This is the third Inkigayo list that I am nominating to become a featured list. The format of this list is similar to the previous two lists. Appreciate any feedback. --
EN-Jungwon16:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Comments
MPGuy2824
"since July, 2016" remove the comma.
Does Korea use the mdy system of writing dates?
Their singles "Knock Knock", "Signal" and "Likey" ranked number one for three weeks each and achieved a triple crowns in 2017, while "Heart Shaker" went on to achieve a triple crown the following year.
You can remove the row stating that '"—" denotes an episode did not air that week.' since this info appears in the 'key' table. Alternatively, you can make sure that it always sorts at the bottom.
'Prior to her official debut, Minseo took her first award win for "Yes".' This is begging for more explanation.
I can't find anything specific in the MOS for dates in Korea-related articles. The date formatting seems consistent throughout the article, so ok.
Minseo's pre-debut debut: If you can manage to put the explanation in a few words and incorporate it in that the sentence, it would be great. -
MPGuy2824 (
talk)
03:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Note: Korea uses YMD (e.g. 2024년 6월 6일 -> 2024 June 6). There is no established preference in the English language in Korea for MDY or DMY, although you'll often see MDY because Korea leans closer to the American side of the Anglosphere.
My understanding is that we follow
MOS:DATERET for articles without strong
MOS:DATETIES (e.g. if the article is about UK–Korea ties then maybe DMY is more appropriate?). Whichever style the primary contributer to the article uses, we follow.
104.232.119.107 (
talk)
22:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)reply
@
MPGuy2824 I couldn't think of a good way to put an explanation there so I removed the mention of Minseo's pre-debut. I don't think it's that relevant to this list so it shouldn't become a big issue. Thanks for the review and sorry for taking so long to reply. --
EN-Jungwon18:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
@
MPGuy2824, in the
Music Bank 2023 FLC you suggested that the date is the unique cell of every row and should be made into the header cell, instead of the episode number. I was thinking about it and wondered if something
like this would be acceptable to make the column sort correctly. --
EN-Jungwon10:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)reply
IMO somebody looking at the wikicode would be able to understand why those particular numbers are used. So, yes, your linked diff would be acceptable. Visually, (and for screen readers) the emdashes being the header cell in rows still seems weird to me. -
MPGuy2824 (
talk)
11:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Dank
Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly
AGF on sourcing.
1. I did some minor copyediting; feel free to revert. I checked sorting on all sortable nonnumeric columns and sampled the links in the table.
2. The lead meets
WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
3b. The
UPSD tool isn't indicating any significant problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, and it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find).
4. It is navigable.
5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
6. It is stable.
Since all the sources are in Korean, which I can't read, I'll have to wait for a source review, but I'm expecting to support at that point. Well done. - Dank (
push to talk)
20:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Image review from Staraction
All images have alt text except for the one with
Sunmi.
This is the third Inkigayo list that I am nominating to become a featured list. The format of this list is similar to the previous two lists. Appreciate any feedback. --
EN-Jungwon16:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Comments
MPGuy2824
"since July, 2016" remove the comma.
Does Korea use the mdy system of writing dates?
Their singles "Knock Knock", "Signal" and "Likey" ranked number one for three weeks each and achieved a triple crowns in 2017, while "Heart Shaker" went on to achieve a triple crown the following year.
You can remove the row stating that '"—" denotes an episode did not air that week.' since this info appears in the 'key' table. Alternatively, you can make sure that it always sorts at the bottom.
'Prior to her official debut, Minseo took her first award win for "Yes".' This is begging for more explanation.
I can't find anything specific in the MOS for dates in Korea-related articles. The date formatting seems consistent throughout the article, so ok.
Minseo's pre-debut debut: If you can manage to put the explanation in a few words and incorporate it in that the sentence, it would be great. -
MPGuy2824 (
talk)
03:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Note: Korea uses YMD (e.g. 2024년 6월 6일 -> 2024 June 6). There is no established preference in the English language in Korea for MDY or DMY, although you'll often see MDY because Korea leans closer to the American side of the Anglosphere.
My understanding is that we follow
MOS:DATERET for articles without strong
MOS:DATETIES (e.g. if the article is about UK–Korea ties then maybe DMY is more appropriate?). Whichever style the primary contributer to the article uses, we follow.
104.232.119.107 (
talk)
22:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)reply
@
MPGuy2824 I couldn't think of a good way to put an explanation there so I removed the mention of Minseo's pre-debut. I don't think it's that relevant to this list so it shouldn't become a big issue. Thanks for the review and sorry for taking so long to reply. --
EN-Jungwon18:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
@
MPGuy2824, in the
Music Bank 2023 FLC you suggested that the date is the unique cell of every row and should be made into the header cell, instead of the episode number. I was thinking about it and wondered if something
like this would be acceptable to make the column sort correctly. --
EN-Jungwon10:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)reply
IMO somebody looking at the wikicode would be able to understand why those particular numbers are used. So, yes, your linked diff would be acceptable. Visually, (and for screen readers) the emdashes being the header cell in rows still seems weird to me. -
MPGuy2824 (
talk)
11:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Dank
Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly
AGF on sourcing.
1. I did some minor copyediting; feel free to revert. I checked sorting on all sortable nonnumeric columns and sampled the links in the table.
2. The lead meets
WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
3b. The
UPSD tool isn't indicating any significant problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, and it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find).
4. It is navigable.
5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
6. It is stable.
Since all the sources are in Korean, which I can't read, I'll have to wait for a source review, but I'm expecting to support at that point. Well done. - Dank (
push to talk)
20:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Image review from Staraction
All images have alt text except for the one with
Sunmi.