The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot ( talk) 15:11, 18 July 2016 [1].
This article is about a Hawaiian-American Union Army soldier who is considered one of the "Hawaiʻi Sons of the Civil War"; he was among a group of more than one hundred documented Hawaiian and Hawaii-born combatants who fought in the American Civil War while the Kingdom of Hawaii was still an independent nation. In recent years, he has become one of the many central figures of interest in a revival of interest of this period of Hawaiian history. This article was nominated as a good article and A-List article and has been peer reviewed. Basically, everything known in the sources directly about this individual is already in the article itself, so there are some questions that I won't be able to answer because no known knowledge exist about it. Renominating. KAVEBEAR ( talk) 17:47, 2 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria ( talk) 21:31, 7 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Support on prose per standard disclaimer. I've looked at the changes made since I reviewed this for A-class. - Dank ( push to talk) 03:03, 9 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Support - noting that I've been involved with this article at the peer review stage. It appears to cover the available sources thoroughly and I don't remember finding any additional material at peer review which should have been added. Hchc2009 ( talk) 22:42, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Support: generally looks pretty good to me. I have a couple of minor suggestions: AustralianRupert ( talk) 05:32, 14 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Support - I reviewed this for GA, since then it has only gotten better. The prose & material is FA quality -- Errant ( chat!) 15:01, 20 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Note -- Unless I missed it, looks like we need a source review for formatting and reliability; also as I believe this will be the nominator's first FA if successful, we'll need a spotcheck of sources for accuracy and avoidance of plagiarism or close paraphrasing. A request for these can be listed at the top of WT:FAC. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 13:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
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Using this version for consistency of referencing:
All in all, sourcing looks sound. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 12:36, 17 July 2016 (UTC) reply
@ Ian Rose: Anything else needs to be done?-- KAVEBEAR ( talk) 15:05, 17 July 2016 (UTC) reply
The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot ( talk) 15:11, 18 July 2016 [1].
This article is about a Hawaiian-American Union Army soldier who is considered one of the "Hawaiʻi Sons of the Civil War"; he was among a group of more than one hundred documented Hawaiian and Hawaii-born combatants who fought in the American Civil War while the Kingdom of Hawaii was still an independent nation. In recent years, he has become one of the many central figures of interest in a revival of interest of this period of Hawaiian history. This article was nominated as a good article and A-List article and has been peer reviewed. Basically, everything known in the sources directly about this individual is already in the article itself, so there are some questions that I won't be able to answer because no known knowledge exist about it. Renominating. KAVEBEAR ( talk) 17:47, 2 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria ( talk) 21:31, 7 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Support on prose per standard disclaimer. I've looked at the changes made since I reviewed this for A-class. - Dank ( push to talk) 03:03, 9 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Support - noting that I've been involved with this article at the peer review stage. It appears to cover the available sources thoroughly and I don't remember finding any additional material at peer review which should have been added. Hchc2009 ( talk) 22:42, 13 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Support: generally looks pretty good to me. I have a couple of minor suggestions: AustralianRupert ( talk) 05:32, 14 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Support - I reviewed this for GA, since then it has only gotten better. The prose & material is FA quality -- Errant ( chat!) 15:01, 20 May 2016 (UTC) reply
Note -- Unless I missed it, looks like we need a source review for formatting and reliability; also as I believe this will be the nominator's first FA if successful, we'll need a spotcheck of sources for accuracy and avoidance of plagiarism or close paraphrasing. A request for these can be listed at the top of WT:FAC. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 13:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC) reply
|website=
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{{
cite book}}
with |journal=
{{
cite book}}
with |work=
{{
sfn}}
and {{
cite book}}
templates. When the author name is not available, but the editor's name is available, shouldn't we be using the editor name because that name is left-most in the rendered citation? This way we don't astonish the reader who expects the Harvard reference to match the citation.
{{cite web |title=1860 United States Census |url=http://www.mocavo.com/Henry-Pitman-B1845-Newton-Middlesex-Massachusetts-1860-United-States-Census/01754860596728994882 |website=[[Mocavo]] |registration=yes |accessdate=September 6, 2015}}
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ignored (|url-access=
suggested) (
help){{
cite book}}
template. There are ways to do it which I'll explain if that is what is needed here.{{cite book}}
templates (one for each article) or use {{
harvc}}
to cite the individual articles and the {{cite book}}
to cite the enclosing section. Consider this (the four {{
harvnb}}
templates are a mock-up of how similar {{sfn}}
templates would render in §References; page numbers are made up):in §References: {{harvnb|Vance|Manning|2015a|p=137}} {{harvnb|Vance|Manning|2015b|pp=142, 145}} {{harvnb|McCunn|2015|p=150}} {{harvnb|Vance|Manning|2015c|pp=152–154}} in §Bibliography: *{{cite book|editor-last=Shively|editor-first=Carol A.|section=Pacific Islanders and the Civil War|title=Asians and Pacific Islanders and the Civil War|year=2015|location=Washington, D. C.|publisher=National Park Service|isbn=978-1-59091-167-9|oclc=904731668 |pages=130–163|ref=harv}} **{{harvc |contribution=J. R. Kealoha |last=Vance |first=Justin |last2=Manning |first2=Anita |in=Shively |year=2015 |pp=135–140 |id=CITEREFVanceManning2015a}} **{{harvc |contribution=Kingdom of Hawaii Citizens of American Descent |last=Vance |first=Justin |last2=Manning |first2=Anita |in=Shively |year=2015 |pp=141–147 |id=CITEREFVanceManning2015b}} **{{harvc |contribution=Prince Romerson |last=McCunn |first=Ruthanne Lum |in=Shively |year=2015 |pp=148–150}} **{{harvc |contribution=Henry Hoolulu (Timothy) Pitman |last=Vance |first=Justin |last2=Manning |first2=Anita |in=Shively |year=2015 |pp=151–155 |id=CITEREFVanceManning2015c}}
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citation with the section title. |id=
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harvc}}
templates because there are multiple Vance & Manning contributions.{{
harvc}}
s all in a column, for the second and third you might want to include |author-mask=2
and |author-mask2=2
. For page numbers, you might want to move the page ranges from the {{
sfn}}
templates to the {{harvc}}
templates. Then, at the {{sfn}}
s include the specific page (or pages) upon which the source material that supports this article can be found. This way page numbering is hierarchical {{
cite book}}
identifies the section page range (130–163), each {{harvc}}
identifies the page-range of an article (132–135, 146–149, 161–163), and each {{
sfn}}
template identifies the particular supporting page.I tried those templates but they came out wrong for some reasonmeans because whatever it is that you tried didn't get saved so the article is in the same state as it was when you posted the diff of what you had done to add the
{{
harvc}}
templates. So, specifically, what did you try and what were the results? Or, better, try again and save so that I can see what it is that you did.{{
sfn}}
to {{
harvc}}
not rename sfn to harvc. Then at the {{sfn}}
that now doesn't have a page parameter, add a |p=
or |pp=
parameter so that the reader can go directly the the page in the source that supports the statement in the article. So for Vance & Manning 2015a, move |pp=132–135
to the "Introduction" {{harvc}}
. At the Vance & Manning 2015a {{sfn}}
add a |p=
or |pp=
parameter that identifies the specific page upon which Vance and Manning claim Kamehameha "denied permission for the men to go as a unit" (or whichever bit of that note is supported by the Vance & Manning 2015a Introduction).{{
cite book}}
.{{
harvc}}
.{{
sfn}}
template.Will continue from above. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 12:14, 17 July 2016 (UTC) reply
Using this version for consistency of referencing:
All in all, sourcing looks sound. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 12:36, 17 July 2016 (UTC) reply
@ Ian Rose: Anything else needs to be done?-- KAVEBEAR ( talk) 15:05, 17 July 2016 (UTC) reply