The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 01:20, 16 April 2011 [1].
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We are nominating this for featured article not only because it's very well written and sourced, but also due to its interesting subject. Although a minor historical character in both Brazil and Portugal, the Princess had a far more important role (even if in death) in Mexico, a country she never saw. The article follows the same standard already seen in other Brazilian history-related Featured Articles such as Pedro II of Brazil and Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies. Regards, -- Lecen ( talk) 19:31, 11 February 2011 (UTC) reply
Sources comments: The sources and citations look OK, but as they are nearly all in Portuguese I can't do much more than check the formats. A few concerns:-
Not able to do any spotchecking beyond the single page of Barman that I found online. Brianboulton ( talk) 00:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC) reply
Disambig/External Link check - no dabs or dead external links. -- Pres N 00:31, 18 February 2011 (UTC) reply
Quick comment Half the images have forced image sizes, and the rest I would recommend where 'upright'. Right now, the layout looks rather messy because of this. Forcing images without good reason can create accessibility problems, per WP:IMGSIZE (which is policy). Arsenikk (talk) 21:19, 18 February 2011 (UTC) reply
I'll be happy to support once they are addressed. Aptery gial 04:21, 5 March 2011 (UTC) reply
A few more points (some of which resulted from the changes made due to my above comments):
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Nikkimaria (
talk) 13:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC) *Weak oppose - sorry to put a damper on this FAC, but I think the article is in need of serious copy-editing for clarity, tone and flow.
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Some examples of issues with prose:
These are examples from a quick glance; please thoroughly go over the text to fix other instances of these problems. Nikkimaria ( talk) 13:08, 22 March 2011 (UTC) reply
Resolved comments from
Gyrobo
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Copyedit
-- Gyrobo ( talk) 03:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC) reply More copyediting
-- Gyrobo ( talk) 21:32, 13 March 2011 (UTC) reply
Remaining issues
-- Gyrobo ( talk) 16:37, 17 March 2011 (UTC) reply
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Comments by A. Parrot
The prose seems good to me, too, except one confusing portion in the "Birth" section. It says that Pedro I "abdicated both crowns", which makes it sound like he gave them both up at the same time. Then it describes the dispute over his succession in Portugal and says that in response he "abdicated the Brazilian throne in April 1831 and departed for Europe." If he gave up the Portuguese throne first, as seems to be the case, perhaps say "By such-and-such year, he had abdicated the Portuguese throne" and then talk about Maria II and the succession problem. A. Parrot ( talk) 23:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC) reply
I just have one more question. There isn't much information about Maria Amélia's personality or interests outside of her relationships; that material is mostly restricted to one paragraph in "Ill-fated engagement". Am I correct in assuming that this is all you could find on the subject? I encourage you to add more if you can, but if that isn't possible, I can't that see any further improvements are needed. A. Parrot ( talk) 23:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC) reply
Just wanted to make sure of that. In that case…
Ellipses should have spaces, need review ( WP:MOS#Ellipses). Why is there hidden text in Ancestors? Why are English language words in WP:ITALICS? (English: Mary Emily Augusta Eugenia Josephine Louise Theodelinda Eli Francis Xavier of Paula Gabriella Raphaella Gonzaga). And why are collapsed templates used in this FAC? Please try to get a MOS review before Laser goes through. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:40, 3 April 2011 (UTC) reply
Comments: I made all the following edits, unless I asked a question or made a request. Feel free to revert. - Dank ( push to talk) 18:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC) reply
The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 01:20, 16 April 2011 [1].
Princess Maria Amélia of Brazil ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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We are nominating this for featured article not only because it's very well written and sourced, but also due to its interesting subject. Although a minor historical character in both Brazil and Portugal, the Princess had a far more important role (even if in death) in Mexico, a country she never saw. The article follows the same standard already seen in other Brazilian history-related Featured Articles such as Pedro II of Brazil and Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies. Regards, -- Lecen ( talk) 19:31, 11 February 2011 (UTC) reply
Sources comments: The sources and citations look OK, but as they are nearly all in Portuguese I can't do much more than check the formats. A few concerns:-
Not able to do any spotchecking beyond the single page of Barman that I found online. Brianboulton ( talk) 00:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC) reply
Disambig/External Link check - no dabs or dead external links. -- Pres N 00:31, 18 February 2011 (UTC) reply
Quick comment Half the images have forced image sizes, and the rest I would recommend where 'upright'. Right now, the layout looks rather messy because of this. Forcing images without good reason can create accessibility problems, per WP:IMGSIZE (which is policy). Arsenikk (talk) 21:19, 18 February 2011 (UTC) reply
I'll be happy to support once they are addressed. Aptery gial 04:21, 5 March 2011 (UTC) reply
A few more points (some of which resulted from the changes made due to my above comments):
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Neutral
Nikkimaria (
talk) 13:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC) *Weak oppose - sorry to put a damper on this FAC, but I think the article is in need of serious copy-editing for clarity, tone and flow.
reply
Some examples of issues with prose:
These are examples from a quick glance; please thoroughly go over the text to fix other instances of these problems. Nikkimaria ( talk) 13:08, 22 March 2011 (UTC) reply
Resolved comments from
Gyrobo
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Copyedit
-- Gyrobo ( talk) 03:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC) reply More copyediting
-- Gyrobo ( talk) 21:32, 13 March 2011 (UTC) reply
Remaining issues
-- Gyrobo ( talk) 16:37, 17 March 2011 (UTC) reply
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Comments by A. Parrot
The prose seems good to me, too, except one confusing portion in the "Birth" section. It says that Pedro I "abdicated both crowns", which makes it sound like he gave them both up at the same time. Then it describes the dispute over his succession in Portugal and says that in response he "abdicated the Brazilian throne in April 1831 and departed for Europe." If he gave up the Portuguese throne first, as seems to be the case, perhaps say "By such-and-such year, he had abdicated the Portuguese throne" and then talk about Maria II and the succession problem. A. Parrot ( talk) 23:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC) reply
I just have one more question. There isn't much information about Maria Amélia's personality or interests outside of her relationships; that material is mostly restricted to one paragraph in "Ill-fated engagement". Am I correct in assuming that this is all you could find on the subject? I encourage you to add more if you can, but if that isn't possible, I can't that see any further improvements are needed. A. Parrot ( talk) 23:39, 31 March 2011 (UTC) reply
Just wanted to make sure of that. In that case…
Ellipses should have spaces, need review ( WP:MOS#Ellipses). Why is there hidden text in Ancestors? Why are English language words in WP:ITALICS? (English: Mary Emily Augusta Eugenia Josephine Louise Theodelinda Eli Francis Xavier of Paula Gabriella Raphaella Gonzaga). And why are collapsed templates used in this FAC? Please try to get a MOS review before Laser goes through. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:40, 3 April 2011 (UTC) reply
Comments: I made all the following edits, unless I asked a question or made a request. Feel free to revert. - Dank ( push to talk) 18:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC) reply