Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:Wives of Holy Roman Emperors
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:People from Spanish Puerto Rico.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:People of colonial Puerto Rico to Category:People from Spanish Puerto Rico
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping categories Mason ( talk) 22:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge, two categories with the same scope. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:33, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:People executed by Russia.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:People executed by pre-Soviet Russia to Category:People executed by Russia
- Nominator's rationale: only one category in it Mason ( talk) 21:54, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT family is a father son pair Mason ( talk) 21:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: small family cat; 2 people. Mason ( talk) 21:33, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:36, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
19:58, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:FIFA World Cup-winning players to Category:FIFA World Cup–winning players
- Nominator's rationale: Per MOS:SUFFIXDASH. ‑‑ Neveselbert ( talk · contribs · email) 21:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- I thought that in team sports we only categorize winning teams, not winning players. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:38, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support as per MOS:SUFFIXDASH. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 08:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Marcocapelle. A list article, a team template at the bottom of the page, a prominent mention in infobox, another prominent one in page introduction plus, in general, a long development or paragraph dedicated to the World Cup winning campaign are imho sufficient to convey the notion. WP:CLNT applies, as does WP:PERFCAT. Place Clichy ( talk) 08:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Giant Snowman 15:09, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete not needed. Giant Snowman 15:10, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Marcocapelle. House Blaster talk 17:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: moot given the category has been deleted. Participants are welcome to open a CfD for Category:Immigrants to Prussia if they feel it should be renamed. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: We *just* closed this category as merged.
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_1#Category:Immigrants_to_the_Kingdom_of_Prussia
Mason (
talk)
21:05, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think that we're going to have to start creating redirects for any categories that @ Johnpacklambert creates, to prevent having to keep remerging categories. Mason ( talk) 21:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Category has been emptied, primarily by the JJMC89 bot. Liz Read! Talk! 01:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- @ Smasongarrison: I am re-reading my comment of previous time and I am realizing that a reverse merge might have been more appropriate. Prussia was a rather insignificant duchy in Poland but it grew to a powerful kingdom in middle Europe where Prussia proper was its most eastern province. It is useful to stress that we are not talking about Prussia proper. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Grenadian LGBT people by occupation to Category:Grenadian LGBT people
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge as there's only one category in here Mason ( talk) 20:56, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 22:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 01:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Barbadian emigrants.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:37, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Barbados to Category:Barbadian emigrants
- Nominator's rationale: regime for emigrants isn't defining in this case Mason ( talk) 20:51, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 22:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete, functionally the same as splitting.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
13:50, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Sephardi politicians to Category:Jewish politicians and Category:Sephardi Jews
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection. Jewish politician categories are broken down by nationality, not specific ethic origin. Mason ( talk) 20:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Agree in principle, but Delete in practice as all 10 articles are already in more precise Jewish politicians and Sephardi categories:
- 3 are in Jewish Tunisian politicians ( Georges Adda, Joseph Bismuth, René Trabelsi
- 3 in Jewish Bahraini politicians ( Nancy Khedouri, Ebrahim Daoud Nonoo, Houda Nonoo)
- 3 in Israeli Sephardi Jews and respectively Jewish Romanian politicians, Jewish Gibraltarian politicians, and Jewish Israeli politicians ( Mișu Benvenisti, Fleur Hassan-Nahoum, Moshe Lion)
- For Dalya Attar I count no less that 3 Jewish politics categories (incl. Jewish American state legislators in Maryland) and 7 Sephardi or Mizrahi-related ones.
- Arguably there are more than 10 Sephardi politicians with Wikipedia articles, but they are more efficiently categorized by other means. Place Clichy ( talk) 22:49, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Place Clichy. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:51, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:38, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, the
Geuzen/Sea beggars precede the regular army of the Dutch Republic.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
19:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- support per nom Mason ( talk) 20:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: split.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
19:59, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Chitral District to Category:Upper Chitral District and Category:Lower Chitral District
- Nominator's rationale: How can the entire framework regarding Chitral District be out of date when it was split into Upper and Lower Chitral District in 2018? – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 18:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Wow! And all subcategories need to split too... Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Companies of the State of Palestine. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:38, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: These categories seem to be overlapping. I don't know enough about the nuances to untangle their relationship.
Mason (
talk)
17:55, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge The standard naming convention in Category:Companies by country is Companies of X. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 18:33, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per LaundryPizza03. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:36, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to the targets suggested in the nomination.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:40, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Rectors of universities and colleges in Colombia to Category:Heads of universities and colleges in Colombia
- Propose merging Category:Rectors of universities in Colombia to Category:Heads of universities and colleges in Colombia
- Propose merging Category:Heads of universities in Colombia to Category:Heads of universities and colleges in Colombia
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason ( talk) 17:34, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 18:26, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Smasongarrison and
Place Clichy: do you mean rename instead of merge?
Marcocapelle (
talk)
18:38, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- yes, merge/rename. Mason ( talk) 18:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- 👍 Place Clichy ( talk) 08:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:Aden emigrants to the United Kingdom
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Barbadian emigrants to the United States. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:43, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: regime for emigrants isn't defining in this case Mason ( talk) 17:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 18:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People excommunicated by Eastern Orthodox Church bodies. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 13:52, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: merge, there is no church body with the name Greek Orthodox Church and it is not always clear by which exact church body/bodies of the Eastern Orthodox Church these people have been excommunicated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Update, I nominated the target for speedy renaming to Category:People excommunicated by Eastern Orthodox Church bodies. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to the renamed target per Marcocapelle. Place Clichy ( talk) 18:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 31#Category:Greek Orthodox Christians from Lebanon
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- The result of the discussion was: merge all. ( non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow • talk 20:48, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Engineers from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand engineers
- Propose merging Category:Musicians from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand musicians
- Propose merging Category:Writers from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand writers
- Propose merging Category:Scientists from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand scientists
- Propose merging Category:Lawyers from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand lawyers
- Propose merging Category:Businesspeople from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand businesspeople
- Propose merging Category:Artists from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand artists
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category where regime isn't defining. nz is a colony during the 19th century. Mason ( talk) 14:57, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge, there is no benefit in splitting the 19th century categories in pre- and post-1841. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:50, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:13, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom ("Colony of NZ" could mean 1841 to 1908?) Hugo999 ( talk) 04:02, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Cats serve no useful purpose. Paora ( talk) 12:48, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per my comments a few months ago at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 28#Category:Immigrants to the Colony of New Zealand. Nurg ( talk) 07:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge/rename all as nominated (prepositional phrase -> adjective).
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
13:55, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Expatriates from the Colony of Jamaica in Canada to Category:Jamaican expatriates in Canada
- Propose merging Category:Expatriates from the Colony of Jamaica in the United States to Category:Jamaican expatriates in the United States
- Propose merging Category:Expatriates from the Colony of Jamaica to Category:Jamaican expatriates
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to the United States to Category:Jamaican emigrants to the United States
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to the United Kingdom to Category:Jamaican emigrants to the United Kingdom
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to France to Category:Jamaican emigrants to France
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to Canada to Category:Jamaican emigrants to Canada
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to Category:Jamaican emigrants
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category were regime isn't defining for emigrants/expatriates. Mason ( talk) 14:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge (or rename) per nom. 'Jamaican' is an appropriate way to describe someone from Jamaica. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:19, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Colony of the Bahamas people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 13:58, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The only person in the category was scottish and born in the Bahamas Mason ( talk) 14:32, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge, one may assume that almost all articles in Category:Colony of the Bahamas people are about British people or people of British descent. A category about indigenous people may be more helpful, if it can be populated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:55, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 14:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only two subcategories, and soon only one of them will be left. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:59, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom Mason ( talk) 14:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- As I wrote before at CFDS, at a minimum this needs to go to Category:Construction Nautic Edel because Edel does not short-circuit to this company in the main space. -- Joy ( talk) 18:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. It is more useful to have biats categorized in a boats-by-builder category than empty categories like that. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:20, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Viceroyalty of Peru people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 14:01, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category. This is an alternative name for the Viceroyalty of New Granada (The Viceroyalty of New Granada (Spanish: Virreinato de Nueva Granada [birejˈnato ðe ˈnweβa ɣɾaˈnaða]🔈) also called Viceroyalty of the New Kingdom of Granada or Viceroyalty of Santafé ) Mason ( talk) 01:30, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- A potential different target is
Category:Viceroyalty of Peru people. The
New Kingdom of Granada (until 1717) was subordinate to the
Viceroyalty of Peru while the
Viceroyalty of New Granada was a viceroyalty in its own right.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
03:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ahh, good catch. Maybe manual merge?
Mason (
talk)
17:50, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- It does not require a manual merge, we just need to align on the proper merge target. Merging to Category:Viceroyalty of New Granada people is inaccurate but more recognizable, I don't have a strong preference. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:44, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ahh, good catch. Maybe manual merge?
Mason (
talk)
17:50, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 09:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- By lack of anyone else reacting, I would propose to go for accuracy, i.e. to merge to
Category:Viceroyalty of Peru people.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
16:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Mason ( talk) 17:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:American serial killers by state
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:Painters from the Republic of Venice
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- The result of the discussion was: delete per
C1.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
20:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Restaurants serving Chinese cuisine to Category:Chinese restaurants
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of
Category:Chinese restaurants; see other duplicate categories in
Category:Restaurants by cuisine. --
Another Believer (
Talk)
16:14, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- No objection to merging, but I think restaurants serving Chinese cuisine is maybe more precise, and when we look at other cuisines it's even more of a problem of imprecision...what is a Southern restaurant, for instance? But Restaurants serving Southern cuisine is fairly precise. Ethnic restaurants is kind of western-centric, as "ethnic" is a relative term. Is an American-style burger place an "ethnic" restaurant? It might seem like it in Nigeria.
Valereee (
talk)
16:23, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Then perhaps a discussion about Category:Ethnic restaurants is more appropriate. But the "restaurants serving" categories are currently duplicates, except for Category:Restaurants serving Eastern European cuisine, which I've proposed renaming to Category:Eastern European restaurants above for consistency. I'm glad to see the category structure being discussed again, because I too would prefer to see subcategories by cuisine, not necessarily ethnicity. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:18, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- No objection to merging, but I think restaurants serving Chinese cuisine is maybe more precise, and when we look at other cuisines it's even more of a problem of imprecision...what is a Southern restaurant, for instance? But Restaurants serving Southern cuisine is fairly precise. Ethnic restaurants is kind of western-centric, as "ethnic" is a relative term. Is an American-style burger place an "ethnic" restaurant? It might seem like it in Nigeria.
Valereee (
talk)
16:23, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom (or else reverse merge). If this is to be renamed to "serving" then the entire tree should be nominated, better leave that to another occasion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:29, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 04:36, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Chinese restaurants. There is little ambiguity to what is a Chinese restaurant (or an Italian restaurant etc.). The category even has a hatnote redirecting to Category:Restaurants in China if someone has a doubt. Keep things simple and use common names. I agree that we could maybe rename Category:Ethnic restaurants to something other than ethnic, such as e.g. Restaurants by culture, but I disagree that it is a Western notion to categorize restaurants by culture. After all, there is a Category:European restaurants (and there should be). Place Clichy ( talk) 10:15, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
-
Place Clichy, there is nothing to Merge. As I stated, it's been emptied.
Liz
Read!
Talk!
01:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Liz: from what I can see in
page history, it seems that within the same hour:
- A user created Category:Restaurants serving Chinese cuisine and added two pages to it
- A second user reverted this addition on the restaurants' pages, with edit comments such as see Chinese restaurants in Canada
- This second user opened this CfD discussion.
- I can only approve each of the actions above, clearly in the spirit of WP:BRD. I think that the nominator was right to open a discussion, even for an empty category, because it is not entirely moot to look for community consensus showing that this creation attempt is redundant with existing categories that are judged to be better-named, instead of just a technical deletion. Another possible road would have been for the creator to open a move discussion in the first place, but you can't blame users to be bold. Place Clichy ( talk) 09:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Liz: from what I can see in
page history, it seems that within the same hour:
-
Place Clichy, there is nothing to Merge. As I stated, it's been emptied.
Liz
Read!
Talk!
01:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The articles Sun Wah BBQ and Cuisine AuntDai were the previous contents of the category, before the nom removed them.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 09:32, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Answer to relisting comment: the two articles were the "previous contents of the category" for precisely 55 and 60 minutes, respectively. I don't really know what lesson we can take from that. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This is an empty category,
Qwerfjkl. I'm not sure why this discussion needed to be relisted. There is nothing to move or merge.
Liz
Read!
Talk!
01:36, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Liz, in order to discuss, for example, the possibility of a reverse merge. Qwerfjkl talk 19:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Maybe I should have made this comment at the beginning of this discussion but there were about a dozen similar "Restaurants serving X cuisine" categories created at the same time and the others have been deleted for being empty as CSD C1 speedy deletions. This is the only one remaining from that group. Liz Read! Talk! 01:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Eastern European restaurants. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:01, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with other categories in Category:Restaurants by cuisine -- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:11, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Support per nom. I do not have an objection against "serving" per se, but it is not the current convention. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:Noble families in the British Isles
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- The result of the discussion was: delete.
✗
plicit
23:30, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Writers from Nepal to Category:Nepalese writers
- Propose merging Category:Musicians from Nepal to Category:Nepalese musicians
- Propose merging Category:Songwriters from Nepal to Category:Nepalese songwriters
- Propose merging Category:Singer-songwriters from Nepal to Category:Nepalese singer-songwriters
- Propose merging Category:Singers from Nepal to Category:Nepalese singers
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category
Mason (
talk)
19:48, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect: sorry it’s my mistake for creating this mess. I was sadly guided by Category:Singers from California, the wrong category for nationality. I tried to rectify the situation by change the categories to redirects but did not remove the discussion template FuzzyMagma ( talk) 21:35, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Creator has already implemented the merge manually. Speedy delete per WP:G7. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:43, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Delete or redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 09:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
FuzzyMagma: a redirect isn't really useful, is it?
Marcocapelle (
talk)
12:23, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle I did it because I thought it will help the situation but if you disagree let me what will be the alternative
FuzzyMagma (
talk)
12:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
FuzzyMagma: the alternative is just delete.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
16:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- let me do that then FuzzyMagma ( talk) 16:10, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
FuzzyMagma: the alternative is just delete.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
16:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle I did it because I thought it will help the situation but if you disagree let me what will be the alternative
FuzzyMagma (
talk)
12:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason ( talk) 21:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- I would prefer the other way around because "colonial" appears to be ambiguous:
Category:Colonial people of German East Africa also contains non-Germans. So the alt proposal is: Split
Category:Colonial people of German East Africa to
Category:German people in German East Africa and
Category:People from German East Africa.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
10:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'd support the reverse. I personally think we should be using German expatriates in German FOO; however, I know I'm in the minority on that, and thus concede to the wiki consensus. Mason ( talk) 14:25, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:04, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: rename, slightly odd grammar, the format of the subcategories is more natural. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Rename per nom. House Blaster talk 23:02, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Turkic people.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose dual merging Category:Turkic slaves to Category:Slaves and Category:Turkic people
- Nominator's rationale: This one was missed when the bulk of Turkic people categories were deleted. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_7#Category:Turkic_rulers Mason ( talk) 23:57, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Language family is not defining for slaves, and these articles are better defined by other descriptors, such as Mamluks, Seljuks or Ghurids. Place Clichy ( talk) 00:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, but only to Category:Turkic people. The articles are already in the tree of Category:Slaves by century. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:59, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: What do we really need this category for when we already have
an article? Moreover, the term is very confusing and subjective.
Kailash29792
(talk)
08:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, per nom. Jayanthkumar123 ( talk) 07:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, not a defining characteristic of any of these films. (The fact that an article exists is not a convincing argument.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. NaanReady ( talk) 15:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Jamaican planters.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Planters of Jamaica to Category:Jamaican planters
- Nominator's rationale: duplicate category Mason ( talk) 04:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Thanks Mason for finding so many duplicates.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
06:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! (I'm blatantly procrastinating an article revision and packing for a move this week 😁 ) Mason ( talk) 14:10, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:Paintings by Henri Biva
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: small cat (n = 2) with epon family page Mason ( talk) 04:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:11, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Families of Czech ancestry.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Families of Czech descent to Category:Families of Czech ancestry
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping categories Mason ( talk) 04:16, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Admittedly it is confusing that we categorize individuals by "descent" but families by "ancestry". Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:13, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:English expatriates in Taormina, Sicily
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to
Category:Provinces of Finland (1917–1997).
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Provinces of Finland (1917–97) to Category:Provinces of Finland (1917–1997)
- Nominator's rationale: norm is to use the full year Mason ( talk) 01:26, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. This could have been listed at WP:CFDS as a C2B nomination. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:19, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: C1 declined on 11 October by Liz. This category contains only itself and is contained only in itself, and there is no indication of what should be contained in it (how does one solve an anniversary?). –
dudhhr
talk
contribssheher
01:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 01:27, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, this is close to WP:G1. I think the speedy request would have been succesful if nom had removed the self-reference in advance. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Soviet cartoonists.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Cartoonists from the Soviet Union to Category:Soviet cartoonists
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason ( talk) 00:47, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:25, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Nobody mentioned a merge target. Marcocapelle implies the sole article is already in his merge target; Smasongarrison, you are welcome to add Danyang Pi clan to an appropriate category if you had one in mind. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:10, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: only one page in it, the main article
toobigtokale (
talk)
00:16, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Should be speedy merged. Mason ( talk) 01:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete/merge (in this case these two actions have the same effect). Mason is right that this could have been listed at speedy as a case of WP:C2F. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:Wives of Holy Roman Emperors
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:People from Spanish Puerto Rico.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:People of colonial Puerto Rico to Category:People from Spanish Puerto Rico
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping categories Mason ( talk) 22:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge, two categories with the same scope. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:33, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:People executed by Russia.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:People executed by pre-Soviet Russia to Category:People executed by Russia
- Nominator's rationale: only one category in it Mason ( talk) 21:54, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT family is a father son pair Mason ( talk) 21:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: small family cat; 2 people. Mason ( talk) 21:33, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:36, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 00:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
19:58, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:FIFA World Cup-winning players to Category:FIFA World Cup–winning players
- Nominator's rationale: Per MOS:SUFFIXDASH. ‑‑ Neveselbert ( talk · contribs · email) 21:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- I thought that in team sports we only categorize winning teams, not winning players. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:38, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support as per MOS:SUFFIXDASH. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 08:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Marcocapelle. A list article, a team template at the bottom of the page, a prominent mention in infobox, another prominent one in page introduction plus, in general, a long development or paragraph dedicated to the World Cup winning campaign are imho sufficient to convey the notion. WP:CLNT applies, as does WP:PERFCAT. Place Clichy ( talk) 08:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Giant Snowman 15:09, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete not needed. Giant Snowman 15:10, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Marcocapelle. House Blaster talk 17:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: moot given the category has been deleted. Participants are welcome to open a CfD for Category:Immigrants to Prussia if they feel it should be renamed. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: We *just* closed this category as merged.
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_1#Category:Immigrants_to_the_Kingdom_of_Prussia
Mason (
talk)
21:05, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think that we're going to have to start creating redirects for any categories that @ Johnpacklambert creates, to prevent having to keep remerging categories. Mason ( talk) 21:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Category has been emptied, primarily by the JJMC89 bot. Liz Read! Talk! 01:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- @ Smasongarrison: I am re-reading my comment of previous time and I am realizing that a reverse merge might have been more appropriate. Prussia was a rather insignificant duchy in Poland but it grew to a powerful kingdom in middle Europe where Prussia proper was its most eastern province. It is useful to stress that we are not talking about Prussia proper. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Grenadian LGBT people by occupation to Category:Grenadian LGBT people
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge as there's only one category in here Mason ( talk) 20:56, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 22:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 01:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Barbadian emigrants.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:37, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Barbados to Category:Barbadian emigrants
- Nominator's rationale: regime for emigrants isn't defining in this case Mason ( talk) 20:51, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 22:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete, functionally the same as splitting.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
13:50, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Sephardi politicians to Category:Jewish politicians and Category:Sephardi Jews
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection. Jewish politician categories are broken down by nationality, not specific ethic origin. Mason ( talk) 20:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Agree in principle, but Delete in practice as all 10 articles are already in more precise Jewish politicians and Sephardi categories:
- 3 are in Jewish Tunisian politicians ( Georges Adda, Joseph Bismuth, René Trabelsi
- 3 in Jewish Bahraini politicians ( Nancy Khedouri, Ebrahim Daoud Nonoo, Houda Nonoo)
- 3 in Israeli Sephardi Jews and respectively Jewish Romanian politicians, Jewish Gibraltarian politicians, and Jewish Israeli politicians ( Mișu Benvenisti, Fleur Hassan-Nahoum, Moshe Lion)
- For Dalya Attar I count no less that 3 Jewish politics categories (incl. Jewish American state legislators in Maryland) and 7 Sephardi or Mizrahi-related ones.
- Arguably there are more than 10 Sephardi politicians with Wikipedia articles, but they are more efficiently categorized by other means. Place Clichy ( talk) 22:49, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Place Clichy. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:51, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:38, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, the
Geuzen/Sea beggars precede the regular army of the Dutch Republic.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
19:48, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- support per nom Mason ( talk) 20:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: split.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
19:59, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Chitral District to Category:Upper Chitral District and Category:Lower Chitral District
- Nominator's rationale: How can the entire framework regarding Chitral District be out of date when it was split into Upper and Lower Chitral District in 2018? – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 18:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Wow! And all subcategories need to split too... Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Companies of the State of Palestine. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:38, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: These categories seem to be overlapping. I don't know enough about the nuances to untangle their relationship.
Mason (
talk)
17:55, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge The standard naming convention in Category:Companies by country is Companies of X. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 18:33, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per LaundryPizza03. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:36, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to the targets suggested in the nomination.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
17:40, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Rectors of universities and colleges in Colombia to Category:Heads of universities and colleges in Colombia
- Propose merging Category:Rectors of universities in Colombia to Category:Heads of universities and colleges in Colombia
- Propose merging Category:Heads of universities in Colombia to Category:Heads of universities and colleges in Colombia
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason ( talk) 17:34, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 18:26, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Smasongarrison and
Place Clichy: do you mean rename instead of merge?
Marcocapelle (
talk)
18:38, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- yes, merge/rename. Mason ( talk) 18:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- 👍 Place Clichy ( talk) 08:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Barbadian emigrants to the United States. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 17:43, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: regime for emigrants isn't defining in this case Mason ( talk) 17:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 18:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People excommunicated by Eastern Orthodox Church bodies. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 13:52, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: merge, there is no church body with the name Greek Orthodox Church and it is not always clear by which exact church body/bodies of the Eastern Orthodox Church these people have been excommunicated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Update, I nominated the target for speedy renaming to Category:People excommunicated by Eastern Orthodox Church bodies. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to the renamed target per Marcocapelle. Place Clichy ( talk) 18:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge all. ( non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow • talk 20:48, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Engineers from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand engineers
- Propose merging Category:Musicians from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand musicians
- Propose merging Category:Writers from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand writers
- Propose merging Category:Scientists from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand scientists
- Propose merging Category:Lawyers from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand lawyers
- Propose merging Category:Businesspeople from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand businesspeople
- Propose merging Category:Artists from the Colony of New Zealand to Category:19th-century New Zealand artists
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category where regime isn't defining. nz is a colony during the 19th century. Mason ( talk) 14:57, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge, there is no benefit in splitting the 19th century categories in pre- and post-1841. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:50, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:13, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom ("Colony of NZ" could mean 1841 to 1908?) Hugo999 ( talk) 04:02, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Cats serve no useful purpose. Paora ( talk) 12:48, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per my comments a few months ago at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 28#Category:Immigrants to the Colony of New Zealand. Nurg ( talk) 07:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge/rename all as nominated (prepositional phrase -> adjective).
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
13:55, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Expatriates from the Colony of Jamaica in Canada to Category:Jamaican expatriates in Canada
- Propose merging Category:Expatriates from the Colony of Jamaica in the United States to Category:Jamaican expatriates in the United States
- Propose merging Category:Expatriates from the Colony of Jamaica to Category:Jamaican expatriates
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to the United States to Category:Jamaican emigrants to the United States
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to the United Kingdom to Category:Jamaican emigrants to the United Kingdom
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to France to Category:Jamaican emigrants to France
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to Canada to Category:Jamaican emigrants to Canada
- Propose merging Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to Category:Jamaican emigrants
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category were regime isn't defining for emigrants/expatriates. Mason ( talk) 14:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge (or rename) per nom. 'Jamaican' is an appropriate way to describe someone from Jamaica. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:19, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Colony of the Bahamas people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 13:58, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The only person in the category was scottish and born in the Bahamas Mason ( talk) 14:32, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge, one may assume that almost all articles in Category:Colony of the Bahamas people are about British people or people of British descent. A category about indigenous people may be more helpful, if it can be populated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:55, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 14:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only two subcategories, and soon only one of them will be left. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:59, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom Mason ( talk) 14:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- As I wrote before at CFDS, at a minimum this needs to go to Category:Construction Nautic Edel because Edel does not short-circuit to this company in the main space. -- Joy ( talk) 18:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. It is more useful to have biats categorized in a boats-by-builder category than empty categories like that. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:20, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Viceroyalty of Peru people. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 14:01, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category. This is an alternative name for the Viceroyalty of New Granada (The Viceroyalty of New Granada (Spanish: Virreinato de Nueva Granada [birejˈnato ðe ˈnweβa ɣɾaˈnaða]🔈) also called Viceroyalty of the New Kingdom of Granada or Viceroyalty of Santafé ) Mason ( talk) 01:30, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- A potential different target is
Category:Viceroyalty of Peru people. The
New Kingdom of Granada (until 1717) was subordinate to the
Viceroyalty of Peru while the
Viceroyalty of New Granada was a viceroyalty in its own right.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
03:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ahh, good catch. Maybe manual merge?
Mason (
talk)
17:50, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- It does not require a manual merge, we just need to align on the proper merge target. Merging to Category:Viceroyalty of New Granada people is inaccurate but more recognizable, I don't have a strong preference. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:44, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ahh, good catch. Maybe manual merge?
Mason (
talk)
17:50, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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- By lack of anyone else reacting, I would propose to go for accuracy, i.e. to merge to
Category:Viceroyalty of Peru people.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
16:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Mason ( talk) 17:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Relisted, see
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C1.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
20:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Restaurants serving Chinese cuisine to Category:Chinese restaurants
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of
Category:Chinese restaurants; see other duplicate categories in
Category:Restaurants by cuisine. --
Another Believer (
Talk)
16:14, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- No objection to merging, but I think restaurants serving Chinese cuisine is maybe more precise, and when we look at other cuisines it's even more of a problem of imprecision...what is a Southern restaurant, for instance? But Restaurants serving Southern cuisine is fairly precise. Ethnic restaurants is kind of western-centric, as "ethnic" is a relative term. Is an American-style burger place an "ethnic" restaurant? It might seem like it in Nigeria.
Valereee (
talk)
16:23, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Then perhaps a discussion about Category:Ethnic restaurants is more appropriate. But the "restaurants serving" categories are currently duplicates, except for Category:Restaurants serving Eastern European cuisine, which I've proposed renaming to Category:Eastern European restaurants above for consistency. I'm glad to see the category structure being discussed again, because I too would prefer to see subcategories by cuisine, not necessarily ethnicity. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:18, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- No objection to merging, but I think restaurants serving Chinese cuisine is maybe more precise, and when we look at other cuisines it's even more of a problem of imprecision...what is a Southern restaurant, for instance? But Restaurants serving Southern cuisine is fairly precise. Ethnic restaurants is kind of western-centric, as "ethnic" is a relative term. Is an American-style burger place an "ethnic" restaurant? It might seem like it in Nigeria.
Valereee (
talk)
16:23, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom (or else reverse merge). If this is to be renamed to "serving" then the entire tree should be nominated, better leave that to another occasion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:29, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 04:36, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Chinese restaurants. There is little ambiguity to what is a Chinese restaurant (or an Italian restaurant etc.). The category even has a hatnote redirecting to Category:Restaurants in China if someone has a doubt. Keep things simple and use common names. I agree that we could maybe rename Category:Ethnic restaurants to something other than ethnic, such as e.g. Restaurants by culture, but I disagree that it is a Western notion to categorize restaurants by culture. After all, there is a Category:European restaurants (and there should be). Place Clichy ( talk) 10:15, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
-
Place Clichy, there is nothing to Merge. As I stated, it's been emptied.
Liz
Read!
Talk!
01:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Liz: from what I can see in
page history, it seems that within the same hour:
- A user created Category:Restaurants serving Chinese cuisine and added two pages to it
- A second user reverted this addition on the restaurants' pages, with edit comments such as see Chinese restaurants in Canada
- This second user opened this CfD discussion.
- I can only approve each of the actions above, clearly in the spirit of WP:BRD. I think that the nominator was right to open a discussion, even for an empty category, because it is not entirely moot to look for community consensus showing that this creation attempt is redundant with existing categories that are judged to be better-named, instead of just a technical deletion. Another possible road would have been for the creator to open a move discussion in the first place, but you can't blame users to be bold. Place Clichy ( talk) 09:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Liz: from what I can see in
page history, it seems that within the same hour:
-
Place Clichy, there is nothing to Merge. As I stated, it's been emptied.
Liz
Read!
Talk!
01:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: The articles Sun Wah BBQ and Cuisine AuntDai were the previous contents of the category, before the nom removed them.
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- Answer to relisting comment: the two articles were the "previous contents of the category" for precisely 55 and 60 minutes, respectively. I don't really know what lesson we can take from that. Place Clichy ( talk) 19:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This is an empty category,
Qwerfjkl. I'm not sure why this discussion needed to be relisted. There is nothing to move or merge.
Liz
Read!
Talk!
01:36, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Liz, in order to discuss, for example, the possibility of a reverse merge. Qwerfjkl talk 19:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Maybe I should have made this comment at the beginning of this discussion but there were about a dozen similar "Restaurants serving X cuisine" categories created at the same time and the others have been deleted for being empty as CSD C1 speedy deletions. This is the only one remaining from that group. Liz Read! Talk! 01:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Eastern European restaurants. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:01, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with other categories in Category:Restaurants by cuisine -- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:11, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Support per nom. I do not have an objection against "serving" per se, but it is not the current convention. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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✗
plicit
23:30, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Writers from Nepal to Category:Nepalese writers
- Propose merging Category:Musicians from Nepal to Category:Nepalese musicians
- Propose merging Category:Songwriters from Nepal to Category:Nepalese songwriters
- Propose merging Category:Singer-songwriters from Nepal to Category:Nepalese singer-songwriters
- Propose merging Category:Singers from Nepal to Category:Nepalese singers
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category
Mason (
talk)
19:48, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect: sorry it’s my mistake for creating this mess. I was sadly guided by Category:Singers from California, the wrong category for nationality. I tried to rectify the situation by change the categories to redirects but did not remove the discussion template FuzzyMagma ( talk) 21:35, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Creator has already implemented the merge manually. Speedy delete per WP:G7. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:43, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Delete or redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 09:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
FuzzyMagma: a redirect isn't really useful, is it?
Marcocapelle (
talk)
12:23, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle I did it because I thought it will help the situation but if you disagree let me what will be the alternative
FuzzyMagma (
talk)
12:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
FuzzyMagma: the alternative is just delete.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
16:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- let me do that then FuzzyMagma ( talk) 16:10, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
FuzzyMagma: the alternative is just delete.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
16:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Marcocapelle I did it because I thought it will help the situation but if you disagree let me what will be the alternative
FuzzyMagma (
talk)
12:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason ( talk) 21:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- I would prefer the other way around because "colonial" appears to be ambiguous:
Category:Colonial people of German East Africa also contains non-Germans. So the alt proposal is: Split
Category:Colonial people of German East Africa to
Category:German people in German East Africa and
Category:People from German East Africa.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
10:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'd support the reverse. I personally think we should be using German expatriates in German FOO; however, I know I'm in the minority on that, and thus concede to the wiki consensus. Mason ( talk) 14:25, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:04, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: rename, slightly odd grammar, the format of the subcategories is more natural. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Rename per nom. House Blaster talk 23:02, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Turkic people.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose dual merging Category:Turkic slaves to Category:Slaves and Category:Turkic people
- Nominator's rationale: This one was missed when the bulk of Turkic people categories were deleted. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_7#Category:Turkic_rulers Mason ( talk) 23:57, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Language family is not defining for slaves, and these articles are better defined by other descriptors, such as Mamluks, Seljuks or Ghurids. Place Clichy ( talk) 00:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, but only to Category:Turkic people. The articles are already in the tree of Category:Slaves by century. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:59, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: What do we really need this category for when we already have
an article? Moreover, the term is very confusing and subjective.
Kailash29792
(talk)
08:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, per nom. Jayanthkumar123 ( talk) 07:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, not a defining characteristic of any of these films. (The fact that an article exists is not a convincing argument.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. NaanReady ( talk) 15:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Jamaican planters.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Planters of Jamaica to Category:Jamaican planters
- Nominator's rationale: duplicate category Mason ( talk) 04:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Thanks Mason for finding so many duplicates.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
06:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! (I'm blatantly procrastinating an article revision and packing for a move this week 😁 ) Mason ( talk) 14:10, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:Paintings by Henri Biva
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: small cat (n = 2) with epon family page Mason ( talk) 04:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:11, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Families of Czech ancestry.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:04, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Families of Czech descent to Category:Families of Czech ancestry
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping categories Mason ( talk) 04:16, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Admittedly it is confusing that we categorize individuals by "descent" but families by "ancestry". Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:13, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2#Category:English expatriates in Taormina, Sicily
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to
Category:Provinces of Finland (1917–1997).
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Provinces of Finland (1917–97) to Category:Provinces of Finland (1917–1997)
- Nominator's rationale: norm is to use the full year Mason ( talk) 01:26, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. This could have been listed at WP:CFDS as a C2B nomination. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:19, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: C1 declined on 11 October by Liz. This category contains only itself and is contained only in itself, and there is no indication of what should be contained in it (how does one solve an anniversary?). –
dudhhr
talk
contribssheher
01:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Mason ( talk) 01:27, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, this is close to WP:G1. I think the speedy request would have been succesful if nom had removed the self-reference in advance. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to
Category:Soviet cartoonists.
(non-admin closure)
House
Blaster
talk
23:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Cartoonists from the Soviet Union to Category:Soviet cartoonists
- Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason ( talk) 00:47, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:25, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Nobody mentioned a merge target. Marcocapelle implies the sole article is already in his merge target; Smasongarrison, you are welcome to add Danyang Pi clan to an appropriate category if you had one in mind. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 23:10, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: only one page in it, the main article
toobigtokale (
talk)
00:16, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Should be speedy merged. Mason ( talk) 01:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete/merge (in this case these two actions have the same effect). Mason is right that this could have been listed at speedy as a case of WP:C2F. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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