The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot ( talk) 2:56, 14 May 2022 (UTC) [1].
This is a 2009 FA that's aged better than some but is still showing its age. I raised sandwiching concerns for this article on its talk page back in June, which went unanswered. Returning to it now, I'm seeing some additional issues. Even considering that West Point has had plenty of notable alumni, the section is still clearly far too long, particularly with the photos (something we've discussed generally at WT:HED and elsewhere several times). Some of the sectioning choices are questionable—why is "commemoration" level 2? And there are smaller tune-ups needed. For instance, I find it questionable to have a notes section just to give a detail about Howard. And what does the 1911 Britannica entry possibly contribute that justifies linking to it in the external links section? Assuming that this doesn't turn around, this is the last URFA on a contemporary higher education institution, and it's an important one (VA-5) in an active topic area (military history), so I hope there's some possibility to save it. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 21:50, 9 April 2022 (UTC) reply
Comments by Nick-D I agree that this isn't a FA at present, and would need a bit of work to regain that status. I have the following comments:
Comments by Buffs I was tagged in this and feel it's currently inappropriate for me to weigh in on this article's status. I am diligently working on Texas A&M and have significant concerns about this process being tilted against older FAs. I feel that any input here could be seen as attempting to bring down other articles or furthering an agenda. I believe that the article met FA criteria when it was nominated and, in general, is better than 99.9% of the articles out there. our efforts should be focused on fixing these articles, not pointing out their flaws. It's easy to point out flaws. It's tough to fix them. In general, I challenge those submitting FARs to focus their efforts on creating/bolstering content rather than providing criticism of others. Accordingly, I'm going to abstain. Buffs ( talk) 17:30, 15 April 2022 (UTC) reply
The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot ( talk) 2:56, 14 May 2022 (UTC) [1].
This is a 2009 FA that's aged better than some but is still showing its age. I raised sandwiching concerns for this article on its talk page back in June, which went unanswered. Returning to it now, I'm seeing some additional issues. Even considering that West Point has had plenty of notable alumni, the section is still clearly far too long, particularly with the photos (something we've discussed generally at WT:HED and elsewhere several times). Some of the sectioning choices are questionable—why is "commemoration" level 2? And there are smaller tune-ups needed. For instance, I find it questionable to have a notes section just to give a detail about Howard. And what does the 1911 Britannica entry possibly contribute that justifies linking to it in the external links section? Assuming that this doesn't turn around, this is the last URFA on a contemporary higher education institution, and it's an important one (VA-5) in an active topic area (military history), so I hope there's some possibility to save it. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 21:50, 9 April 2022 (UTC) reply
Comments by Nick-D I agree that this isn't a FA at present, and would need a bit of work to regain that status. I have the following comments:
Comments by Buffs I was tagged in this and feel it's currently inappropriate for me to weigh in on this article's status. I am diligently working on Texas A&M and have significant concerns about this process being tilted against older FAs. I feel that any input here could be seen as attempting to bring down other articles or furthering an agenda. I believe that the article met FA criteria when it was nominated and, in general, is better than 99.9% of the articles out there. our efforts should be focused on fixing these articles, not pointing out their flaws. It's easy to point out flaws. It's tough to fix them. In general, I challenge those submitting FARs to focus their efforts on creating/bolstering content rather than providing criticism of others. Accordingly, I'm going to abstain. Buffs ( talk) 17:30, 15 April 2022 (UTC) reply