Voting period ends on 26 Jan 2012 at 06:37:31 (UTC)
- Reason
- Good quality, well composed image. Strong encyclopedic value (EV). Meshes perfectly with the draft-dodger sub-sections of the Mark Satin biography on Wikipedia.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Mark Satin
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/War
- Creator
- Laura Jones
- Support as nominator - I was there, and this photo beautifully evokes the feel of that place and time - the dank and crowded and bunker-like "inner" counseling room at the anti-draft office in the middle of Toronto, the intense young people trying to be calm and rational but really feeling bewildered and alone. It provides a rare peek into a vastly undereported-upon episode in American military (and civilian) history. - Babel41 ( talk) 06:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Conditional Support Please make the article caption and image caption reflect which person in the shot is Mark Satin. JJ Harrison ( talk) 10:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Done: Good idea. Have now done so (a) here, (b) in the Wikipedia article caption, and (c) in the Wikimedia description. - Babel41 ( talk) 20:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support Not wonderful technically (the upper edge of the photo seems a bit hazy), but more than made up for by an excellent composition and strong EV. Nick-D ( talk) 10:19, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: I question the EV. Is Mark Satin really the subject of this photograph? Spikebrennan ( talk) 19:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. EV is strong, I'd say, in response to Spikebrennan--the tension in the photograph is between Satin and the mustachioed man opposite. This is a good example of documentary photography. Chick Bowen 03:14, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support per Chick Bowen -- Guerillero | My Talk 07:35, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose I appreciate the composition, and the mood of the photograph, but technically I don't think it's at a high enough standard, even for 1967. Aaadddaaammm ( talk) 15:41, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support as creator: This was one of the first photos that I took after arriving in Toronto from the Washington, D.C area. John Phillips (just at the edge of the photo) and I were newly married (I was age 19 and John was 21. We were seeking information about immigrating to Canada. Had Cancer not taken John from us, I think he would have liked to have seen the photo used.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurawrites ( talk • contribs) 03:06, 24 January 2012 (UTC)}}
- Note from nominator: I e-mailed Laura Jones in Toronto to let her know that I put her photo up here, and she immediately responded with the support statement above. She is not an experienced Wikipedia user - I had to splice her statement from out of the photo caption and move it to this spot. I then spliced in her username from out of this photo's history page. Btw, Laura is a professional photographer - within a year of emigrating to Canada, she and John founded Toronto's Baldwin Street Gallery of photography, which they ran for many decades. - Babel41 ( talk) 04:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- "Support" A powerful image. I feel the intensity of that moment. Trying for safety, for right, for life.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.116.140.129 ( talk • contribs) 06:27, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. This photo is a wonderful time capsule. I wasn't there and yet you feel like that 6th person sitting in the room. Powerful and spontaneous.-- Suzannealesha ( talk) 04:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. EV. I thought I knew about that journey, but wasn't aware of the counseling given to these young men. It certainly shows the tension as they faced making an enormous and painful decision to leave their country - in John's case, and many others, because of their principles or religious beliefs (some draft boards made it very difficult to get conscientious objector status). Lindakp ( talk) 18:26, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support good composition and EV. -- Elekhh ( talk) 19:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support per Elekhh. Spongie555 ( talk) 23:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Promoted File:Draft dodgers being counseled 1967.jpg -- Makeemlighter ( talk) 22:31, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Voting period ends on 26 Jan 2012 at 06:37:31 (UTC)
- Reason
- Good quality, well composed image. Strong encyclopedic value (EV). Meshes perfectly with the draft-dodger sub-sections of the Mark Satin biography on Wikipedia.
- Articles in which this image appears
- Mark Satin
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/War
- Creator
- Laura Jones
- Support as nominator - I was there, and this photo beautifully evokes the feel of that place and time - the dank and crowded and bunker-like "inner" counseling room at the anti-draft office in the middle of Toronto, the intense young people trying to be calm and rational but really feeling bewildered and alone. It provides a rare peek into a vastly undereported-upon episode in American military (and civilian) history. - Babel41 ( talk) 06:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Conditional Support Please make the article caption and image caption reflect which person in the shot is Mark Satin. JJ Harrison ( talk) 10:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Done: Good idea. Have now done so (a) here, (b) in the Wikipedia article caption, and (c) in the Wikimedia description. - Babel41 ( talk) 20:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support Not wonderful technically (the upper edge of the photo seems a bit hazy), but more than made up for by an excellent composition and strong EV. Nick-D ( talk) 10:19, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: I question the EV. Is Mark Satin really the subject of this photograph? Spikebrennan ( talk) 19:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. EV is strong, I'd say, in response to Spikebrennan--the tension in the photograph is between Satin and the mustachioed man opposite. This is a good example of documentary photography. Chick Bowen 03:14, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support per Chick Bowen -- Guerillero | My Talk 07:35, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose I appreciate the composition, and the mood of the photograph, but technically I don't think it's at a high enough standard, even for 1967. Aaadddaaammm ( talk) 15:41, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support as creator: This was one of the first photos that I took after arriving in Toronto from the Washington, D.C area. John Phillips (just at the edge of the photo) and I were newly married (I was age 19 and John was 21. We were seeking information about immigrating to Canada. Had Cancer not taken John from us, I think he would have liked to have seen the photo used.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurawrites ( talk • contribs) 03:06, 24 January 2012 (UTC)}}
- Note from nominator: I e-mailed Laura Jones in Toronto to let her know that I put her photo up here, and she immediately responded with the support statement above. She is not an experienced Wikipedia user - I had to splice her statement from out of the photo caption and move it to this spot. I then spliced in her username from out of this photo's history page. Btw, Laura is a professional photographer - within a year of emigrating to Canada, she and John founded Toronto's Baldwin Street Gallery of photography, which they ran for many decades. - Babel41 ( talk) 04:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- "Support" A powerful image. I feel the intensity of that moment. Trying for safety, for right, for life.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.116.140.129 ( talk • contribs) 06:27, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. This photo is a wonderful time capsule. I wasn't there and yet you feel like that 6th person sitting in the room. Powerful and spontaneous.-- Suzannealesha ( talk) 04:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. EV. I thought I knew about that journey, but wasn't aware of the counseling given to these young men. It certainly shows the tension as they faced making an enormous and painful decision to leave their country - in John's case, and many others, because of their principles or religious beliefs (some draft boards made it very difficult to get conscientious objector status). Lindakp ( talk) 18:26, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support good composition and EV. -- Elekhh ( talk) 19:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support per Elekhh. Spongie555 ( talk) 23:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Promoted File:Draft dodgers being counseled 1967.jpg -- Makeemlighter ( talk) 22:31, 27 January 2012 (UTC)