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The <categorytree></categorytree> markup has been redundant for a while (ever since all the subcats were included on every page when there are more than 200 pages listed). It cause a very ugly and annoying clutter that is now completely unnecessary. I want to have all these tags rooted out and removed. It tried to get it sorted over at WP:BOTS but they want some sort of discussion on it before doing it. -- Alan Liefting ( talk - contribs) 03:02, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
[[Special:CategoryTree/{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Category tree]]
. I don't know, however, whether this type of change can be implemented locally on en-wiki or requires a
dev update to the MediaWiki software. --
Black Falcon (
talk)
06:45, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
I am requesting comment on a proposal to clarify the scope of the American people by occupation by state category tree. I would highly appreciate comments or suggestions about how we could attempt to address the issues that exist. Thank you, -- Black Falcon ( talk) 22:08, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Can an admin remove Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages from User talk:Kwork2/Archive 3?— Yutsi Talk/ Contributions ( 偉特 ) 01:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed that User:RafikiSykes has unilaterally created numerous subcategories, for example, for Julie Andrews, Elizabeth Taylor and Andy Marray. However, this seems counterproductive for many, if not all cases, in merely adding complexity and more steps for users. It's hard to imagine most people wanting to look at images preferring to filter only images for a particular decade, film or location. In all the cases of such new categories I've viewed, they all strike me as pointless since most of the images fit on a single page already. I think they should be reverted and the subcategories removed. -- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 02:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
I have asked for a deletion review of Category:Actresses. (the category link is currently a redirect).
It may be seen as an unusual DRV, because the relevant CFD took place 6 years. So I thought it fair to list it here. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 10:41, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I created this page, but have probably gone to the limit of my Wikipedia knowledge. Someone has been onto it asking for it to be categorised. Can anyone help?? Thanks Shenko316 ( talk) 16:39, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
It seems that Category:Chinese multilingual support templates should be a subcategory of Category:Multilingual support templates, but I can't find instructions on how to add a category as a subcategory of a category. Likewise Category:Japonic multilingual support templates and Category:Korean name templates. LittleBen ( talk) 00:00, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
I want you to create a page on 'Treatment of Town Water Supply — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.26.220 ( talk) 19:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
I think we should have categories for events, objects, etc. located off planet. categories for near earth orbit, or geostationary orbit, for objects on the moon, on mars. not a lot yet, but since we can categorize earth bound events and objects by their location, why not such off planet? I would start with Category:Events in near-Earth orbit, Category:Events on the Moon, Category:Events on Mars, Category:Objects in near-Earth orbit. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 05:01, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
I was just looking at the World Muaythai Council article and noticed it was in Category:Israeli martial arts. I went to that page and found virtually every martial art is listed there. Is there an easy way to correct that? Papaursa ( talk) 04:20, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This has come up on Twitter, so there will probably be incoming.
At some point the women writers in Category:American Novelists were moved to Category: American Women Novelists. I doubt that it was the intention that "American Novelists" mean exclusively "American Male Novelists" (a presently nonexistent category).
The intent was probably to reduce the number of novelists in the "American Novelists" category; the unfortunate effect is to exclude women novelists from a category to which they belong.
Serpyllum ( talk) 19:08, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
I was looking at our Gideon Macon page (potential COI Notice: I am a direct descendant) and noticed a redlinked category; Macon family, with Frances Jones (colonist), Gideon Macon and Nathaniel Macon in the category.
I would like to fix the redlinks. The question is whether to delete the category on those three pages or to create the category page. I am leaning towards deleting the links because this does not seem like a particularly useful category, but I would like a second opinion.
If the category is created, the following pages also belong in the category:
Uncle Dave Macon --Nathaniel Macon was his great-great-uncle.
Robert B. Macon -- Gideon Macon was his great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather.
The following pages do not:
Robert C. Macon -- his Father was born Edward Newton Meekins, changed it to Macon.
Mark Macon -- I cannot find any ancestry info on him. Possible descendant of a slave owned by a Macon, many of whom took the Macon name.
Max Macon -- he bears a family resemblance, but I cannot find any ancestry info.
Robert le Maçon -- athough there has been speculation, nobody has traced Gideon Macon's ancestry.
--
Guy Macon (
talk)
02:21, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
In the category page for American novelists, the list of individual author articles is so long that a casual reader may think it is intended to be approximately complete. Therefore I have proposed [1] to change the description of the list of individual articles to "This list of individual authors is intended to assist the categorization process; it is not intended to be complete. For a list intended for use by the general public, see List_of_American_novelists [9]." I would appreciate comments on this proposal. Olorinish ( talk) 12:18, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
I've made some edits/clarifications to the category guidance - the diffs can be seen here. Please take a look and send any comments to Wikipedia_talk:Categorization#May 2013 changes to guidance. -- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 16:13, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
The category "Childhood-related LGBT films" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Childhood_LGBT-related_films ) is dominated by films that are actually about pedophiles seducing children. IMHO, films that are primarily about that type of relationship are not correctly identified as being LGBT. Either way, rather than having an argument on the page where two people who have different ideas simply spout their viewpoint, I thought it worthwhile to bring this up as a categorization issue. In a controversial proposal such as this category is implicitly making, I would think it would be crucial that the categorization is based on something other than OR or personal convictions one way or the other. Therefore, I would think that such a category should be refrained from unless reliable, objective sources can be found to give us a guideline other than disparate people's own subjective conclusions regarding the issue. The issue is emotionally close to me and so for the sake of objectivity I usually avoid editing such topics myself. I am bringing this to your attention because I do believe that this categorization cannot exist without making certain non-neutral claims about adult-child sexual relationships. Categories regarding juvenile sexuality in film and pedophilia already exist and allow for a listing of these films without making claims as to whether child abuse is correctly considered an LGBT relationship. Thank you for considering this and please accept my apologies if I have come across as less than dispassionate. No matter what the conclusion, please know that as I have made the issue known to the broader community I will not myself be involved in the issue any longer. Wickedjacob ( talk) 20:22, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Some templates, e.g., {{ BLP self-published}}, are missing documentation and hence categorization. I wanted to add the missing category, but would not be comfortable filling in the rest of the documentation. I would like to indicate that the documentation is a stub, but could not find such a 'doc-stub'. Perhaps I should make an admin request?
I found that I could use {{ no documentation}} Dpleibovitz ( talk) 16:32, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
PS. Why are templates categorized in their documentation? Dpleibovitz ( talk) 15:29, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Categorization#Categorizing pages we should put articles in the lowest category in hierarchy possible. I mean: "if a page belongs to a subcategory of C (or a subcategory of a subcategory of C, and so on) then it is not normally placed directly into C." That's why IMHO article like Hidden & Dangerous should be put only in Category:2k Czech games and not in parent category Category:Video games developed in the Czech Republic (like here was done: [2]). I would be glad for any comments concerning this situation. Thanks, Sir Lothar ( talk) 08:52, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
This editor keeps removing article with the title "Port of city in England" from the category Category:Ports and harbours of England by city on the basis of some text left on the category page some time ago. Their edits completely defeat the point of the category.
They will not listen to me, do not seem to understand the idea that categories are not necessarily mutually exclusive, and claim that there is some 'consensus' for what they are doing. Prof.Haddock ( talk) 18:38, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
![]() | This page is currently inactive and is retained for
historical reference. Either the page is no longer relevant or consensus on its purpose has become unclear. To revive discussion, seek broader input via a forum such as the village pump. |
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The <categorytree></categorytree> markup has been redundant for a while (ever since all the subcats were included on every page when there are more than 200 pages listed). It cause a very ugly and annoying clutter that is now completely unnecessary. I want to have all these tags rooted out and removed. It tried to get it sorted over at WP:BOTS but they want some sort of discussion on it before doing it. -- Alan Liefting ( talk - contribs) 03:02, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
[[Special:CategoryTree/{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Category tree]]
. I don't know, however, whether this type of change can be implemented locally on en-wiki or requires a
dev update to the MediaWiki software. --
Black Falcon (
talk)
06:45, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
I am requesting comment on a proposal to clarify the scope of the American people by occupation by state category tree. I would highly appreciate comments or suggestions about how we could attempt to address the issues that exist. Thank you, -- Black Falcon ( talk) 22:08, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Can an admin remove Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages from User talk:Kwork2/Archive 3?— Yutsi Talk/ Contributions ( 偉特 ) 01:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed that User:RafikiSykes has unilaterally created numerous subcategories, for example, for Julie Andrews, Elizabeth Taylor and Andy Marray. However, this seems counterproductive for many, if not all cases, in merely adding complexity and more steps for users. It's hard to imagine most people wanting to look at images preferring to filter only images for a particular decade, film or location. In all the cases of such new categories I've viewed, they all strike me as pointless since most of the images fit on a single page already. I think they should be reverted and the subcategories removed. -- Wikiwatcher1 ( talk) 02:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
I have asked for a deletion review of Category:Actresses. (the category link is currently a redirect).
It may be seen as an unusual DRV, because the relevant CFD took place 6 years. So I thought it fair to list it here. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 10:41, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I created this page, but have probably gone to the limit of my Wikipedia knowledge. Someone has been onto it asking for it to be categorised. Can anyone help?? Thanks Shenko316 ( talk) 16:39, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
It seems that Category:Chinese multilingual support templates should be a subcategory of Category:Multilingual support templates, but I can't find instructions on how to add a category as a subcategory of a category. Likewise Category:Japonic multilingual support templates and Category:Korean name templates. LittleBen ( talk) 00:00, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
I want you to create a page on 'Treatment of Town Water Supply — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.26.220 ( talk) 19:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
I think we should have categories for events, objects, etc. located off planet. categories for near earth orbit, or geostationary orbit, for objects on the moon, on mars. not a lot yet, but since we can categorize earth bound events and objects by their location, why not such off planet? I would start with Category:Events in near-Earth orbit, Category:Events on the Moon, Category:Events on Mars, Category:Objects in near-Earth orbit. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 05:01, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
I was just looking at the World Muaythai Council article and noticed it was in Category:Israeli martial arts. I went to that page and found virtually every martial art is listed there. Is there an easy way to correct that? Papaursa ( talk) 04:20, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This has come up on Twitter, so there will probably be incoming.
At some point the women writers in Category:American Novelists were moved to Category: American Women Novelists. I doubt that it was the intention that "American Novelists" mean exclusively "American Male Novelists" (a presently nonexistent category).
The intent was probably to reduce the number of novelists in the "American Novelists" category; the unfortunate effect is to exclude women novelists from a category to which they belong.
Serpyllum ( talk) 19:08, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
I was looking at our Gideon Macon page (potential COI Notice: I am a direct descendant) and noticed a redlinked category; Macon family, with Frances Jones (colonist), Gideon Macon and Nathaniel Macon in the category.
I would like to fix the redlinks. The question is whether to delete the category on those three pages or to create the category page. I am leaning towards deleting the links because this does not seem like a particularly useful category, but I would like a second opinion.
If the category is created, the following pages also belong in the category:
Uncle Dave Macon --Nathaniel Macon was his great-great-uncle.
Robert B. Macon -- Gideon Macon was his great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather.
The following pages do not:
Robert C. Macon -- his Father was born Edward Newton Meekins, changed it to Macon.
Mark Macon -- I cannot find any ancestry info on him. Possible descendant of a slave owned by a Macon, many of whom took the Macon name.
Max Macon -- he bears a family resemblance, but I cannot find any ancestry info.
Robert le Maçon -- athough there has been speculation, nobody has traced Gideon Macon's ancestry.
--
Guy Macon (
talk)
02:21, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
In the category page for American novelists, the list of individual author articles is so long that a casual reader may think it is intended to be approximately complete. Therefore I have proposed [1] to change the description of the list of individual articles to "This list of individual authors is intended to assist the categorization process; it is not intended to be complete. For a list intended for use by the general public, see List_of_American_novelists [9]." I would appreciate comments on this proposal. Olorinish ( talk) 12:18, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
I've made some edits/clarifications to the category guidance - the diffs can be seen here. Please take a look and send any comments to Wikipedia_talk:Categorization#May 2013 changes to guidance. -- Obi-Wan Kenobi ( talk) 16:13, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
The category "Childhood-related LGBT films" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Childhood_LGBT-related_films ) is dominated by films that are actually about pedophiles seducing children. IMHO, films that are primarily about that type of relationship are not correctly identified as being LGBT. Either way, rather than having an argument on the page where two people who have different ideas simply spout their viewpoint, I thought it worthwhile to bring this up as a categorization issue. In a controversial proposal such as this category is implicitly making, I would think it would be crucial that the categorization is based on something other than OR or personal convictions one way or the other. Therefore, I would think that such a category should be refrained from unless reliable, objective sources can be found to give us a guideline other than disparate people's own subjective conclusions regarding the issue. The issue is emotionally close to me and so for the sake of objectivity I usually avoid editing such topics myself. I am bringing this to your attention because I do believe that this categorization cannot exist without making certain non-neutral claims about adult-child sexual relationships. Categories regarding juvenile sexuality in film and pedophilia already exist and allow for a listing of these films without making claims as to whether child abuse is correctly considered an LGBT relationship. Thank you for considering this and please accept my apologies if I have come across as less than dispassionate. No matter what the conclusion, please know that as I have made the issue known to the broader community I will not myself be involved in the issue any longer. Wickedjacob ( talk) 20:22, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Some templates, e.g., {{ BLP self-published}}, are missing documentation and hence categorization. I wanted to add the missing category, but would not be comfortable filling in the rest of the documentation. I would like to indicate that the documentation is a stub, but could not find such a 'doc-stub'. Perhaps I should make an admin request?
I found that I could use {{ no documentation}} Dpleibovitz ( talk) 16:32, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
PS. Why are templates categorized in their documentation? Dpleibovitz ( talk) 15:29, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia:Categorization#Categorizing pages we should put articles in the lowest category in hierarchy possible. I mean: "if a page belongs to a subcategory of C (or a subcategory of a subcategory of C, and so on) then it is not normally placed directly into C." That's why IMHO article like Hidden & Dangerous should be put only in Category:2k Czech games and not in parent category Category:Video games developed in the Czech Republic (like here was done: [2]). I would be glad for any comments concerning this situation. Thanks, Sir Lothar ( talk) 08:52, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
This editor keeps removing article with the title "Port of city in England" from the category Category:Ports and harbours of England by city on the basis of some text left on the category page some time ago. Their edits completely defeat the point of the category.
They will not listen to me, do not seem to understand the idea that categories are not necessarily mutually exclusive, and claim that there is some 'consensus' for what they are doing. Prof.Haddock ( talk) 18:38, 12 November 2013 (UTC)