The article was kept by Nikkimaria via FACBot ( talk) 8:47, 14 November 2020 (UTC) [1].
I am nominating this featured article for review because the article is not well-written and not well-researched, as raised by Femke Nijsse and Graham Beards. RJHall nominated this article for FA status in April Fools' 2007 (17 years ago). -- Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:57, 15 September 2020 (UTC) reply
- Too much of the article is too difficult (not well-written). This article should be understandable to a 16-year old. Yes, I'm struggling as a physics graduate.
- the very first paragraph is too difficult. Per WP:ONEDOWN, words like sidereal day should definitely be avoided.
- Further examples of things that may be too difficult include sentences like: . At the equator of the magnetic field, the magnetic-field strength at the surface is 3.05×10−5 T, with a magnetic dipole moment of 7.79×1022 Am2 at epoch 2000, decreasing nearly 6% per century
- No idea what mean solar time is meant to be.
- Many of the key facts are outdated (not well-researched):
- for instance, the article now states that the oldest material ever found in the solar system is 4.56 BYA, while a 2010 study found an older piece: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/8/100823-oldest-solar-system-two-million-years-older-science/. Dunno if that is the oldest one still.
- Future section is full of research that has specific years and often based on one old primary source.
- The final brightness of our Sun (5000 times as bright) is referenced to 1993 article. Still up-to-date?
- Human population in 2050 is estimated using 2009 UN numbers
- The amount of irrigated land is given for 1993
- Quite some unsourced paragraphs (not well-researched)
- I don't think individual weather events are due (summary style). The article now mentions a very controversial heat record, without giving context but it's likely an artefact of poor measuring. I think both temperature records should be deleted.
I am not convinced this was a good example of talk page discussion with identification of issues, but scanning the page, one easily finds indications of deterioration since RJHall retired, including being crammed full of sandwiched images, some uncited text, and some repetition in the lead. A tune-up might be in order. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:17, 15 September 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Soumya-8974: thank you very much for your help with this (although I have no idea what a "dole" is) - hope you are enjoying your return to education. I could fix this article but I would rather spend the considerable time needed on some more specialist articles which there is no chance of others updating. All I can suggest is that if anyone does fix it they ask an intelligent 16 year old such as Soumya-8974 to read through it once they have finished to make sure it is understandable. Chidgk1 ( talk) 08:52, 20 September 2020 (UTC) reply
About 29% of Earth's surface is land consisting of continents and islands. The remaining 71% is covered with water, mostly by oceans but also lakes, rivers and other fresh water, which all together constitute the hydrosphere. The majority of Earth's polar regions are covered in ice, including the Antarctic ice sheet and the sea ice of the Arctic ice pack. Earth's interior remains active with a solid iron inner core, a liquid outer core that generates Earth's magnetic field, and a convecting mantle that drives plate tectonics.right after the first sentence, as the first paragraph.
to formlinking to Phase transition (in "Geological History") should either be dropped or have the link be reduced to simply
form.
Update: in trying to address the issues raised by me and others, I'm constantly finding new issues and have come to the conclusion that concerted efforts are needed to save this article. There are now 13 citation needed tags, and I'm discovering more prose that is subpar ( and it is of the lithosphere that the tectonic plates are composed), I'm finding many dead links to sources, and it is not always clear whether all the sourcing is high quality, with a high reliance on self published websites by what seems to be academics (f.i. http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/models/constants.html). Femke Nijsse ( talk) 12:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC) reply
Alert: I am less strict on older FAs that have already run on the mainpage. And it is important to save as many stars on broadly important articles as we can.
Suggest that Jo-Jo Eumerus might have a quick glance, Bst, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC) Also, @ Graham Beards: for a re-check. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:19, 6 November 2020 (UTC) reply
definitein
definite senseshould link to definite article, whose link should be removed from "the", which if need be can be emphasized using
<em>
tags or {{
em}}.From Greek Gaia and Gaea comes Gaian and Gaean.should be cited, which should be easy to do.
The article was kept by Nikkimaria via FACBot ( talk) 8:47, 14 November 2020 (UTC) [1].
I am nominating this featured article for review because the article is not well-written and not well-researched, as raised by Femke Nijsse and Graham Beards. RJHall nominated this article for FA status in April Fools' 2007 (17 years ago). -- Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:57, 15 September 2020 (UTC) reply
- Too much of the article is too difficult (not well-written). This article should be understandable to a 16-year old. Yes, I'm struggling as a physics graduate.
- the very first paragraph is too difficult. Per WP:ONEDOWN, words like sidereal day should definitely be avoided.
- Further examples of things that may be too difficult include sentences like: . At the equator of the magnetic field, the magnetic-field strength at the surface is 3.05×10−5 T, with a magnetic dipole moment of 7.79×1022 Am2 at epoch 2000, decreasing nearly 6% per century
- No idea what mean solar time is meant to be.
- Many of the key facts are outdated (not well-researched):
- for instance, the article now states that the oldest material ever found in the solar system is 4.56 BYA, while a 2010 study found an older piece: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/8/100823-oldest-solar-system-two-million-years-older-science/. Dunno if that is the oldest one still.
- Future section is full of research that has specific years and often based on one old primary source.
- The final brightness of our Sun (5000 times as bright) is referenced to 1993 article. Still up-to-date?
- Human population in 2050 is estimated using 2009 UN numbers
- The amount of irrigated land is given for 1993
- Quite some unsourced paragraphs (not well-researched)
- I don't think individual weather events are due (summary style). The article now mentions a very controversial heat record, without giving context but it's likely an artefact of poor measuring. I think both temperature records should be deleted.
I am not convinced this was a good example of talk page discussion with identification of issues, but scanning the page, one easily finds indications of deterioration since RJHall retired, including being crammed full of sandwiched images, some uncited text, and some repetition in the lead. A tune-up might be in order. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:17, 15 September 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Soumya-8974: thank you very much for your help with this (although I have no idea what a "dole" is) - hope you are enjoying your return to education. I could fix this article but I would rather spend the considerable time needed on some more specialist articles which there is no chance of others updating. All I can suggest is that if anyone does fix it they ask an intelligent 16 year old such as Soumya-8974 to read through it once they have finished to make sure it is understandable. Chidgk1 ( talk) 08:52, 20 September 2020 (UTC) reply
About 29% of Earth's surface is land consisting of continents and islands. The remaining 71% is covered with water, mostly by oceans but also lakes, rivers and other fresh water, which all together constitute the hydrosphere. The majority of Earth's polar regions are covered in ice, including the Antarctic ice sheet and the sea ice of the Arctic ice pack. Earth's interior remains active with a solid iron inner core, a liquid outer core that generates Earth's magnetic field, and a convecting mantle that drives plate tectonics.right after the first sentence, as the first paragraph.
to formlinking to Phase transition (in "Geological History") should either be dropped or have the link be reduced to simply
form.
Update: in trying to address the issues raised by me and others, I'm constantly finding new issues and have come to the conclusion that concerted efforts are needed to save this article. There are now 13 citation needed tags, and I'm discovering more prose that is subpar ( and it is of the lithosphere that the tectonic plates are composed), I'm finding many dead links to sources, and it is not always clear whether all the sourcing is high quality, with a high reliance on self published websites by what seems to be academics (f.i. http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/models/constants.html). Femke Nijsse ( talk) 12:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC) reply
Alert: I am less strict on older FAs that have already run on the mainpage. And it is important to save as many stars on broadly important articles as we can.
Suggest that Jo-Jo Eumerus might have a quick glance, Bst, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC) Also, @ Graham Beards: for a re-check. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:19, 6 November 2020 (UTC) reply
definitein
definite senseshould link to definite article, whose link should be removed from "the", which if need be can be emphasized using
<em>
tags or {{
em}}.From Greek Gaia and Gaea comes Gaian and Gaean.should be cited, which should be easy to do.