The article was archived by Ealdgyth via FACBot ( talk) 28 March 2020 [1].
This article is about the French baroque sculptor Pierre Le Gros (1666-1719) who lived and worked in Rome for most of his adult life and became one of the best known sculptors of his day in Europe.
Le Gros has been the object of my studies for more than 30 years (on and off, obviously) and much of this article is based on my own, published and peer reviewed research. I have updated this to include more recent studies by other scholars and have quoted and referenced others in preference to myself where possible. But I have tried to avoid unreliable populist opinions from online sources. While taking them seriously and drilling down into their references (if given), I have found most to be wrong or ultimately based on my own published material.
In parallel, editing this article and cross-referencing it has lead me to numerous small updates of related articles and a couple of complete rewrites, so there was a lot of collateral work involved.
I have been digging deep into wikimedia, flickr and other non-commercial image sites to establish as complete a list of images of Le Gros' work as possible and found many of them - proving that there are other people out there who find his work interesting, not just me. I also uploaded some of my own images which, as it turned out, weren't always the best quality or were copyrighted, so I couldn't upload them. But I tried my best.
The writing style I adopted is factual but, I hope, not too dry and easily digestible. I have also tried to avoid jargon except for some relatively broadly known specialist words but at the same time linked them to other wikipedia articles to clarify what they mean. The translations of quotes from other languages, particularly French, are my own, and I'm happy to listen to suggestions to improve them if they're found wanting.
All in all, I hope you like what I produced... Gerbis ( talk) 07:59, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Image review
Recusing from coord duties, tks for bringing this article to FAC, but on a quick run-through I have serious concerns:
If only one these issues was present I mightn't recommend withdrawal but taken together I think it'd be preferable to work on the article away from FAC and bring it back for another go later. Note that the above is not an exhaustive list. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 13:22, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid I will have to second the above Oppose, and for mostly the same reasons.
It is a very interesting article, for which many thanks, but stylistically I think it is some way off meeting the FA criteria. KJP1 ( talk) 09:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Needs loads more refs, and (especially those to your own book) page numbers. It would be good to couple many of these with other books that may be more readily available. As you can see above, WP:PEACOCK has always made any stylistic analysis of art, especially if enthusiastic, tricky on WP. I generally just use quotes, which are accepted. I'm sure it would be fine after a bit of work. Johnbod ( talk) 00:39, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
@ FAC coordinators: What's the status of this nom? I see a couple of references above to it having been withdrawn. Nikkimaria ( talk) 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
The article was archived by Ealdgyth via FACBot ( talk) 28 March 2020 [1].
This article is about the French baroque sculptor Pierre Le Gros (1666-1719) who lived and worked in Rome for most of his adult life and became one of the best known sculptors of his day in Europe.
Le Gros has been the object of my studies for more than 30 years (on and off, obviously) and much of this article is based on my own, published and peer reviewed research. I have updated this to include more recent studies by other scholars and have quoted and referenced others in preference to myself where possible. But I have tried to avoid unreliable populist opinions from online sources. While taking them seriously and drilling down into their references (if given), I have found most to be wrong or ultimately based on my own published material.
In parallel, editing this article and cross-referencing it has lead me to numerous small updates of related articles and a couple of complete rewrites, so there was a lot of collateral work involved.
I have been digging deep into wikimedia, flickr and other non-commercial image sites to establish as complete a list of images of Le Gros' work as possible and found many of them - proving that there are other people out there who find his work interesting, not just me. I also uploaded some of my own images which, as it turned out, weren't always the best quality or were copyrighted, so I couldn't upload them. But I tried my best.
The writing style I adopted is factual but, I hope, not too dry and easily digestible. I have also tried to avoid jargon except for some relatively broadly known specialist words but at the same time linked them to other wikipedia articles to clarify what they mean. The translations of quotes from other languages, particularly French, are my own, and I'm happy to listen to suggestions to improve them if they're found wanting.
All in all, I hope you like what I produced... Gerbis ( talk) 07:59, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Image review
Recusing from coord duties, tks for bringing this article to FAC, but on a quick run-through I have serious concerns:
If only one these issues was present I mightn't recommend withdrawal but taken together I think it'd be preferable to work on the article away from FAC and bring it back for another go later. Note that the above is not an exhaustive list. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 13:22, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid I will have to second the above Oppose, and for mostly the same reasons.
It is a very interesting article, for which many thanks, but stylistically I think it is some way off meeting the FA criteria. KJP1 ( talk) 09:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Needs loads more refs, and (especially those to your own book) page numbers. It would be good to couple many of these with other books that may be more readily available. As you can see above, WP:PEACOCK has always made any stylistic analysis of art, especially if enthusiastic, tricky on WP. I generally just use quotes, which are accepted. I'm sure it would be fine after a bit of work. Johnbod ( talk) 00:39, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
@ FAC coordinators: What's the status of this nom? I see a couple of references above to it having been withdrawn. Nikkimaria ( talk) 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)