I am nominating this for featured list because this is a comprehensive list of equipment for the discipline of
rock climbing. While individual elements of rock climbing equipment will change/evolve, the essence is quite stable. Rock climbing is now a new Olympic Sport, so I think this area will get even more attention in the future. I had proposed it as a GA but the recommendation was that the article was more of a list, which is correct, and that it would be a good suggestion as an FL per
Talk:Rock-climbing equipment/GA1. thank you.
Aszx5000 (
talk)
11:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Comments by RunningTiger123
This review will take me a little while – feel free to ping me if I go more than a few days without following up.
Images need alt text
Done.
"And finally" → "Finally,"
Done.
The lead lists modern devices with the older devices they replaced – where is this information supported in the body? For instance, I see no mention of chockstones after the lead.
Done., I have mentioned
chockstones in the body, where they were replaced by
nuts.
Not technically wrong, but the list has a tendency to overuse parentheses; some of them can be reworked
Example: Under Type of climbing, "and its X variant" doesn't need parentheses
Done., hopefully that is better now.
Another example: The second paragraph of Ropes (starting with "Some climbers will use...") has 4 sets of parentheses in one sentence. This ends up feeling really choppy.
Done., and agree, hopefully better now.
Per
MOS:ACRO1STUSE, write out acronyms where they first appear: UIAA, CEN, OSHA, maybe CE marking?
Delighted that you are willing to help @
RunningTiger123. This is (clearly) my first attempt at Featured article status. I have a few GAs under my belt and I think I am writing at a reasonable GA standard, but have little concept of FA stardard, but if you are up for it, I would love to learn and happy to spend time on this with you at whatever pace you prefer. thanks again :)
Aszx5000 (
talk)
13:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)reply
More comments:
"European European Committee for Standardization" – redundant
Done.
"e.g. the asymmetric/offset D-shape is the most common" – misuse of "e.g."
Done.
"e.g." means "for example" – if you substitute "for example" in place of "e.g." and it doesn't make sense, you're using the wrong phrase
understand thanks,
"(and materials used)" – no need for parentheses
Done.
"e.g. they require little in the way of gear-carrying loops" – another misuse of "e.g."
Done.
"e.g. to fit around heaving winter clothing" – same thing
Done.
Link
Petzl and
Wild Country at first occurrence (as well as any other companies)
Done.
First paragraph under Belay devices is unsourced
Done.
"e.g. a static rope that is hanging from a fixed anchor" – another "e.g."
Done.
"Petzel Traxion" – typo for Petzl
Done.
"Petzel Micro Traxion, and Camp Lift" – no comma needed, also same typo?
Done.
"SCLDs" – should be SLCDs? (occurs twice)
Done.
"like a Hex" – use lowercase for consistency
Done.
Don't hyphenate "bolt-hangers" for consistency
Done.
"stands one on aider" – I think this should be "stands on one aider"?
Done.
"Rock climbing hammers are mainly used..." – bullet point doesn't follow the same opening format as all of the others
Done.
A lot of bullet points under Miscellaneous equipment are unsourced
Done., I also added one extra item, the Knee pad, which is a commonly used piece of equipment
"is used by all rock climbers" – all is a strong word, so it either needs to be clearly sourced or removed
Done., changed to "is very popular amongst rock climbers"
@
RunningTiger123, thanks for those comments. I have made all of the changes but I am not sure I understand the last one re
WP:IABOT? My understanding is that that bot runs automatically, or am I meant to run it? thanks.
Aszx5000 (
talk)
10:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)reply
You can run IABot on demand
here – it's not required but it can be nice to include. Also, I think you missed the "e.g. a static rope..." comment above, but I don't think it's worth waiting to support over that.
RunningTiger123 (
talk)
01:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Sorry about that, have fixed the "static rope" now, and I will run the IAB. Thanks so much for your help and comments on this.
Aszx5000 (
talk)
09:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I am nominating this for featured list because this is a comprehensive list of equipment for the discipline of
rock climbing. While individual elements of rock climbing equipment will change/evolve, the essence is quite stable. Rock climbing is now a new Olympic Sport, so I think this area will get even more attention in the future. I had proposed it as a GA but the recommendation was that the article was more of a list, which is correct, and that it would be a good suggestion as an FL per
Talk:Rock-climbing equipment/GA1. thank you.
Aszx5000 (
talk)
11:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Comments by RunningTiger123
This review will take me a little while – feel free to ping me if I go more than a few days without following up.
Images need alt text
Done.
"And finally" → "Finally,"
Done.
The lead lists modern devices with the older devices they replaced – where is this information supported in the body? For instance, I see no mention of chockstones after the lead.
Done., I have mentioned
chockstones in the body, where they were replaced by
nuts.
Not technically wrong, but the list has a tendency to overuse parentheses; some of them can be reworked
Example: Under Type of climbing, "and its X variant" doesn't need parentheses
Done., hopefully that is better now.
Another example: The second paragraph of Ropes (starting with "Some climbers will use...") has 4 sets of parentheses in one sentence. This ends up feeling really choppy.
Done., and agree, hopefully better now.
Per
MOS:ACRO1STUSE, write out acronyms where they first appear: UIAA, CEN, OSHA, maybe CE marking?
Delighted that you are willing to help @
RunningTiger123. This is (clearly) my first attempt at Featured article status. I have a few GAs under my belt and I think I am writing at a reasonable GA standard, but have little concept of FA stardard, but if you are up for it, I would love to learn and happy to spend time on this with you at whatever pace you prefer. thanks again :)
Aszx5000 (
talk)
13:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)reply
More comments:
"European European Committee for Standardization" – redundant
Done.
"e.g. the asymmetric/offset D-shape is the most common" – misuse of "e.g."
Done.
"e.g." means "for example" – if you substitute "for example" in place of "e.g." and it doesn't make sense, you're using the wrong phrase
understand thanks,
"(and materials used)" – no need for parentheses
Done.
"e.g. they require little in the way of gear-carrying loops" – another misuse of "e.g."
Done.
"e.g. to fit around heaving winter clothing" – same thing
Done.
Link
Petzl and
Wild Country at first occurrence (as well as any other companies)
Done.
First paragraph under Belay devices is unsourced
Done.
"e.g. a static rope that is hanging from a fixed anchor" – another "e.g."
Done.
"Petzel Traxion" – typo for Petzl
Done.
"Petzel Micro Traxion, and Camp Lift" – no comma needed, also same typo?
Done.
"SCLDs" – should be SLCDs? (occurs twice)
Done.
"like a Hex" – use lowercase for consistency
Done.
Don't hyphenate "bolt-hangers" for consistency
Done.
"stands one on aider" – I think this should be "stands on one aider"?
Done.
"Rock climbing hammers are mainly used..." – bullet point doesn't follow the same opening format as all of the others
Done.
A lot of bullet points under Miscellaneous equipment are unsourced
Done., I also added one extra item, the Knee pad, which is a commonly used piece of equipment
"is used by all rock climbers" – all is a strong word, so it either needs to be clearly sourced or removed
Done., changed to "is very popular amongst rock climbers"
@
RunningTiger123, thanks for those comments. I have made all of the changes but I am not sure I understand the last one re
WP:IABOT? My understanding is that that bot runs automatically, or am I meant to run it? thanks.
Aszx5000 (
talk)
10:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)reply
You can run IABot on demand
here – it's not required but it can be nice to include. Also, I think you missed the "e.g. a static rope..." comment above, but I don't think it's worth waiting to support over that.
RunningTiger123 (
talk)
01:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Sorry about that, have fixed the "static rope" now, and I will run the IAB. Thanks so much for your help and comments on this.
Aszx5000 (
talk)
09:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)reply