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15 September 2021

  • Omar & Salma 3Restore as draft There's good consensus that this should be restored in some fashion so I've restored it to Draft:Omar & Salma 3. There's no real consensus on what should happen next; possibilities include expanding to a stand-alone article and submitting to WP:AfC, or just moving to mainspace once it's expanded without need for an explicit review, or merging into Omar & Salma, perhaps with a mainspace redirect. I'll leave the next step up to normal editorial judgement. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Omar & Salma 3 ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

As sometimes happens with articles about non-English films, and particularly those with names written in non-Roman scripts, participants didn't find good Arabic-language reviews. I don't read Arabic, but after I discovered that two other movies in the same series had been nominated for deletion, I started looking for references for this one. Here are some that I found: film review, https://shorouknews.com/news/view.aspx?cdate=19012012&id=916f2eef-f149-4e1c-955d-8ffe803be7ad , https://elcinema.com/work/1416070/enrich , , IMDB, only as a external links, photos of actors at film premiere For these reasons, Tamer Hosny postponed the movie "Omar and Salma 3"! and there are probably others to be found. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 01:25, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse if this is an appeal of the close. Robert McClenon ( talk) 05:00, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Allow Re-Creation of Draft if this is a request to create a draft (without waiting two or six months). Robert McClenon ( talk) 05:00, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I'm sure it can be restored to draft space if the OP wants to work on it. There is absolutely no requirement that someone who wants to create a draft wait two to six months as suggested above. Hut 8.5 07:30, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I'd be happy to draftify for Eastmain or anyone else to work on. It appears sources exist and this could be moved back once they're added. Star Mississippi 15:57, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Overturn (to merge and redirect to Omar & Salma). Per policy, WP:ATD-M, the discussion failed WP:BEFORE. Also, beware English language bias. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 01:42, 16 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Nobody suggested this because there's nothing to merge. The article was extremely short and apart from the title essentially identical to your suggested target. Hut 8.5 07:37, 16 September 2021 (UTC) reply
    WP:ATD-R then. SmokeyJoe ( talk) 09:58, 16 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Draftify and allow recreation – the AfD was procedurally correct but substantively flawed. In such cases, there's no harm in allowing a new, properly sourced article: anyone who's especially aggrieved is free to start a new AfD. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 05:29, 22 September 2021 (UTC) reply
    I recommend interested editors to expand Omar & Salma to cover the set of three films. They are a very closely connected set. Even better, do this first at ar:عمر_وسلمى_(فيلم), the native language Wikipedia article, and the slightly ahead WP:STUB of the three versions. However, I support anyone who would prefer to do according to their own preference. SmokeyJoe ( talk) 06:27, 22 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

15 September 2021

  • Omar & Salma 3Restore as draft There's good consensus that this should be restored in some fashion so I've restored it to Draft:Omar & Salma 3. There's no real consensus on what should happen next; possibilities include expanding to a stand-alone article and submitting to WP:AfC, or just moving to mainspace once it's expanded without need for an explicit review, or merging into Omar & Salma, perhaps with a mainspace redirect. I'll leave the next step up to normal editorial judgement. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Omar & Salma 3 ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

As sometimes happens with articles about non-English films, and particularly those with names written in non-Roman scripts, participants didn't find good Arabic-language reviews. I don't read Arabic, but after I discovered that two other movies in the same series had been nominated for deletion, I started looking for references for this one. Here are some that I found: film review, https://shorouknews.com/news/view.aspx?cdate=19012012&id=916f2eef-f149-4e1c-955d-8ffe803be7ad , https://elcinema.com/work/1416070/enrich , , IMDB, only as a external links, photos of actors at film premiere For these reasons, Tamer Hosny postponed the movie "Omar and Salma 3"! and there are probably others to be found. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 01:25, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse if this is an appeal of the close. Robert McClenon ( talk) 05:00, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Allow Re-Creation of Draft if this is a request to create a draft (without waiting two or six months). Robert McClenon ( talk) 05:00, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I'm sure it can be restored to draft space if the OP wants to work on it. There is absolutely no requirement that someone who wants to create a draft wait two to six months as suggested above. Hut 8.5 07:30, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I'd be happy to draftify for Eastmain or anyone else to work on. It appears sources exist and this could be moved back once they're added. Star Mississippi 15:57, 15 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Overturn (to merge and redirect to Omar & Salma). Per policy, WP:ATD-M, the discussion failed WP:BEFORE. Also, beware English language bias. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 01:42, 16 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Nobody suggested this because there's nothing to merge. The article was extremely short and apart from the title essentially identical to your suggested target. Hut 8.5 07:37, 16 September 2021 (UTC) reply
    WP:ATD-R then. SmokeyJoe ( talk) 09:58, 16 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Draftify and allow recreation – the AfD was procedurally correct but substantively flawed. In such cases, there's no harm in allowing a new, properly sourced article: anyone who's especially aggrieved is free to start a new AfD. Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 05:29, 22 September 2021 (UTC) reply
    I recommend interested editors to expand Omar & Salma to cover the set of three films. They are a very closely connected set. Even better, do this first at ar:عمر_وسلمى_(فيلم), the native language Wikipedia article, and the slightly ahead WP:STUB of the three versions. However, I support anyone who would prefer to do according to their own preference. SmokeyJoe ( talk) 06:27, 22 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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