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July 17
This Might Be A Wiki
- This Might Be A Wiki → They Might Be Giants ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
really funny, but only linked at the end of the article (and cited 4 times, which i will provide no input on), and not mentioned otherwise cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now. As it stands, this is a correctly targeted redirect-- while it's a tiny amount of information, it IS still SOME information that we have regarding the redirect title. However, and this is such a big however that I'm going to put it in bold, I don't believe this piece of information should stay on the article. While tmbw.net boasts that the official They Might Be Giants site links to them (in multiple places), the current site... doesn't. And not only are there no citations for the inclusion of TMBW on the Wikipedia page, I also don't believe they're a reliable source; it's in the same ballpark as WP:FANDOM-- heck, TMBW's own About page mentions that Wikia (which later became Fandom) offered to host the wiki on their servers, and they declined because they... wanted more control than Wikia offered?That said, at the end of the day, this is a discussion about the redirect, not the information being redirected to. And as it stands, the information is there-- so if someone wants to find it, this is where it is. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 ( talk) 03:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia
- Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia → Isle Madame (Nova Scotia) ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
It is not clear why this redirects here. "Port Royal" itself is ambiguous, and there's no mention of "Port Royal" in the article. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 19:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is such a place (not sure if linking google maps like that works), it just doesn't have an article at present. It had been a stub before being redirected and the corresponding mention of it in Isle Madame (Nova Scotia) was removed a few years ago. I've no idea if the place is notable in any way. older ≠ wiser 20:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Saint John Rivers
Delete because it's nonsense, as pointed out by in this summary] by User:Masato.harada Enyavar ( talk) 18:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The name of the Jane Eyre character is St John Rivers. Even if the redirect page's name were corrected, there is no reason for its existence compared with dozens of other characters of equal importance in the novel. Masato.harada ( talk) 18:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- admittedly uninformed, but i'd say weak keep as a plausible-ish spelling, as is the case with " john saint john" redirecting to the "proper" name. on another note, is there some weird technical reason the nomination was improperly formatted? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Cogsan. I don't see how this is implausible at all, especially if one heard it aurally. -
Presidentman
talk ·
contribs (
Talkback)
23:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please note that I came across it when searching for the various Saint John Rivers, and that disambiguation page already lists the character but also provides links to the more likely meanings. If we keep it, change the target to the disamb page. (And if you want properly formatted nominations, I suggest streamlining this byzantine nomination procedure.) -- Enyavar ( talk) 05:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Re "if heard aurally": the name St John is pronounced Sinjen, not Saint John, so there should be no confusion.
Masato.harada (
talk)
08:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- See, the problem is that is assuming the reader would know that's the correct pronunciation. I personally would assume it would be "Saint John" being from the U.S. Presidentman talk · contribs ( Talkback) 00:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Saint John River per Enyavar. The character is listed there, and it's a plausible search term. Tevildo ( talk) 17:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I originally created the redirect as it was a quiz bowl answer in Wikipedia:Stanford Archive answers. Cheers, Jack ( talk) 11:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Super Nintend
- Super Nintend → Super Nintendo Entertainment System ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
implausible misspelling, search function will complete it anywa cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: From my own notes in the redirect, a pirated game cartridge had used that misspelling (I don't remember which one) WhisperToMe ( talk) 20:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete not a plausible misspelling and unless the pirated cartridge is mentioned somewhere is not relevant to this discussion.-- 67.70.101.117 ( talk) 21:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete WP:RDEL #8. Extremely obscure from my searches, only finding apparent typos. Ca talk to me! 15:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:RTYPO, as it only has one error. I do not find it implausible, especially given WhisperToMe's compelling statement. If this has occurred on official material, it may be a redirect with possibilities (i.e we may cover it somewhere or someday). — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 17:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- While I see some typos as plausible I don’t see missing the O in Nintendo as likely it’s not something like a silent letter or unusual combination of letters where a typo would be more expected. Also I don’t believe the existence of a pirate cart that hasn’t appeared to be covered anywhere on Wikipedia for the 12 year period that this redirect existed as compelling whatsoever. Finally, while I may be wrong, I see keeping this because we may at a later date cover the pirate cart to be a WP:CRYSTAL issue-- 67.70.101.117 ( talk) 16:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or delete?
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- Weak keep the system is generally known as the "Super Nintendo", as such this redirect is only missing the final letter, thus a single character typo by ommision of the final, a very common form of typo -- 65.92.247.96 ( talk) 08:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Per WP:PANDORA and as an implausible typo. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 09:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Your Mileage May Vary
- Your Mileage May Vary → TV Tropes#YMMV ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
used in other places as well, though the title case might imply something more specific. retarget to your mileage may vary (which is itself a soft redirect to wiktionary), or leave as is? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Your mileage may vary. The phrase hasn't been part of the TV Tropes article since it was removed in 2021. The only proper name in an article is an unreferenced mention of a short story in The Morganville Vampires series. I think it would be more helpful to readers to direct them to the Wiktionary article instead of an obscure story. - Eureka Lott 02:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Crosswiki to Wiktionary - We don't have an article or any other information on this phrase, may as well get the searcher to its definition since we have that.
Fieari (
talk)
06:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Since Wiktionary doesn't cover the capitalized version, I'm assuming you mean wikt:your mileage may vary. Your mileage may vary is already a soft redirect to that page, so we should point the capitalized version there to eliminate the need to maintain multiple Wiktionary redirects. - Eureka Lott 17:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete We already have the lowercase version going to Wiktionary, that's pretty much all that is needed. This is redundant. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 23:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- retarget to Your mileage may vary. Searching in title case for something commonly abbreviated in allcaps is highly plausible and some methods of finding Wikipedia content are case sensitive. We gain absolutely nothing by deletion. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Karen (Pokémon)
- Karen (Pokémon) → List of Pokémon characters#Karen ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
The character is not mentioned in the target article, rendering the redirect pointless. ZFT ( talk) 04:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment While I'm not really that knowledgeable about pokemon myself, Bulbapedia says Karen is one of the Elite Four in Kanto and Johto for multiple of the games. I note that other Elite Four characters are included in the list for some, but not all regions. It seems like it would be consistent to add her (and the others of the four?) to the list, which would then warrant keeping this redirect... but I'm not really sure what the list inclusion criteria for this list are or should be. Fieari ( talk) 07:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - Karen's lack of notability in Pokémon is a bit of a Wikipedia joke. She's an example at
WP:Pokémon test (which even has the shortcut
WP:KAREN), and
was an april fools joke in 2022 based on that.
BugGhost
🦗👻
07:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting. I definitely wouldn't give her a standalone article... but I do wonder about list inclusion. It seems plausible that she has enough significance for that... but has there been any consensus on that? Any specific list inclusion criteria set? Fieari ( talk) 07:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Unless some sort of evidence of her notability comes to light that allows her to sensibly be added to the list. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 09:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Facebook, Inc. v. Amalgamated Bank
- Facebook, Inc. v. Amalgamated Bank → Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
While the Cambridge Analytica affair may be related to the case (and the current target should probably be linked in a future article at the redirect), the target article makes no mention of the SCOTUS lawsuit named in the redirect. I don't think someone would search for the lawsuit looking for information on the scandal, and so I believe this is a good candidate to return to red in hopes someone will create an article for the case. Ham tech person 02:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDLINK to encourage article creation. Fieari ( talk) 07:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Magik (film)
- Magik (film) → Benedict Cumberbatch ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
Situation I haven't run into here: This was a BLAR to an article that does not currently mention the subject, but restoring the article would go against WP:NFF, which means there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell that the article would survive AfD. I think the best approach is restore article but draftify, which is the better way to incubate something in development hell anyways. (Normally I wouldn't take something to RfD just to !vote restore, since anyone can do that, but if I were to unilaterally restore and draftify I feel like that would be backdoor deletion of the redirect.) -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed ( they|xe) 00:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Restore/Draftify per nom. You make a good case for it, and I appreciate the reasoning for going through the RfD process. Fieari ( talk) 01:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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July 17
This Might Be A Wiki
- This Might Be A Wiki → They Might Be Giants ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
really funny, but only linked at the end of the article (and cited 4 times, which i will provide no input on), and not mentioned otherwise cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now. As it stands, this is a correctly targeted redirect-- while it's a tiny amount of information, it IS still SOME information that we have regarding the redirect title. However, and this is such a big however that I'm going to put it in bold, I don't believe this piece of information should stay on the article. While tmbw.net boasts that the official They Might Be Giants site links to them (in multiple places), the current site... doesn't. And not only are there no citations for the inclusion of TMBW on the Wikipedia page, I also don't believe they're a reliable source; it's in the same ballpark as WP:FANDOM-- heck, TMBW's own About page mentions that Wikia (which later became Fandom) offered to host the wiki on their servers, and they declined because they... wanted more control than Wikia offered?That said, at the end of the day, this is a discussion about the redirect, not the information being redirected to. And as it stands, the information is there-- so if someone wants to find it, this is where it is. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 ( talk) 03:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia
- Port Royal, Richmond County, Nova Scotia → Isle Madame (Nova Scotia) ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
It is not clear why this redirects here. "Port Royal" itself is ambiguous, and there's no mention of "Port Royal" in the article. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 19:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is such a place (not sure if linking google maps like that works), it just doesn't have an article at present. It had been a stub before being redirected and the corresponding mention of it in Isle Madame (Nova Scotia) was removed a few years ago. I've no idea if the place is notable in any way. older ≠ wiser 20:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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Saint John Rivers
Delete because it's nonsense, as pointed out by in this summary] by User:Masato.harada Enyavar ( talk) 18:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The name of the Jane Eyre character is St John Rivers. Even if the redirect page's name were corrected, there is no reason for its existence compared with dozens of other characters of equal importance in the novel. Masato.harada ( talk) 18:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- admittedly uninformed, but i'd say weak keep as a plausible-ish spelling, as is the case with " john saint john" redirecting to the "proper" name. on another note, is there some weird technical reason the nomination was improperly formatted? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Cogsan. I don't see how this is implausible at all, especially if one heard it aurally. -
Presidentman
talk ·
contribs (
Talkback)
23:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please note that I came across it when searching for the various Saint John Rivers, and that disambiguation page already lists the character but also provides links to the more likely meanings. If we keep it, change the target to the disamb page. (And if you want properly formatted nominations, I suggest streamlining this byzantine nomination procedure.) -- Enyavar ( talk) 05:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Re "if heard aurally": the name St John is pronounced Sinjen, not Saint John, so there should be no confusion.
Masato.harada (
talk)
08:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- See, the problem is that is assuming the reader would know that's the correct pronunciation. I personally would assume it would be "Saint John" being from the U.S. Presidentman talk · contribs ( Talkback) 00:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Saint John River per Enyavar. The character is listed there, and it's a plausible search term. Tevildo ( talk) 17:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I originally created the redirect as it was a quiz bowl answer in Wikipedia:Stanford Archive answers. Cheers, Jack ( talk) 11:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Super Nintend
- Super Nintend → Super Nintendo Entertainment System ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
implausible misspelling, search function will complete it anywa cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: From my own notes in the redirect, a pirated game cartridge had used that misspelling (I don't remember which one) WhisperToMe ( talk) 20:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete not a plausible misspelling and unless the pirated cartridge is mentioned somewhere is not relevant to this discussion.-- 67.70.101.117 ( talk) 21:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete WP:RDEL #8. Extremely obscure from my searches, only finding apparent typos. Ca talk to me! 15:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:RTYPO, as it only has one error. I do not find it implausible, especially given WhisperToMe's compelling statement. If this has occurred on official material, it may be a redirect with possibilities (i.e we may cover it somewhere or someday). — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 17:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- While I see some typos as plausible I don’t see missing the O in Nintendo as likely it’s not something like a silent letter or unusual combination of letters where a typo would be more expected. Also I don’t believe the existence of a pirate cart that hasn’t appeared to be covered anywhere on Wikipedia for the 12 year period that this redirect existed as compelling whatsoever. Finally, while I may be wrong, I see keeping this because we may at a later date cover the pirate cart to be a WP:CRYSTAL issue-- 67.70.101.117 ( talk) 16:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or delete?
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- Weak keep the system is generally known as the "Super Nintendo", as such this redirect is only missing the final letter, thus a single character typo by ommision of the final, a very common form of typo -- 65.92.247.96 ( talk) 08:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Per WP:PANDORA and as an implausible typo. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 09:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Your Mileage May Vary
- Your Mileage May Vary → TV Tropes#YMMV ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
used in other places as well, though the title case might imply something more specific. retarget to your mileage may vary (which is itself a soft redirect to wiktionary), or leave as is? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Your mileage may vary. The phrase hasn't been part of the TV Tropes article since it was removed in 2021. The only proper name in an article is an unreferenced mention of a short story in The Morganville Vampires series. I think it would be more helpful to readers to direct them to the Wiktionary article instead of an obscure story. - Eureka Lott 02:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Crosswiki to Wiktionary - We don't have an article or any other information on this phrase, may as well get the searcher to its definition since we have that.
Fieari (
talk)
06:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Since Wiktionary doesn't cover the capitalized version, I'm assuming you mean wikt:your mileage may vary. Your mileage may vary is already a soft redirect to that page, so we should point the capitalized version there to eliminate the need to maintain multiple Wiktionary redirects. - Eureka Lott 17:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete We already have the lowercase version going to Wiktionary, that's pretty much all that is needed. This is redundant. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 23:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- retarget to Your mileage may vary. Searching in title case for something commonly abbreviated in allcaps is highly plausible and some methods of finding Wikipedia content are case sensitive. We gain absolutely nothing by deletion. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Karen (Pokémon)
- Karen (Pokémon) → List of Pokémon characters#Karen ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
The character is not mentioned in the target article, rendering the redirect pointless. ZFT ( talk) 04:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment While I'm not really that knowledgeable about pokemon myself, Bulbapedia says Karen is one of the Elite Four in Kanto and Johto for multiple of the games. I note that other Elite Four characters are included in the list for some, but not all regions. It seems like it would be consistent to add her (and the others of the four?) to the list, which would then warrant keeping this redirect... but I'm not really sure what the list inclusion criteria for this list are or should be. Fieari ( talk) 07:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - Karen's lack of notability in Pokémon is a bit of a Wikipedia joke. She's an example at
WP:Pokémon test (which even has the shortcut
WP:KAREN), and
was an april fools joke in 2022 based on that.
BugGhost
🦗👻
07:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting. I definitely wouldn't give her a standalone article... but I do wonder about list inclusion. It seems plausible that she has enough significance for that... but has there been any consensus on that? Any specific list inclusion criteria set? Fieari ( talk) 07:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Unless some sort of evidence of her notability comes to light that allows her to sensibly be added to the list. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 09:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Facebook, Inc. v. Amalgamated Bank
- Facebook, Inc. v. Amalgamated Bank → Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
While the Cambridge Analytica affair may be related to the case (and the current target should probably be linked in a future article at the redirect), the target article makes no mention of the SCOTUS lawsuit named in the redirect. I don't think someone would search for the lawsuit looking for information on the scandal, and so I believe this is a good candidate to return to red in hopes someone will create an article for the case. Ham tech person 02:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDLINK to encourage article creation. Fieari ( talk) 07:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Magik (film)
- Magik (film) → Benedict Cumberbatch ( talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/ retarget/ delete ]
Situation I haven't run into here: This was a BLAR to an article that does not currently mention the subject, but restoring the article would go against WP:NFF, which means there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell that the article would survive AfD. I think the best approach is restore article but draftify, which is the better way to incubate something in development hell anyways. (Normally I wouldn't take something to RfD just to !vote restore, since anyone can do that, but if I were to unilaterally restore and draftify I feel like that would be backdoor deletion of the redirect.) -- Tamzin[ cetacean needed ( they|xe) 00:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Restore/Draftify per nom. You make a good case for it, and I appreciate the reasoning for going through the RfD process. Fieari ( talk) 01:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)