Sam ov the blue sand ( talk · contribs) I have been here for 8 or 9 months now as a registered user and I would like to know how others think of me so I can be a better editor. Sam ov the blue sand 02:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
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Hello. I've seen you commonly editing around the Naruto-related articles, reverting vandalism and ensuring consensus is followed. Anyhow, as you appear to be involved in vandalism particularly, a nice path for you to pursue would be picking up one of the anti-vandalism tools commonly used nowadays: Twinkle, VandalProof, or a tool of your choice from Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism/Tools. I've been using Twinkle for quite a while, and find it the easiest to utilize in addition to being rather versatile. VandalProof is effective, but requires you to sign up for it, which can be an aggravatingly long wait (although you meet all their selection criteria). But then again, play with the tools as you see fit and choose the one you feel best using. Remember to be responsible with their use, however. Simply because reverting is a button click away does not give you the license to break WP:3RR or revert war period for that matter. That said, you appear to carry the right temperament in this regard. If you really want to get into anti-vandalism activities, then you can get Lupin's anti-vandal tool, which gives you a feed of recent changes, where you can revert vandalism right as it occurs.
A particularly worrying thing that I've seen in your recent edits, however, is a belief that administrators instinctively want to delete or merge articles ( diff and diff). First, this is an automatic assumption of bad faith that needs to be avoided. Next, the material that you're defending more often than not is information that does not pass Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) (given that both of these cases are on fictional subjects), and any inquiries that should happen from an administrator on the article's notability is quite justified. However, please note that they are editors, just as you and I am, simply with additional tools that aid them in rather specific categories of Wikipedia that require them. They are not "higher" than other editors. By virtue of being an administrator, they tend to be more competent and respected than most regular editors are. If a concern is brought up (and this applies to all editors) concerning the notability of an article, answer it civilly and respectfully, and address the point at hand. Your actions in the diffs above are ad hominem arguments that have no place in discussion on Wikipedia, and I'd highly recommend that you abandon this belief. It's not the end of the world if an article on a fictional subject you particularly like gets merged or deleted, and if you really want the article, then find reliable secondary sources, and all parties (editors and administrators alike) will defer to your argument.
Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ( Converse) 02:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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Sam ov the blue sand ( talk · contribs) I have been here for 8 or 9 months now as a registered user and I would like to know how others think of me so I can be a better editor. Sam ov the blue sand 02:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
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Hello. I've seen you commonly editing around the Naruto-related articles, reverting vandalism and ensuring consensus is followed. Anyhow, as you appear to be involved in vandalism particularly, a nice path for you to pursue would be picking up one of the anti-vandalism tools commonly used nowadays: Twinkle, VandalProof, or a tool of your choice from Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism/Tools. I've been using Twinkle for quite a while, and find it the easiest to utilize in addition to being rather versatile. VandalProof is effective, but requires you to sign up for it, which can be an aggravatingly long wait (although you meet all their selection criteria). But then again, play with the tools as you see fit and choose the one you feel best using. Remember to be responsible with their use, however. Simply because reverting is a button click away does not give you the license to break WP:3RR or revert war period for that matter. That said, you appear to carry the right temperament in this regard. If you really want to get into anti-vandalism activities, then you can get Lupin's anti-vandal tool, which gives you a feed of recent changes, where you can revert vandalism right as it occurs.
A particularly worrying thing that I've seen in your recent edits, however, is a belief that administrators instinctively want to delete or merge articles ( diff and diff). First, this is an automatic assumption of bad faith that needs to be avoided. Next, the material that you're defending more often than not is information that does not pass Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) (given that both of these cases are on fictional subjects), and any inquiries that should happen from an administrator on the article's notability is quite justified. However, please note that they are editors, just as you and I am, simply with additional tools that aid them in rather specific categories of Wikipedia that require them. They are not "higher" than other editors. By virtue of being an administrator, they tend to be more competent and respected than most regular editors are. If a concern is brought up (and this applies to all editors) concerning the notability of an article, answer it civilly and respectfully, and address the point at hand. Your actions in the diffs above are ad hominem arguments that have no place in discussion on Wikipedia, and I'd highly recommend that you abandon this belief. It's not the end of the world if an article on a fictional subject you particularly like gets merged or deleted, and if you really want the article, then find reliable secondary sources, and all parties (editors and administrators alike) will defer to your argument.
Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ( Converse) 02:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
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