle, it can be discussed.
Si Trew (
talk)
08:50, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Delete. What's the point of this redirect? This is the English Wikipedia, not the Chinglish Wikipedia, and the Lanai article doesn't mention a place called "Ranai." I found it when looking up the place called Ranai on Google Maps, 3°55′27″N 108°23′17″E / 3.92422°N 108.38794°E, and I'll guess that similar accidents are the reason that lots of other people view it. 149.160.174.45 ( talk) 20:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Retarget to
Ranai Airport. Yes, it is both a stereotype and true that East Asians can confusing English L (back dental voiced) with English R (labial voiced), but would it help a Chinese or Japanese speaker coming to English Wikipedia or not? Since as
Ranai Airport I would imagine is just called "Ranai" in the way that "London Heathrow Airport" is just called "Heathrow" or "Budapest Ferencs Lizst repuloter" is just called "Ferihegy", or all these airports have their long oficcial names (George W. Bush International Airport Houston), etc. I think that probably people say "Ranai" to mean the airport as a shorthand or common name so that would seem to be best to retarget it there. If people from that part of the world say no, they don't, then I will happily change my opinion.
Si Trew (
talk)
09:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Retarget per above. (I remember being tempted once to buy a set of "Eyeret Priers" from a market stall simply for the label. Unfortunately, I resisted.) Peridon ( talk) 11:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Retarget to Ranai Airport, but create new Disambiguation page is better. Ranai is the name of island, mountain, and airport in the Natuna regency, Indonesia. Ranai town is also capital of the regency. At the moment only Ranai Airport article exist in english wikipedia. After we create Ranai Island and Ranai Mountain article, we can create new Disambiguation link. Also article Ranai, Indonesia is for Ranai town as the regency capital. *Annas* ( talk) 04:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Keep It is suppose to reflect historic Hawaiian pronounciation of the island!!! The L was sometimes pronounced like an R. [3] It is how Cook, Vancouver and how many early explorers wrote the name also.-- KAVEBEAR ( talk) 14:01, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Disambig per Lenticel. We can add a link to Lanai as well if we can find reliable sourcing on Ranai being a legitimate spelling or pronunciation of Lanai. — bbatsell ¿? ✍ 19:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
No clear reason given for this redirect to an obscure book; edit summary indicates it is an SEO test. ~ T P W 17:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Weak Delete Not sure what to do based on deletion of the target Nadesai ( talk) 12:58, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Delete - The target doesn't exist because of copyright infringement. Same logic for the redirect too. Nadesai ( talk) 12:48, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 March 14#Reflist
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 April 3#List of euphemisms
This is not a deletion request, but to retarget. Per some users we can't use partial titles like Thriller (album), Revolver (album) or Madonna (album) ( but as Thriller (Michael Jackson album), Revolver (Beatles album) or Madonna (Madonna album)), but such redirects can go to a page if the album is commonly known or associated to such title. The only competence for this album is Erotica (The Darling Buds album), which is not as popular or well-known as Madonna's ( WP:PTOPIC). Per precedent examples, this redirect should go to Erotica (Madonna album). © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 04:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
{{R to section}}
to a section of a dab, which is rather unusual, either it should redirect to the DAB in full rather than to a section, or the DAB should be split and the albums and songs at a a DAB called
Erotica (music), but the fault in that plan is there is a third but only the performer's name as blue link and not an article for the album itself. It can simply be done with a hatnote as I have done. It's a tricky one cos there is kinda not enough things listed at that DAB to make it worth making a DAB to a DAB, but just enough to warrant the DAB itself, but I think on balance this is better dealt with as a retarget and hatnote.
Si Trew (
talk)
10:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC){{R to section}}
and it is unusual to redirect to a section of a DAB, either redirect to the whole DAB or create another DAB, since that would only have two entries to the two blue link entires for the two albums and perhaps the third for the Peruvian jazzman then that really doesn't deserve a DAB so it is quite a bind. People searching for things should be able to find them and my ultimate judgement is does this make it easier or harder for someone to find? I am not saying I am always right, just that is where I make my judgement and absolutely correct to bring it for discussion.
Si Trew (
talk)
12:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 3, 2014.
I think scope should point to Scope (disambiguation) (or, perhaps, that should just be renamed to scope). Right now, scope points to Telescopic sight, which implies that's somehow the primary meaning of the word. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Confusing redirect from a non-existing village The Banner talk 22:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
{{
R from alternate spelling}}
could be put on it... but first the things need to be hatnoted properly after the page move.
Si Trew (
talk)
08:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
It's not right zoom in there's a settlement of that name. Just when I thought you were beginning to accept civil parish and village you go and do this. I've had enough. Kilmurry Ibrickane should cover the village and civil parish and the hatnote at the top to the religious parish of the same name. Dabbing it is totally unnecessary, if there isn't a hamlet or village of that name why is it labelled as such on google maps?♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
We can't have three different articles though Kilmurry, Kilmurry Ibrickane, and Kilmurry Ibrickane (Roman Catholic parish). It makes sense to at least have hamlet even if just called Kilmurry and mention the civil parish within it Kilmurray Ibrickane rather than all individually. I understand the difference between a Roman Catholic parish and a civil parish and agree that if its some sort of religious division like a diocese or sub division of that they should probably be distinguished. There must be some decent solution on this. The problem for me mainly is that if the religious parish is identical to the civil parish and there's not really much to say on either, or on the principal village of the same name it makes more sense to have it all consolidated in one article. I've just trying to install some sort of order and consistency into articles. We need to come to a solution on this as it's not fair to keep turning up here and bad mouthing what I'm doing when I'm trying to do just the opposite.♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
It does look like a townland sort of rural place on google maps I must say. But by default I think Kilmurray/Killmurrya Ibrickane should be the article on the civil parish/hamlet and the hat note to the religious parish at the top.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Refuse jurisdiction. This is a normal edit war/difference of opionion by two long-established and good faith editors, but should not have been brought to RfD. The redirect "(village)" can't be discussed while the articles are being moved about and so on, so there is no point in it being discussed at RfD. Once they settle, it can be discussed.
Si Trew (
talk)
08:50, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Delete. What's the point of this redirect? This is the English Wikipedia, not the Chinglish Wikipedia, and the Lanai article doesn't mention a place called "Ranai." I found it when looking up the place called Ranai on Google Maps, 3°55′27″N 108°23′17″E / 3.92422°N 108.38794°E, and I'll guess that similar accidents are the reason that lots of other people view it. 149.160.174.45 ( talk) 20:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Retarget to
Ranai Airport. Yes, it is both a stereotype and true that East Asians can confusing English L (back dental voiced) with English R (labial voiced), but would it help a Chinese or Japanese speaker coming to English Wikipedia or not? Since as
Ranai Airport I would imagine is just called "Ranai" in the way that "London Heathrow Airport" is just called "Heathrow" or "Budapest Ferencs Lizst repuloter" is just called "Ferihegy", or all these airports have their long oficcial names (George W. Bush International Airport Houston), etc. I think that probably people say "Ranai" to mean the airport as a shorthand or common name so that would seem to be best to retarget it there. If people from that part of the world say no, they don't, then I will happily change my opinion.
Si Trew (
talk)
09:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Retarget per above. (I remember being tempted once to buy a set of "Eyeret Priers" from a market stall simply for the label. Unfortunately, I resisted.) Peridon ( talk) 11:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Retarget to Ranai Airport, but create new Disambiguation page is better. Ranai is the name of island, mountain, and airport in the Natuna regency, Indonesia. Ranai town is also capital of the regency. At the moment only Ranai Airport article exist in english wikipedia. After we create Ranai Island and Ranai Mountain article, we can create new Disambiguation link. Also article Ranai, Indonesia is for Ranai town as the regency capital. *Annas* ( talk) 04:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Keep It is suppose to reflect historic Hawaiian pronounciation of the island!!! The L was sometimes pronounced like an R. [3] It is how Cook, Vancouver and how many early explorers wrote the name also.-- KAVEBEAR ( talk) 14:01, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Disambig per Lenticel. We can add a link to Lanai as well if we can find reliable sourcing on Ranai being a legitimate spelling or pronunciation of Lanai. — bbatsell ¿? ✍ 19:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
No clear reason given for this redirect to an obscure book; edit summary indicates it is an SEO test. ~ T P W 17:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Weak Delete Not sure what to do based on deletion of the target Nadesai ( talk) 12:58, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Delete - The target doesn't exist because of copyright infringement. Same logic for the redirect too. Nadesai ( talk) 12:48, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 March 14#Reflist
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 April 3#List of euphemisms
This is not a deletion request, but to retarget. Per some users we can't use partial titles like Thriller (album), Revolver (album) or Madonna (album) ( but as Thriller (Michael Jackson album), Revolver (Beatles album) or Madonna (Madonna album)), but such redirects can go to a page if the album is commonly known or associated to such title. The only competence for this album is Erotica (The Darling Buds album), which is not as popular or well-known as Madonna's ( WP:PTOPIC). Per precedent examples, this redirect should go to Erotica (Madonna album). © Tbhotch ™ ( en-2.5). 04:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
{{R to section}}
to a section of a dab, which is rather unusual, either it should redirect to the DAB in full rather than to a section, or the DAB should be split and the albums and songs at a a DAB called
Erotica (music), but the fault in that plan is there is a third but only the performer's name as blue link and not an article for the album itself. It can simply be done with a hatnote as I have done. It's a tricky one cos there is kinda not enough things listed at that DAB to make it worth making a DAB to a DAB, but just enough to warrant the DAB itself, but I think on balance this is better dealt with as a retarget and hatnote.
Si Trew (
talk)
10:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC){{R to section}}
and it is unusual to redirect to a section of a DAB, either redirect to the whole DAB or create another DAB, since that would only have two entries to the two blue link entires for the two albums and perhaps the third for the Peruvian jazzman then that really doesn't deserve a DAB so it is quite a bind. People searching for things should be able to find them and my ultimate judgement is does this make it easier or harder for someone to find? I am not saying I am always right, just that is where I make my judgement and absolutely correct to bring it for discussion.
Si Trew (
talk)
12:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)