Template editor
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I have been contributing to Wikipedia for 14 years where I have made numerous edits to templates. When I've wanted to contribute to templates that were protected I have made edit requests which have been successful. I would love to be able to make these edits without the need to provide an edit request. I understand this would be a privilege which I would not abuse. As an editor I have never engaged in edit wars, vandalised any pages or been blocked (except for when I was contributing from a proxy IP which was not due to any actions by me). I believe I fulfil all bar one of the Standard Guidelines for a template editor, the only exception being number 5 as I have not contributed to a template sandbox. I am hoping that this does not affect my request and that my history on here and my willingness to help make my application successful.
A current project I am working on: Several flag templates have been recently moved in line with the proper naming convention of templates, however these have not all been updated within other templates creating a template redirect; I would like to contribute by updating templates used on templates to avoid that redirect. Thank you. 6ii9 ( talk) 10:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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6ii9 I'm inclined to grant based on your long tenure. Couple quick questions: do you understand your technical limits and won't make changes you don't fully understand on high-use pages? (e.g. changing LUA modules you haven't thoroughly tested). When would be times that you would need to use the sandboxes in the future (or why won't there be a time)? —
xaosflux
Talk
14:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Secondary question - do you think you'll need this permission after you're done with the flag system update?
Primefac (
talk)
14:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ Primefac: Thank you for your response. I do understand my technical limits and only make changes to templates when I am sure my edit(s) will not break anything. I am familiar with using sandboxes for templates, I usually use my user sandboxes for template designs and tests to ensure what I am doing will work once implemented into real templates. Should I have a very technical edit, I will use a sandbox first before editing a template. Finally, I usually seek out these sort of scenarios, so for now it is the flag system stuff, previously it was updating country data templates to ensure they were up to date and I may find another interest afterwards. I therefore believe I will need this permission beyond the flag updates, but will understand if the permission is revoked should I not make a meaningful template edit for a long period of time. 6ii9 ( talk) 15:04, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Secondary question - do you think you'll need this permission after you're done with the flag system update?
Primefac (
talk)
14:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Non-admin comment) 6ii9 previously had a 3 month trial of this perm. Here are the template-protected templates (or modules) he edited during that time:
- SilverLocust 💬 10:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Done —
xaosflux
Talk
12:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- BrandonXLF ( t · th · c ( template space · edit requests) · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · templates created · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ( blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
I am a frequent editor and creator of templates and modules, and I have encountered several instances where having the template editor permission would be helpful. Many of my requested edits on protected templates have been performing minor visual fixes or fixing small bugs with the template's logic. For these uncontroversial edits, having to submit a request and involve another editor feels unnecessary, considering the nature of the requested edits. In other cases with more significant changes, going through the edit request process works fine for the most part, but I like to be able to avoid the process because of the backlog the edit queue can have at times and the added potential confusion added by having to request technical changes. Because of this, I'd much rather be able to have a standard discussion on template talk pages, if necessary, followed by implementing the agreed upon changes myself rather than having to request someone else to implement the changes. In the near future, I plan on exploring adding support for the new dark mode to more templates and being able to implement these changes on protected templates myself would be of great help. In the future, I would also like to use my technical knowledge of wikitext and Lua to help with processing the template edit request queue.
Another issue that the template editor permission would resolve is that several templates I've created or rewrote are now template editor protected: Template:For-multi, Template:Country name, Template:Yearly archive list/display, Template:Visible anchor/styles.css, Template:Divbox/styles.css, and Module:Outdent. As a result, I am unable to edit them, which makes several of them difficult to maintain. Per the guidelines, three templates sandboxes I've worked on include Module:Jcon/sandbox, Template:Visible anchor/sandbox/styles.css, and Template:Infobox road/sandbox and at some requested template edits are [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7].
Also, I acknowledge that I performed what ended up being (unintentionally) disruptive templates several years ago. Since then, I have learned a lot about collaborating with others on Wikipedia and being mindful of the impact template edits can have on articles across the wiki. Since then, I have been much more careful with the edits I perform, as these past experiences have shown me the dangers of not doing so. With the template edit permission, I intend to take from these past mistakes, and I will follow the best practices to ensure the template edits I perform are well-tested, agreed upon, and non-disruptive. I find that now I am very cautious with my template edits, and I always create thorough test cases (e.g. Template:Jcon/testcases) before performing changes. – BrandonXLF ( talk) 19:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Template editor
- 6ii9 ( t · th · c ( template space · edit requests) · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · templates created · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ( blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
I have been contributing to Wikipedia for 14 years where I have made numerous edits to templates. When I've wanted to contribute to templates that were protected I have made edit requests which have been successful. I would love to be able to make these edits without the need to provide an edit request. I understand this would be a privilege which I would not abuse. As an editor I have never engaged in edit wars, vandalised any pages or been blocked (except for when I was contributing from a proxy IP which was not due to any actions by me). I believe I fulfil all bar one of the Standard Guidelines for a template editor, the only exception being number 5 as I have not contributed to a template sandbox. I am hoping that this does not affect my request and that my history on here and my willingness to help make my application successful.
A current project I am working on: Several flag templates have been recently moved in line with the proper naming convention of templates, however these have not all been updated within other templates creating a template redirect; I would like to contribute by updating templates used on templates to avoid that redirect. Thank you. 6ii9 ( talk) 10:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- @
6ii9 I'm inclined to grant based on your long tenure. Couple quick questions: do you understand your technical limits and won't make changes you don't fully understand on high-use pages? (e.g. changing LUA modules you haven't thoroughly tested). When would be times that you would need to use the sandboxes in the future (or why won't there be a time)? —
xaosflux
Talk
14:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Secondary question - do you think you'll need this permission after you're done with the flag system update?
Primefac (
talk)
14:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ Primefac: Thank you for your response. I do understand my technical limits and only make changes to templates when I am sure my edit(s) will not break anything. I am familiar with using sandboxes for templates, I usually use my user sandboxes for template designs and tests to ensure what I am doing will work once implemented into real templates. Should I have a very technical edit, I will use a sandbox first before editing a template. Finally, I usually seek out these sort of scenarios, so for now it is the flag system stuff, previously it was updating country data templates to ensure they were up to date and I may find another interest afterwards. I therefore believe I will need this permission beyond the flag updates, but will understand if the permission is revoked should I not make a meaningful template edit for a long period of time. 6ii9 ( talk) 15:04, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Secondary question - do you think you'll need this permission after you're done with the flag system update?
Primefac (
talk)
14:46, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Non-admin comment) 6ii9 previously had a 3 month trial of this perm. Here are the template-protected templates (or modules) he edited during that time:
- SilverLocust 💬 10:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done —
xaosflux
Talk
12:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- BrandonXLF ( t · th · c ( template space · edit requests) · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · templates created · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs ( blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
I am a frequent editor and creator of templates and modules, and I have encountered several instances where having the template editor permission would be helpful. Many of my requested edits on protected templates have been performing minor visual fixes or fixing small bugs with the template's logic. For these uncontroversial edits, having to submit a request and involve another editor feels unnecessary, considering the nature of the requested edits. In other cases with more significant changes, going through the edit request process works fine for the most part, but I like to be able to avoid the process because of the backlog the edit queue can have at times and the added potential confusion added by having to request technical changes. Because of this, I'd much rather be able to have a standard discussion on template talk pages, if necessary, followed by implementing the agreed upon changes myself rather than having to request someone else to implement the changes. In the near future, I plan on exploring adding support for the new dark mode to more templates and being able to implement these changes on protected templates myself would be of great help. In the future, I would also like to use my technical knowledge of wikitext and Lua to help with processing the template edit request queue.
Another issue that the template editor permission would resolve is that several templates I've created or rewrote are now template editor protected: Template:For-multi, Template:Country name, Template:Yearly archive list/display, Template:Visible anchor/styles.css, Template:Divbox/styles.css, and Module:Outdent. As a result, I am unable to edit them, which makes several of them difficult to maintain. Per the guidelines, three templates sandboxes I've worked on include Module:Jcon/sandbox, Template:Visible anchor/sandbox/styles.css, and Template:Infobox road/sandbox and at some requested template edits are [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7].
Also, I acknowledge that I performed what ended up being (unintentionally) disruptive templates several years ago. Since then, I have learned a lot about collaborating with others on Wikipedia and being mindful of the impact template edits can have on articles across the wiki. Since then, I have been much more careful with the edits I perform, as these past experiences have shown me the dangers of not doing so. With the template edit permission, I intend to take from these past mistakes, and I will follow the best practices to ensure the template edits I perform are well-tested, agreed upon, and non-disruptive. I find that now I am very cautious with my template edits, and I always create thorough test cases (e.g. Template:Jcon/testcases) before performing changes. – BrandonXLF ( talk) 19:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)