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Damien Fonoti ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

This has been deleted again despite being restored just several hours ago with no further votes cast since. Should be relisted or Keep - no consensus. Current vote is 3 - 2 in favor of keep. Simione001 ( talk) 22:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC) reply

The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
  • Wood between the Worlds – There is no consensus here - opinions are split between relist, overturn and endorse. In a no consensus situation at DRV, the closer can choose to relist the AfD. I'm doing so here because it has not previously been relisted and all but one person here disagree with the closure. Sandstein 13:00, 3 August 2022 (UTC) reply
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Wood between the Worlds ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

3 Keep votes, which pointed to sources not currently in the article, versus 4 Merge votes. Looks like No consensus to me. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 15:37, 26 July 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Relist the keep votes correctly asserted this article meets WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV as a standalone article, including User:Daranios' vote which adds two additional references. No voters refuted that Daranios' sources as having established notability. This vote may have started a shift in consensus away from merge, as there was only one merge vote (which appears to be an WP:IDONTLIKEIT vote) a couple other votes that reflect Daranios' opinion. Another week would allow for consensus to develop, if there is a consensus to either keep or merge. Frank Anchor 18:51, 26 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Relist - Not a consensus to merge, and there might be more Keep arguments. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:32, 27 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Overturn to keep Not a single !vote supporting deletion or nom's original deletion rationale. In fact, the only compelling merge argument after Daranios' sources were posted was from Johnpacklambert whose particular history any AfD closer should be aware of, and arguably in violation of his 2021 topic ban from religious topics: C. S. Lewis, the author of the book containing the concept and mentioned in the article lead, is one of the most significant and influential religious figures of the 20th century. This article could absolutely be merged into a broader discussion of Narnian cosmology, but not as a mandated outcome from this AfD discussion. Jclemens ( talk) 20:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Merge is definitely the right result. Personally I don't see a lot of benefit in quibbling about how we got there.— S Marshall  T/ C 20:33, 29 July 2022 (UTC) reply
    I'll differ, in that I think poor deletion nominations should not be rewarded with an AfD-imposed outcome when deletion was never a serious policy-based outcome in the first place. As such, I agree with your conclusion, only contest that it should have the imprimatur of an AfD discussion behind it. Jclemens ( talk) 08:40, 30 July 2022 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Damien Fonoti ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

This has been deleted again despite being restored just several hours ago with no further votes cast since. Should be relisted or Keep - no consensus. Current vote is 3 - 2 in favor of keep. Simione001 ( talk) 22:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC) reply

The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
  • Wood between the Worlds – There is no consensus here - opinions are split between relist, overturn and endorse. In a no consensus situation at DRV, the closer can choose to relist the AfD. I'm doing so here because it has not previously been relisted and all but one person here disagree with the closure. Sandstein 13:00, 3 August 2022 (UTC) reply
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Wood between the Worlds ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

3 Keep votes, which pointed to sources not currently in the article, versus 4 Merge votes. Looks like No consensus to me. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 15:37, 26 July 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Relist the keep votes correctly asserted this article meets WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV as a standalone article, including User:Daranios' vote which adds two additional references. No voters refuted that Daranios' sources as having established notability. This vote may have started a shift in consensus away from merge, as there was only one merge vote (which appears to be an WP:IDONTLIKEIT vote) a couple other votes that reflect Daranios' opinion. Another week would allow for consensus to develop, if there is a consensus to either keep or merge. Frank Anchor 18:51, 26 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Relist - Not a consensus to merge, and there might be more Keep arguments. Robert McClenon ( talk) 16:32, 27 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Overturn to keep Not a single !vote supporting deletion or nom's original deletion rationale. In fact, the only compelling merge argument after Daranios' sources were posted was from Johnpacklambert whose particular history any AfD closer should be aware of, and arguably in violation of his 2021 topic ban from religious topics: C. S. Lewis, the author of the book containing the concept and mentioned in the article lead, is one of the most significant and influential religious figures of the 20th century. This article could absolutely be merged into a broader discussion of Narnian cosmology, but not as a mandated outcome from this AfD discussion. Jclemens ( talk) 20:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Merge is definitely the right result. Personally I don't see a lot of benefit in quibbling about how we got there.— S Marshall  T/ C 20:33, 29 July 2022 (UTC) reply
    I'll differ, in that I think poor deletion nominations should not be rewarded with an AfD-imposed outcome when deletion was never a serious policy-based outcome in the first place. As such, I agree with your conclusion, only contest that it should have the imprimatur of an AfD discussion behind it. Jclemens ( talk) 08:40, 30 July 2022 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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