Comment - A couple of things. The Clements book referred to in the taxonomy section does not appear in references, I would have thought this is necessary. Secondly is there a specific order the bird species are listed within the different sections? If not, is there a suitable taxonomic order or should they be alphabetical? Finally it is not exceptionally clear (for people with no prior knowledge) that not all species fall into one of the groupings highlighted (Accidental, Endemic etc.) unless they add up the percentages. Could a sentence be added along the lines that birds not in one of the groups are resident of Puerto Rica for atleast some of the year etc. This last point may be nitpicking, people may understand it with no problem. -
Suicidalhamster 18:20, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
I did not use the Clements's book directly. I used a website (first reference) that followed Clements's taxonomy.
Birds are listed in the taxonomic order used by Clements.
I will consider adding either a note or a sentence regarding your last comment.
Joelito (
talk) 18:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Doesn't meet 2c 2 - "Accurate". The
WP:LEAD needs to be expanded and references need to be improved. --Ardenn 19:04, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Ardenn if you had at least read the criteria for FLC and not opposed in bad faith to my recent oppose of your feature article candidate
Ice Storm of 1998 you would have noticed that 2c is a terminology used in FAC. Criteria in feature lists do not have letters. :)
Joelito (
talk) 19:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
My thinking your lead isn't long enough, and asking for references to be improved is bad faith? Tisk, tisk. You appear to be an admin, you should know to
assume good faith. Ardenn 19:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
So please explain where do you think references are needed? And what more do you think I can include in the lead? Also remeber that the criteria for Featured lists is different from featured articles.Take a look at the lead and refernces of other Featured Lists.
Joelito (
talk) 19:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
I think the lead is too short, it's only a paragraph, and
citing sources for the various birds. Now that I look at it closer, your wikified headers violate the
manual of style as well. Ardenn 19:24, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
I will remove the wikified headers.
Joelito (
talk) 19:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
I have removed the wikilinks. As for your original complaint, Accuracy, could you point put where it is not accurate and needs additional referencing?
Joelito (
talk) 19:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment - A couple of things. The Clements book referred to in the taxonomy section does not appear in references, I would have thought this is necessary. Secondly is there a specific order the bird species are listed within the different sections? If not, is there a suitable taxonomic order or should they be alphabetical? Finally it is not exceptionally clear (for people with no prior knowledge) that not all species fall into one of the groupings highlighted (Accidental, Endemic etc.) unless they add up the percentages. Could a sentence be added along the lines that birds not in one of the groups are resident of Puerto Rica for atleast some of the year etc. This last point may be nitpicking, people may understand it with no problem. -
Suicidalhamster 18:20, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
I did not use the Clements's book directly. I used a website (first reference) that followed Clements's taxonomy.
Birds are listed in the taxonomic order used by Clements.
I will consider adding either a note or a sentence regarding your last comment.
Joelito (
talk) 18:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Doesn't meet 2c 2 - "Accurate". The
WP:LEAD needs to be expanded and references need to be improved. --Ardenn 19:04, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Ardenn if you had at least read the criteria for FLC and not opposed in bad faith to my recent oppose of your feature article candidate
Ice Storm of 1998 you would have noticed that 2c is a terminology used in FAC. Criteria in feature lists do not have letters. :)
Joelito (
talk) 19:10, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
My thinking your lead isn't long enough, and asking for references to be improved is bad faith? Tisk, tisk. You appear to be an admin, you should know to
assume good faith. Ardenn 19:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
So please explain where do you think references are needed? And what more do you think I can include in the lead? Also remeber that the criteria for Featured lists is different from featured articles.Take a look at the lead and refernces of other Featured Lists.
Joelito (
talk) 19:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
I think the lead is too short, it's only a paragraph, and
citing sources for the various birds. Now that I look at it closer, your wikified headers violate the
manual of style as well. Ardenn 19:24, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
I will remove the wikified headers.
Joelito (
talk) 19:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply
I have removed the wikilinks. As for your original complaint, Accuracy, could you point put where it is not accurate and needs additional referencing?
Joelito (
talk) 19:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)reply