The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Redirect to Portal:The Sims. If there is a dispute over the name I suggest it be brought up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sims, and let a consensus form. Redirect temporarily protected to enforce this closure. — xaosflux ^Talk 02:45, 19 June 2008 (UTC) reply

Portal:Sims

Just a block of colour! There is nothing! It's basically a few coloured boxes and redlinks. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 15:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Procedural comment I earlier declined a speedy request on this; see Portal talk:Sims for the reasons. Abstaining from this MFD as I don't know enough to say whether this portal will be viable. –  iride scent 16:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 ( talk) 19:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Speedy Keep - too soon for the MfD to happen. The portal was only started on 1st June and is still {{ underconstruction}} from what I can see. I would suggest polite enquiries at WT:SIMS would be the first approach before placing the portal for MfD. Of course, if nothing has changed after a month and you've made best efforts to contact the project without success, feel free to relist. Gazimoff ^Write _Read 20:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Comment - Keep the speedy keep, but the new reason is to give WP:SIMS time to build concensus with their plans for the two portals before MfD or Speedy G6. Gazimoff ^Write _Read 10:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Speedy Keep - I agree that this portal just recently became active. Give the editor(s) some time to create the page. -- Pinkkeith ( talk) 20:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Keep, recently created, and should be allowed a reasonable chance to grow. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Regardless of how new the portal is, I don't think a portal should be created about this subject for a long while. According to the statistics at Wikipedia:Wikiroject Sims, there are 47 total articles for this topic. There is not a single article above B-class. According to the guidelines for portals, a portal should be build around topics with significant status (good, A-class, or featured articles). I say delete this and focus on building the articles up first. When 3, 4, 5 articles reach good or featured status, then build a portal. Metros ( talk) 22:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Did you ever consider that the portal will help draw more attention to the articles so they can be improved? :) — _Maggot ^Syn 02:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Keep per Gazimoff. Re-nominate it if and when it is not improved or expanded soon. -- Mizu onna sango15/ 水女珊瑚15 23:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC) reply

*Speedy keep. June first is when this was created so this MfD is way too soon. 47 articles and a project is enough to justify a portal. Give this time to grow. — _Maggot ^Syn 02:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Comment. I'd like to add that this should also be placed back into the under construction category once this is closed. — _Maggot ^Syn 02:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Comment - I'm not going to !vote as I made it, but can I say that I am still building it - I currently have GCSE exams, and so am very busy to do anything on wiki. Thanks, B G 7even 09:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Keep It may take a while to create a portal, this one has just been recently created. I agree that the Sim articles need to be improved as a priority, and I'd say that a portal is a luxury. But in the same time, it's not that difficult to make a decent portal even with a few good articles (with random portal components and so on). Of course, if it's in the same state in a few months from here, it should be brought back here. Cenarium (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply

  Redirect per below Cenarium (talk) 12:37, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Redirect to Portal:The Sims- better portal. -- OZ OO ( Whaddya think, sirs?) 19:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Merge with the other sims portal. Electrical ^{Vandilize Me} 19:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Redirect - No need for this portal, since its already redundant to Portal:The Sims. The other being well constructed in comparison to this. Rudget ( Help?) 09:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Redirect to Portal:the Sims, no content worth salvaging and pointless to have two portals for the same topic. nancy ^(talk) 11:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Redirect (switched). Didn't realize there was another portal. — _Maggot ^Syn 12:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Comment - Note - this portal was created first. The other also has formatting issues. Also, "The Sims" has a small scope (only The Sims 1, 2, 3 and the expansion packs, whereas the other can have anything Simsish. - B G 7even 14:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Actually, the first portal was created April 6th, and you saw fit to request a non-controversial deletion without obtaining consensus from the Sims WikiProject. Frankly, I'm seeing a lot of ownership issues here, and I think you really ought to work with the Sims WikiProject rather than unilaterally. Redirect, and if you think the original portal which you managed to have speedied should widen its scope, then obtain consensus for that. It's already nearly complete and this portal is nothing but an empty husk. xenocidic ( talk) 14:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• I'd possibly recommend a WP:POSTPONE or No Consensus close on this one while the Sims wikiproject works out what they want to do with these two portals, before raising another MfD or possibly a speedy G6 (as long as agreement is demonstrated by WP:SIMS). Gazimoff ^Write _Read 10:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply

• Redirect The Sims is a fairly popular video game(I believe), so a portal for the Sims has a chance to be successful. However, since we already have an established portal for this game, we should re-direct this one to Portal:The Sims. Its redundant to keep to portals with the same exact purpose.-- SJP ( talk) 22:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Redirect and Protect I think we should redirect it to Portal:The Sims and then protect the redirect. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 15:26, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Status Update Just so people know, as of 19:09, 16 June 2008 (UTC), there are 3 for keep, 1 for delete, and 7 for redirect (to Portal:The Sims). StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 19:09, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
  • We don't tally votes here. This is a discussion, not a vote. Metros ( talk) 19:13, 16 June 2008 (UTC) reply
• Redirect to Portal:The Sims, per the reasons above. There's no reason to have two portals on the same topic, and that one's much better than this one. Terraxos ( talk) 23:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.