The list was promoted by Giants2008 23:07, 29 November 2015 [1].
Lionel Barrymore on stage, screen and radio ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Lionel Barrymore was an superb actor whose career ran between 1893 and his death in 1954. Part of America's "Royal Family" of actors, Barrymore is perhaps best remembered internationally for his appearance in It's a Wonderful Life, but some in the US also have fond reminiscences of his annual broadcasts in A Christmas Carol. This list has been updated and re-worked, as it was out of place there and not a full reflection of his work. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 21:44, 6 November 2015 (UTC) reply
I would remove the reference to America's "Royal Family" from the first paragraph. It is not even mentioned in the Lionel Barrymore article. Instead, I suggest you say " Barrymore family of actors." You might consider moving the "Royal Family" nickname and the references to the Lionel Barrymore article.
You mention some biographical information that does not appear in the Lionel Barrymore article. For example, you have a lot more information about Barrymore's feelings about acting and the reasons for his move to and from Paris. It seems very strange to me that the List article should spend considerable ink on this when it is barely mentioned in the main article. I really think you need to move much of the bio information to the main article. Certainly, there should not be anything in your introduction that is *not* in the main ariticle. INSTEAD, the introduction to this article needs a paragraph identifying Barrymore's best-known/most important roles and/or most important directing achievements, and also should state the number of films he acted in. Also, perhaps mention that Grand Hotel and You Can't Take It With You won Oscars for Best Picture.
You need to identify what roles he played in his stage appearances. His IBDB page identifies some that you are missing: http://ibdb.com/Person/View/31143. Same with the film roles. I see that the Wikipedia articles on the blue-linked films show what roles he played, so you should be able to fill in these at least.
The Lionel Barrymore article and yours disagree about why he was confined to a wheelchair and mentions an addiction to painkillers. If your sources are clearly better than the ones in the Lionel Barrymore article, please fix it. If not, please clarify the filmography article. In general, you need to review the Lionel Barrymore article and make sure that you make any necessary edits in it to at least harmonize with the filmography, making sure that neither article has any information that the best sources consider to be clearly wrong.
The filmography at the bottom of the Lionel Barrymore article is too long. It should be reduced to the most important items.
I know that you are not responsible for the Lionel Barrymore article, which is only about C-class, but if we are going to have a Featured List on him, the two articles should at least be harmonized so that they are not inconsistent; it seems like you are in a good position to do this, since you know the sources. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers ( talk) 18:53, 7 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Support. I am now pretty happy with the intro to this, but I still think you should add a couple more mentions of which film roles were Barrymore's most famous ones. Young Dr. Kildare? The Copperhead? Wildfire? Sadie Thompson? Rasputin and the Empress? Maybe just name 2 or 3 or 4 of his most famous ones. My support does not depend on you adding this. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 21:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Resolved comments from Jimknut ( talk) 00:47, 17 November 2015 (UTC) reply |
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Radio broadcasts
Television broadcast
These are HUGELY helpful Jimknut, and you have my thanks for them. I'm working my way through them bit by bit and hope to have them polished off shortly. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 15:25, 9 November 2015 (UTC) reply |
Support — Looks good.
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Note - You already have another open nomination (this being the second) with no supports or comments. Do you think it's wise to have two nominations simultaneously? -- Frankie talk 18:42, 9 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Support – Good clear lead, ideal layout and doubtless comprehensive content. I wondered idly why put in all the full stops after Dr and Mr (rather quaint, but still current in AmEng, I know) and yet omit one after Capt. No other quibbles, and the page seems to me to meet the FL criteria. Tim riley talk 07:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Comment by Godot13
Support Looks in excellent shape to me and anything I'd have complained about has been dealt with. This is of considerable value as I've been watching some of Lionel's films of late.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:55, 11 November 2015 (UTC) reply
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Cheers Giants, much appreciated. – SchroCat ( talk) 00:36, 15 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Support – Upon reading this list I had no clue to who Lionel was but I found the list of his roles on stage, screen and radio to be vastly comprehensive and the lists easily meets the required guidelines. Good work! Z105space (talk) 10:26, 17 November 2015 (UTC) reply
The list was promoted by Giants2008 23:07, 29 November 2015 [1].
Lionel Barrymore on stage, screen and radio ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Lionel Barrymore was an superb actor whose career ran between 1893 and his death in 1954. Part of America's "Royal Family" of actors, Barrymore is perhaps best remembered internationally for his appearance in It's a Wonderful Life, but some in the US also have fond reminiscences of his annual broadcasts in A Christmas Carol. This list has been updated and re-worked, as it was out of place there and not a full reflection of his work. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 21:44, 6 November 2015 (UTC) reply
I would remove the reference to America's "Royal Family" from the first paragraph. It is not even mentioned in the Lionel Barrymore article. Instead, I suggest you say " Barrymore family of actors." You might consider moving the "Royal Family" nickname and the references to the Lionel Barrymore article.
You mention some biographical information that does not appear in the Lionel Barrymore article. For example, you have a lot more information about Barrymore's feelings about acting and the reasons for his move to and from Paris. It seems very strange to me that the List article should spend considerable ink on this when it is barely mentioned in the main article. I really think you need to move much of the bio information to the main article. Certainly, there should not be anything in your introduction that is *not* in the main ariticle. INSTEAD, the introduction to this article needs a paragraph identifying Barrymore's best-known/most important roles and/or most important directing achievements, and also should state the number of films he acted in. Also, perhaps mention that Grand Hotel and You Can't Take It With You won Oscars for Best Picture.
You need to identify what roles he played in his stage appearances. His IBDB page identifies some that you are missing: http://ibdb.com/Person/View/31143. Same with the film roles. I see that the Wikipedia articles on the blue-linked films show what roles he played, so you should be able to fill in these at least.
The Lionel Barrymore article and yours disagree about why he was confined to a wheelchair and mentions an addiction to painkillers. If your sources are clearly better than the ones in the Lionel Barrymore article, please fix it. If not, please clarify the filmography article. In general, you need to review the Lionel Barrymore article and make sure that you make any necessary edits in it to at least harmonize with the filmography, making sure that neither article has any information that the best sources consider to be clearly wrong.
The filmography at the bottom of the Lionel Barrymore article is too long. It should be reduced to the most important items.
I know that you are not responsible for the Lionel Barrymore article, which is only about C-class, but if we are going to have a Featured List on him, the two articles should at least be harmonized so that they are not inconsistent; it seems like you are in a good position to do this, since you know the sources. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers ( talk) 18:53, 7 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Support. I am now pretty happy with the intro to this, but I still think you should add a couple more mentions of which film roles were Barrymore's most famous ones. Young Dr. Kildare? The Copperhead? Wildfire? Sadie Thompson? Rasputin and the Empress? Maybe just name 2 or 3 or 4 of his most famous ones. My support does not depend on you adding this. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 21:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Resolved comments from Jimknut ( talk) 00:47, 17 November 2015 (UTC) reply |
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Introduction
Filmography
Radio broadcasts
Television broadcast
These are HUGELY helpful Jimknut, and you have my thanks for them. I'm working my way through them bit by bit and hope to have them polished off shortly. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 15:25, 9 November 2015 (UTC) reply |
Support — Looks good.
Jimknut (
talk)
00:47, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
reply
Note - You already have another open nomination (this being the second) with no supports or comments. Do you think it's wise to have two nominations simultaneously? -- Frankie talk 18:42, 9 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Support – Good clear lead, ideal layout and doubtless comprehensive content. I wondered idly why put in all the full stops after Dr and Mr (rather quaint, but still current in AmEng, I know) and yet omit one after Capt. No other quibbles, and the page seems to me to meet the FL criteria. Tim riley talk 07:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Comment by Godot13
Support Looks in excellent shape to me and anything I'd have complained about has been dealt with. This is of considerable value as I've been watching some of Lionel's films of late.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:55, 11 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Quick comments –
Cheers Giants, much appreciated. – SchroCat ( talk) 00:36, 15 November 2015 (UTC) reply
Support – Upon reading this list I had no clue to who Lionel was but I found the list of his roles on stage, screen and radio to be vastly comprehensive and the lists easily meets the required guidelines. Good work! Z105space (talk) 10:26, 17 November 2015 (UTC) reply