Roman Staněk – Endorsed - if you want it draftified, ask me or whoever else. If you create a new, non-G4able version and want it unsalted, also just ask (the SALTing is clearly premature anyways, since it was recreated once, not repeatedly).
WilyD 14:11, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
WilyD14:11, 8 December 2020 (UTC)reply
The following is an archived debate of the
deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
The participation was minimal and the only argument given was that the person does not meet
WP:NMOTORSPORT. NMOTORSPORT clearly says "Have driven in a race in a fully professional series." The subject hasn't driven a not one race in a professional series, but has driven a whole season in the
2020 FIA Formula 3 Championship, which does count as a professional series, making the only given argument invalid. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^21:35, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Endorse There's no list of fully professional motorsport leagues, other drivers in that series appear woefully undersourced as well, and there's nothing on wikipedia at least showing F3 is "fully professional" and a quick search shows that only the winners get prize money. He's a BLP who failed
WP:GNG which is a requirement of
WP:NSPORT, so the deletion is proper regardless, though if more sources can be shown I'm fine with recreating the article. I don't know enough about the topic and may be wrong on this but it might open up looking at whether some other drivers in the series meet notability guidelines as well.
SportingFlyerT·C11:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Restore the participation in the AfD was minimal and we have a reasonable objection to the rationale for deletion, so this should be restored as a contested soft deletion. I don't think we can justify salting it on the basis of two deletions, one by a banned user. Hut 8.514:20, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Endorse. Low participation, but my quick search for sources turns up many, but I would label all I saw as “promotional” as indicated by featuring professional photography and subject interview, or not independent commentary but directory information blurred with non-
secondary source reports. A fifteen year old rising motorsport star, of course there is going to be lots of promotion, and there is, and so great care is needed in testing for notability. Encourage draftifying and use of the
WP:THREE standard for mainspacing. Also encouraging adding mentions to existing articles, not being mentioned anywhere else in Wikipedia is a strong sign of non-notability. —
SmokeyJoe (
talk)
21:50, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Roman Staněk – Endorsed - if you want it draftified, ask me or whoever else. If you create a new, non-G4able version and want it unsalted, also just ask (the SALTing is clearly premature anyways, since it was recreated once, not repeatedly).
WilyD 14:11, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
WilyD14:11, 8 December 2020 (UTC)reply
The following is an archived debate of the
deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
The participation was minimal and the only argument given was that the person does not meet
WP:NMOTORSPORT. NMOTORSPORT clearly says "Have driven in a race in a fully professional series." The subject hasn't driven a not one race in a professional series, but has driven a whole season in the
2020 FIA Formula 3 Championship, which does count as a professional series, making the only given argument invalid. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^21:35, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Endorse There's no list of fully professional motorsport leagues, other drivers in that series appear woefully undersourced as well, and there's nothing on wikipedia at least showing F3 is "fully professional" and a quick search shows that only the winners get prize money. He's a BLP who failed
WP:GNG which is a requirement of
WP:NSPORT, so the deletion is proper regardless, though if more sources can be shown I'm fine with recreating the article. I don't know enough about the topic and may be wrong on this but it might open up looking at whether some other drivers in the series meet notability guidelines as well.
SportingFlyerT·C11:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Restore the participation in the AfD was minimal and we have a reasonable objection to the rationale for deletion, so this should be restored as a contested soft deletion. I don't think we can justify salting it on the basis of two deletions, one by a banned user. Hut 8.514:20, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Endorse. Low participation, but my quick search for sources turns up many, but I would label all I saw as “promotional” as indicated by featuring professional photography and subject interview, or not independent commentary but directory information blurred with non-
secondary source reports. A fifteen year old rising motorsport star, of course there is going to be lots of promotion, and there is, and so great care is needed in testing for notability. Encourage draftifying and use of the
WP:THREE standard for mainspacing. Also encouraging adding mentions to existing articles, not being mentioned anywhere else in Wikipedia is a strong sign of non-notability. —
SmokeyJoe (
talk)
21:50, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply