Oops, forgot to tick this one off (thanks,
Moonriddengirl!). There was a reason, though: I wondered if anyone had ever looked carefully at the contribs of
the LTA editor responsible. I'd got as far as comparing
this drivel with
this drivel; it looked to me more like close following than outright copyvio. But I did notice that the LTA page mentions "wanton copyright infringement", so I wondered if this needed to be looked at more closely.
Justlettersandnumbers (
talk)
22:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Possibly,
Justlettersandnumbers? And ugh. :/ This is the first time I ever remember seeing a copyvio of his come through, though. So either they're not being found or they were found already. Or, to be honest, I've forgotten. Which can happen. :) --
Moonriddengirl(talk)22:37, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Backwardscopy. Tag and explanation placed at talk page. Fortunately, the copying in this case works the other way around. :) The blog was published in September 2010 and used the content from our article. --
Moonriddengirl(talk)22:05, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, that's what I found too. But ... the content was copied from somewhere. The phrase "scepticism was that the guarantees of the Charter would be illusory if they could be ignored" appears to be taken from the report of Singh v. Minister of Employment and Immigration, [1985]. It appears
here and
here; the first seems to say that court reports are PD (so attribution would be needed?), but the second
seems to say that commercial re-use is not permitted. I wish I had a bigger brain! Can someone tell me if this is OK or not?
Justlettersandnumbers (
talk)
22:45, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi,
Justlettersandnumbers. :) Good find! The question is probably not so much what Canada thinks as what the U.S. does - and, honestly, what the document is that's being quoted. It looks to me like a legal judgment - the decision of disposition of a case by the justices involved - in which case it would be PD use as a binding court decision (regardless of jurisdiction of issue). Is that what it looks like to you? --
Moonriddengirl(talk)15:13, 7 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Moonriddengirl, I'm out of my depth here. I don't know what I'm seeing. What bothers me about this edit is that it appears to introduce PD (I assume) content from at least three court cases without adequate attribution (the phrase "principles of fundamental justice of which s. 7 speaks", without the interpolated "[of the Charter]", is
from Suresh v. Canada (Minister of Immigration), 2002, but is not clearly attributed as such). Without that attribution it's pretty hard to see what if anything does not come from a court report. Perhaps I'm just tilting at windmills?
Justlettersandnumbers (
talk)
20:43, 11 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Oops, forgot to tick this one off (thanks,
Moonriddengirl!). There was a reason, though: I wondered if anyone had ever looked carefully at the contribs of
the LTA editor responsible. I'd got as far as comparing
this drivel with
this drivel; it looked to me more like close following than outright copyvio. But I did notice that the LTA page mentions "wanton copyright infringement", so I wondered if this needed to be looked at more closely.
Justlettersandnumbers (
talk)
22:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Possibly,
Justlettersandnumbers? And ugh. :/ This is the first time I ever remember seeing a copyvio of his come through, though. So either they're not being found or they were found already. Or, to be honest, I've forgotten. Which can happen. :) --
Moonriddengirl(talk)22:37, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Backwardscopy. Tag and explanation placed at talk page. Fortunately, the copying in this case works the other way around. :) The blog was published in September 2010 and used the content from our article. --
Moonriddengirl(talk)22:05, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Yes, that's what I found too. But ... the content was copied from somewhere. The phrase "scepticism was that the guarantees of the Charter would be illusory if they could be ignored" appears to be taken from the report of Singh v. Minister of Employment and Immigration, [1985]. It appears
here and
here; the first seems to say that court reports are PD (so attribution would be needed?), but the second
seems to say that commercial re-use is not permitted. I wish I had a bigger brain! Can someone tell me if this is OK or not?
Justlettersandnumbers (
talk)
22:45, 31 August 2015 (UTC)reply
Hi,
Justlettersandnumbers. :) Good find! The question is probably not so much what Canada thinks as what the U.S. does - and, honestly, what the document is that's being quoted. It looks to me like a legal judgment - the decision of disposition of a case by the justices involved - in which case it would be PD use as a binding court decision (regardless of jurisdiction of issue). Is that what it looks like to you? --
Moonriddengirl(talk)15:13, 7 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Moonriddengirl, I'm out of my depth here. I don't know what I'm seeing. What bothers me about this edit is that it appears to introduce PD (I assume) content from at least three court cases without adequate attribution (the phrase "principles of fundamental justice of which s. 7 speaks", without the interpolated "[of the Charter]", is
from Suresh v. Canada (Minister of Immigration), 2002, but is not clearly attributed as such). Without that attribution it's pretty hard to see what if anything does not come from a court report. Perhaps I'm just tilting at windmills?
Justlettersandnumbers (
talk)
20:43, 11 September 2015 (UTC)reply