- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was Deleted. Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 17:48, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
This is effectively a grudge list of statements that AmritasyaPutra took offense to by people that have been in conflicts with them. The notion that it is meant to be "humorous" is clearly disingenuous. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 03:36, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment Ah, somebody came across this page, I see. Since I am the star (villain?) of it I'd rather not vote, as AP is likely to scream COI, but if the page genuinely were humorous, it would not be chock-full of diffs from the two editors this guy has had the most disputes with. Edit summaries like "endless nonsense" and "from the looney toons" (whatever those might be) are hardly helping his case. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 15:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep It is a user page. It is tagged as humour. It is a collection of direct quotes from talk pages. Some links are even stale. There is no commentary on any contributor, it is what they have said on talk pages. Yes, it is limited to few users including the nominator, the collection itself is small too. This is a nomination after nominator's altercation with me here. This is several months old and there has been no concern raised on the talk page. -- AmritasyaPutra T 05:05, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- WP:POLEMIC says: "Material that can be viewed as attacking other editors, including the recording of perceived flaws. The compilation of factual evidence (diffs) in user subpages, for purposes such as preparing for a dispute resolution process, is permitted provided it will be used in a timely manner. Users should generally not maintain in public view negative information related to others without very good reason. Negative evidence, laundry lists of wrongs, collations of diffs and criticisms related to problems, etc., should be removed, blanked, or kept privately (i.e., not on the wiki) if they will not be imminently used, and the same once no longer needed" Nowhere does the policy say that if you tag it with the humour tag you get a free pass to store "laundry list of wrongs, a collation of diffs and criticisms related to problems". So the question is: are you going to use these diffs for anything or not? ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 05:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- That's hilarious, that really is. Do you think placing a "humor" tag on the top of a page allows you to post whatever you like? D'you really believe the page went unnoticed, when you linked it from your user-page? The users you describe as trolls, ie myself and Kautilya, have been aware of this for months; we just didn't rise to the
bait.
Vanamonde93 (
talk)
05:14, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Those are remarks I found amusing. Anyone can read "This page contains material that is kept because it is considered humorous. Please do not take it seriously." right on top of the page prominently in bold. They are links to article talk page section and not isolated diffs. I collect from what I come across, I do not scourge the Wikipedia for examples. I was not involved in all of them. Neither is there any comment from my side, nor the title or content has any commentary on any editor from me. There are 11 links to discussion and 4 editors and in 4 of them I am no way connected/involved and 3 of the links have even become stale. None of them is a highlight of personal attack by you or maunus or anyone else. It is definitely not "Very divisive or offensive material" as WP:POLEMIC conveys. -- AmritasyaPutra T 06:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- That's hilarious, that really is. Do you think placing a "humor" tag on the top of a page allows you to post whatever you like? D'you really believe the page went unnoticed, when you linked it from your user-page? The users you describe as trolls, ie myself and Kautilya, have been aware of this for months; we just didn't rise to the
bait.
Vanamonde93 (
talk)
05:14, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete- this is very clearly a list of perceived slights, and slapping a template on the top saying "Hur hur hur I'm just joking around" to protect it, is not going to work. Reyk YO! 06:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- I consider them out-of-the-discussion remarks and hence the title 'trolling', I do not see them as insults towards me(in discussions I participated in), or any other editor, I am open to you/others striking out the one which is considered insulting to any editor. There is little I can do if there is no feedback/suggestion/comment, you will find me cooperative. Like I said above: There are 11 links to discussion and 4 editors and in 4 of them I am no way connected/involved and 3 of the links have even become stale. -- AmritasyaPutra T 08:46, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete What Reyk said. Also claims of "no commentary" are dubious. The commentary you've given to the quotes in question can be seen in the links you've given. Commentary such as "lol! You are unpredictably funny and stupid!" Bosstopher ( talk) 11:57, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- It is not in this page nor linked as a diff. It is on an article talk page discussion. -- AmritasyaPutra T 06:23, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. This is only in userspace. Similar drafts are also in userspaces elsewhere like here /info/en/?search=User:Darkness_Shines#Ironic and nobody complains of it. -- Calypsomusic ( talk) 12:21, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note the owner of this page has copied the content over to another userpage, where it continues to be called "trolling." It lacks the humor tag now, but has a rather meaningless message from the creator. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 20:57, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note AP has also removed the mfd notice, contrary to the instructions on said notice. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 15:34, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep As one of the people that has had long exasperating debates of very low quality with the owner of this page, I think this infantile effort to let off some steam doesn't hurt any one. Let it be. Kautilya3 ( talk) 21:09, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per Reyk. AP is free to gather lists of grievances on their own computer to their heart's content. -- BDD ( talk) 14:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete for the same reasons Reyk brought up. Weegeerunner ( talk) 16:51, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was Deleted. Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 17:48, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
This is effectively a grudge list of statements that AmritasyaPutra took offense to by people that have been in conflicts with them. The notion that it is meant to be "humorous" is clearly disingenuous. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 03:36, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment Ah, somebody came across this page, I see. Since I am the star (villain?) of it I'd rather not vote, as AP is likely to scream COI, but if the page genuinely were humorous, it would not be chock-full of diffs from the two editors this guy has had the most disputes with. Edit summaries like "endless nonsense" and "from the looney toons" (whatever those might be) are hardly helping his case. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 15:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep It is a user page. It is tagged as humour. It is a collection of direct quotes from talk pages. Some links are even stale. There is no commentary on any contributor, it is what they have said on talk pages. Yes, it is limited to few users including the nominator, the collection itself is small too. This is a nomination after nominator's altercation with me here. This is several months old and there has been no concern raised on the talk page. -- AmritasyaPutra T 05:05, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- WP:POLEMIC says: "Material that can be viewed as attacking other editors, including the recording of perceived flaws. The compilation of factual evidence (diffs) in user subpages, for purposes such as preparing for a dispute resolution process, is permitted provided it will be used in a timely manner. Users should generally not maintain in public view negative information related to others without very good reason. Negative evidence, laundry lists of wrongs, collations of diffs and criticisms related to problems, etc., should be removed, blanked, or kept privately (i.e., not on the wiki) if they will not be imminently used, and the same once no longer needed" Nowhere does the policy say that if you tag it with the humour tag you get a free pass to store "laundry list of wrongs, a collation of diffs and criticisms related to problems". So the question is: are you going to use these diffs for anything or not? ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 05:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- That's hilarious, that really is. Do you think placing a "humor" tag on the top of a page allows you to post whatever you like? D'you really believe the page went unnoticed, when you linked it from your user-page? The users you describe as trolls, ie myself and Kautilya, have been aware of this for months; we just didn't rise to the
bait.
Vanamonde93 (
talk)
05:14, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Those are remarks I found amusing. Anyone can read "This page contains material that is kept because it is considered humorous. Please do not take it seriously." right on top of the page prominently in bold. They are links to article talk page section and not isolated diffs. I collect from what I come across, I do not scourge the Wikipedia for examples. I was not involved in all of them. Neither is there any comment from my side, nor the title or content has any commentary on any editor from me. There are 11 links to discussion and 4 editors and in 4 of them I am no way connected/involved and 3 of the links have even become stale. None of them is a highlight of personal attack by you or maunus or anyone else. It is definitely not "Very divisive or offensive material" as WP:POLEMIC conveys. -- AmritasyaPutra T 06:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- That's hilarious, that really is. Do you think placing a "humor" tag on the top of a page allows you to post whatever you like? D'you really believe the page went unnoticed, when you linked it from your user-page? The users you describe as trolls, ie myself and Kautilya, have been aware of this for months; we just didn't rise to the
bait.
Vanamonde93 (
talk)
05:14, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete- this is very clearly a list of perceived slights, and slapping a template on the top saying "Hur hur hur I'm just joking around" to protect it, is not going to work. Reyk YO! 06:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- I consider them out-of-the-discussion remarks and hence the title 'trolling', I do not see them as insults towards me(in discussions I participated in), or any other editor, I am open to you/others striking out the one which is considered insulting to any editor. There is little I can do if there is no feedback/suggestion/comment, you will find me cooperative. Like I said above: There are 11 links to discussion and 4 editors and in 4 of them I am no way connected/involved and 3 of the links have even become stale. -- AmritasyaPutra T 08:46, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete What Reyk said. Also claims of "no commentary" are dubious. The commentary you've given to the quotes in question can be seen in the links you've given. Commentary such as "lol! You are unpredictably funny and stupid!" Bosstopher ( talk) 11:57, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- It is not in this page nor linked as a diff. It is on an article talk page discussion. -- AmritasyaPutra T 06:23, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. This is only in userspace. Similar drafts are also in userspaces elsewhere like here /info/en/?search=User:Darkness_Shines#Ironic and nobody complains of it. -- Calypsomusic ( talk) 12:21, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note the owner of this page has copied the content over to another userpage, where it continues to be called "trolling." It lacks the humor tag now, but has a rather meaningless message from the creator. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 20:57, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note AP has also removed the mfd notice, contrary to the instructions on said notice. Vanamonde93 ( talk) 15:34, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep As one of the people that has had long exasperating debates of very low quality with the owner of this page, I think this infantile effort to let off some steam doesn't hurt any one. Let it be. Kautilya3 ( talk) 21:09, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per Reyk. AP is free to gather lists of grievances on their own computer to their heart's content. -- BDD ( talk) 14:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete for the same reasons Reyk brought up. Weegeerunner ( talk) 16:51, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.