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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 00:11, 6 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Portal:Television in the United Kingdom

Portal:Television in the United Kingdom ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Portal created in 2013 and essentially abandoned since day one. Considering all subpages it has collected 52 edits by 12 editors, but apart from the creator's edits they were only maintenance edits such as deletion notices. The only contributions the portal offers, apart from the list of categories, are a 2003 figure about TV usage in UK and an excerpt about a 2004 TV series. The overview is therefore very misleading and actively harmful. Nemo 11:21, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply

There is a pattern of television-by-country portals being severely neglected (see e.g. MFD:Portal:Television in the United States and MFD:Portal:Television in Canada), and this one is no exception to the rule. Abandoned portals like this not only waste the time of readers, they actively mislead readers by displaying outdated info. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:46, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Television and Portal:United Kingdom), without creating duplicate entries. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:48, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Television in the United Kingdom shows 4 articles, all originated in 2013, no edits since 2013. Presumably British television has continued and had programming changes in the past six years.
  • Since the Portal Guidelines have been downgraded to the status of an information page and we have no real portal guidelines, we should use common sense, which is discussed in Wikipedia in the essay section Use Common Sense and in the article common sense. The portal guidelines were an effort to codify common sense about portals, and we should still use common sense. A portal that is only seldom viewed, less than 25 average views per day, does not seem to provide much value. A portal that is not actively being maintained (preferably by at least two editors to provide backup), especially one that has not been maintained for several years, especially in a subject area that is evolving or changing, does not provide current value. A portal that has only a small set of articles does not serve any purpose as a navigation tool and is not consistent with a broad subject area. This portal has no maintenance and low viewing. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:14, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per all above, per WP:TNT, and per the fact there is no good reason to keep portals in this state. -Crossroads- ( talk) 19:22, 29 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Intersection portal ( Portal:TelevisionPortal:United Kingdom). Subportals based in Intersections are per se a narrow topic. Expanding a subportal based on an Intersection topic is to include redundant material with both parent portals. Guilherme Burn ( talk) 23:17, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 00:11, 6 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Portal:Television in the United Kingdom

Portal:Television in the United Kingdom ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Portal created in 2013 and essentially abandoned since day one. Considering all subpages it has collected 52 edits by 12 editors, but apart from the creator's edits they were only maintenance edits such as deletion notices. The only contributions the portal offers, apart from the list of categories, are a 2003 figure about TV usage in UK and an excerpt about a 2004 TV series. The overview is therefore very misleading and actively harmful. Nemo 11:21, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply

There is a pattern of television-by-country portals being severely neglected (see e.g. MFD:Portal:Television in the United States and MFD:Portal:Television in Canada), and this one is no exception to the rule. Abandoned portals like this not only waste the time of readers, they actively mislead readers by displaying outdated info. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:46, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Television and Portal:United Kingdom), without creating duplicate entries. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:48, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Television in the United Kingdom shows 4 articles, all originated in 2013, no edits since 2013. Presumably British television has continued and had programming changes in the past six years.
  • Since the Portal Guidelines have been downgraded to the status of an information page and we have no real portal guidelines, we should use common sense, which is discussed in Wikipedia in the essay section Use Common Sense and in the article common sense. The portal guidelines were an effort to codify common sense about portals, and we should still use common sense. A portal that is only seldom viewed, less than 25 average views per day, does not seem to provide much value. A portal that is not actively being maintained (preferably by at least two editors to provide backup), especially one that has not been maintained for several years, especially in a subject area that is evolving or changing, does not provide current value. A portal that has only a small set of articles does not serve any purpose as a navigation tool and is not consistent with a broad subject area. This portal has no maintenance and low viewing. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:14, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per all above, per WP:TNT, and per the fact there is no good reason to keep portals in this state. -Crossroads- ( talk) 19:22, 29 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Intersection portal ( Portal:TelevisionPortal:United Kingdom). Subportals based in Intersections are per se a narrow topic. Expanding a subportal based on an Intersection topic is to include redundant material with both parent portals. Guilherme Burn ( talk) 23:17, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.



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