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Category:14th-century Norwegian people by occupation
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Category:Sailboat types built by Edel
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Nominator's rationale: Small cat without a corresponding eponymous article about the family. Are a father-son pair. no cat interlanguage links
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Category:Latsis family
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Nominator's rationale: small cat (n=2) father-son pair without a corresponding eponymous article about the family. category has 1 interlanguage link (but it still seems unlikely for growth).
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03:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Arab Christians
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The result of the discussion was:purge but keep. Specifically, implement Place Clichy's suggestion to purge everything but "context explicitly linked to Arab ethnicity". @
Place Clichy,
Marcocapelle, and
Smasongarrison: I would also like to take a moment to say that this is an example of Wikipedia discussion at its best. This is probably the best discussion I have had the pleasure of closing; thank you for your thoughtful contributions!
(non-admin closure)HouseBlastertalk14:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:rename, the current name is inaccurate because often Christians in the Middle East do not identify as Arab, as is also recognized in article
Arab Christians. If kept, then purge most subcategories.
Marcocapelle (
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06:15, 10 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep but purge national subcategories. It is disagreeable that people would use Arab container categories for people from countries deemed to be Arabic, a very wrong assumption (e.g.
Category:Egyptian Christians). Marcocapelle is right to point out that many or most people belonging to a Christian minority in an otherwise Arab country will not automatically self-identify as Arabs. However, some do. Article
Arab Christians clearly shows that this is a thing, and it should be assumed to be defining when editors explicitly placed an article either directly in this category or in select child categories
Arab Christians in Mesopotamia,
Arab Christian saints,
Israeli Arab Christians or
Ghassanid kings (a Christian pre-Islamic Arab tribe). I believe it to be also the case for
Category:Antiochian Greek Christians, as main article
Antiochian Greek Christians states that members of this religious community strongly identify with Arab nationalism since the 19th century, a topic which even has
its own article.
Place Clichy (
talk)
16:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: There appears to be consensus for purging the national subcats, but should this category be kept or renamed? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
HouseBlastertalk02:07, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Ahh sorry, I should have clarified. i meant that I support the rename, but if we keep the original name, we should purge like you suggested. however, I think either end product would be fine. and I could see implementing both categories trees.
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Category:Political party alliances in South Korea
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Nominator's rationale: Small cat without a corresponding eponymous article about the family. Are a father-son pair. no cat interlanguage links
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03:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: small cat (n=2) father-son pair without a corresponding eponymous article about the family. category has 1 interlanguage link (but it still seems unlikely for growth).
Mason (
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03:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Arab Christians
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The result of the discussion was:purge but keep. Specifically, implement Place Clichy's suggestion to purge everything but "context explicitly linked to Arab ethnicity". @
Place Clichy,
Marcocapelle, and
Smasongarrison: I would also like to take a moment to say that this is an example of Wikipedia discussion at its best. This is probably the best discussion I have had the pleasure of closing; thank you for your thoughtful contributions!
(non-admin closure)HouseBlastertalk14:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:rename, the current name is inaccurate because often Christians in the Middle East do not identify as Arab, as is also recognized in article
Arab Christians. If kept, then purge most subcategories.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
06:15, 10 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep but purge national subcategories. It is disagreeable that people would use Arab container categories for people from countries deemed to be Arabic, a very wrong assumption (e.g.
Category:Egyptian Christians). Marcocapelle is right to point out that many or most people belonging to a Christian minority in an otherwise Arab country will not automatically self-identify as Arabs. However, some do. Article
Arab Christians clearly shows that this is a thing, and it should be assumed to be defining when editors explicitly placed an article either directly in this category or in select child categories
Arab Christians in Mesopotamia,
Arab Christian saints,
Israeli Arab Christians or
Ghassanid kings (a Christian pre-Islamic Arab tribe). I believe it to be also the case for
Category:Antiochian Greek Christians, as main article
Antiochian Greek Christians states that members of this religious community strongly identify with Arab nationalism since the 19th century, a topic which even has
its own article.
Place Clichy (
talk)
16:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: There appears to be consensus for purging the national subcats, but should this category be kept or renamed? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
HouseBlastertalk02:07, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Ahh sorry, I should have clarified. i meant that I support the rename, but if we keep the original name, we should purge like you suggested. however, I think either end product would be fine. and I could see implementing both categories trees.
Mason (
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12:07, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
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