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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT. Little room for growth and the songs and albums included aren't defined by the tour. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:16, 26 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Songs and albums can be removed from the category if you prefer, but the category should be kept for the purpose of categorizing the other articles, and there is still potential for more articles relating to The Eras Tour - the community of editors writing and editing The Eras Tour-related articles is very active, and the tour is still ongoing.
Theknine2 (
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These articles are not about a tour, but they are about a tour. Perhaps provide them with an * sort key.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep Not sure what was originally in the category when it was nominated, but it looks well populated and defining at this point. -
RevelationDirect (
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Keep After a purging attempt by the creator (Theknine2 if I'm correct), this category now looks fine with the articles included in it.
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Merge for Now with no objection to recreating later if these are ever used for several templates. -
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Category:Guatemalan singers by century
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Category:Pakistani scholars by century
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. there's only one category in here, and it's unhelpful for navigation
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Category:Montenegrin people by occupation and century
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Category:Parasports competitors from Pizhou
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Nominator's rationale: Rename to be broader as the intersection between city, disability, and occupation isn't a defining intersection.
Mason (
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Weak keep, at least the first one. If I understand the articles correctly, there is a dedicated parasports training center in Pizhou.
Marcocapelle (
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It just still doesn't seem helpful to isolate disabled atheles by what city they might have trained in. when there isn't a parent category for all sportspeople in Pizhou.
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Category:National Baseball Hall of Fame inductees from the United Kingdom
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Oppose I have added in two further Hall of Famer’s from the United Kingdom to the category. This may only be a small list, but considering the prevalence of inductees to be born in the USA, and the high importance of U.K. born Hall of Famers to the sport in the U.K., I propose the category remains. It is important to the topic of baseball in the United Kingdom.
AngelsAndOwls (
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Disagree; this is overcategorization.
Omnis Scientia (
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The Hall of Fame article itself doesn’t make any great effort for the casual reader to see what countries the inductees were from. Being based in the USA the natural assumption is the inductees will all therefore be American. This category enables readers and researchers a way to differentiate inductees born outside the USA. If anything, more effort needs to be made for other inductees from other parts of the world, because year on year MLB is more global in its players, officials and writers etc. Why not help the world find their people more easily?
AngelsAndOwls (
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Delete per nom. –
Aidan721 (
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Delete This can be handled in the article space and the intersection seems non-defining. -
RevelationDirect (
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Support, trivial intersection with country of birth while they actually played in the US.
Marcocapelle (
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From the perspective of a British baseball historian and fan, this is NOT ‘trivial’. We only have a small number of inductees, and culturally and historically that is important to us, as a nation. How many other nations have inductees at all? Not many.
Removing the category will make it harder for people to find this information quickly, and impossible for people to stumble across whilst browsing, because the main page on this subject offers no definition of nationality.
Being so dismissive of a person’s nationality because they contributed to Major League Baseball in the United States, seems an odd viewpoint to me. Being born in the United Kingdom but moving to the United States was culturally important in itself, for example the Wright family brought with them their love of bat and ball games from Britain, and Harry Wright is seen by many as one of the father’s of baseball, and is celebrated in Britain. The fact that he hailed from Sheffield, where the rules of Association Football and the oldest club in the world exist, aligns with the Wright family in baseball and shows the city has sporting cultural significance.
Removing the category makes life much harder for British sports fans and historians to navigate. I would suggest it is time for Americans to actually expand the categories to include categories for other non-US nationals who are inductees.
AngelsAndOwls (
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@
AngelsAndOwls, what you are suggesting goes against
WP:OC and will only make it harder to navigate. Wikipedia already categorizes MLB players by national origin; there is no need to do the same for Hall of Fame inductees. Additionally, the
Category:Baseball in the United Kingdom does a better job for history of baseball in the UK (though it needs some improvement) than this category would.
Omnis Scientia (
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Comment With three items this is a SMALL CAT. Better to merge "from Europe"(?)
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Category:Fiction about superhuman features or abilities
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We may consider that possibility too.
AHI-3000 (
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It's odd that nobody has voted on this proposal yet? I am requesting that someone relist this discussion to the current date please.
AHI-3000 (
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Discussions are usually not relisted within a week.
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Support per nom, as proposed by Marcocapelle for character subcats. Marcocapelle's choice is more consistent with the prior outcome for
Category:Fictional superhumans. –
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I have updated the proposed name changes per Marco's suggestion.
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Category:Constituencies of the Parliament of the United Kingdom established in 2024
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:CRYSTAL. The
Next United Kingdom general election, although widely speculated to take place in 2024, may not happen until 2025 so there is no guarantee that any of these constituencies will be established next year. Grammatically, it doesn't make sense either as 'established' is past tense but 2024 is a future date. There is an argument that the constituencies were created in 2023 as the
Statutory Instrument which creates them came into force on 29 November 2023 but that would break with the current structure which categorises constituencies by year of first election. I'm unsure exactly what the correct name for the category should be so I am happy to listen to any alternative suggestions.
Stevie fae Scotland (
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Rename -- We will probably need to rename again when there is an election, as new constituencies at 2024 election. This is a good solution for the moment.
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Category:English-language Samoan films
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Nominator's rationale: Category that misrepresents its contents. The "nationality" of a film is determined by what country's film industry fronted the money to produce it, not by where it may have been physically filmed -- but of the three films filed here, all three are American or British films that did some shooting in Samoa, and not even one of them is a Samoan-produced film at all. Further, renaming the category isn't necessary:
Category:Films shot in Samoa and
Category:Films shot in American Samoa both already exist, and all three of the films here are already in one or the other of those, so deleting this won't eliminate any context. This was, additionally, created by an editor who has been blocked from Wikipedia, in part because of their serial overcategorizing of articles on trivial, non-defining and inaccurate characteristics.
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Delete, the category contains two British films and one American film.
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Category:Super Bowl lead-out shows
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Nominator's rationale: This hardly seems
WP:DEFINING. Just whatever program was scheduled next --
woodensuperman 14:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. I'll grant that American television does have a tendency to use the Super Bowl's massive audience as an opportunity to try to promote one of its new or struggling series by scheduling a special episode of that series right after the Super Bowl — but that isn't a meaningfully defining characteristic of the entire series, just potentially of the one specific episode alone. The overwhelming majority of the contents here are series, however, not specific episodes — but the entire series isn't defined by the scheduling of one episode, and having had one episode aired after the Super Bowl doesn't render the series into a defined group that get collectively analyzed on that basis. So a list is fine, and indeed
List of Super Bowl lead-out programs already exists, but this isn't a defining or useful basis for a category.
Bearcat (
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Delete per nom. The list is sufficient for this topic. –
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Category:Foreign hostages
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Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure if "Foreign" is the right way to describe these categories as effectively they're describing where the hostages were taken
Mason (
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Alternate rename to
Category:Foreign hostages by country. "detaining country" makes it sound like the hostages were arrested by police or soldiers of the government, instead of being kidnapped by local criminal gangs or terrorist groups.
AHI-3000 (
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My problem is with the "foreign" part of the name.
Mason (
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Comment: foreign seems to serve a purpose: these categories apparently exclude hostages involving people who live in that country. I am not sure if that is a really useful category distinction though. But that is more an issue for the subcategories.
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Nominator's rationale: In the context of
relevant Wikipedia policy,
fair use and
non-free content aren't exactly the same thing as explained in
WP:ITSFAIRUSE and
WP:NFC#Background. Wikipedia's nn-free content use policy was, in fact, established to be more restrictive than the concept of "fair use" defined under US copyright law. Mixing the two terms up or treating them as interchangeable often leads to confusion, particularly among editors not very familiar with relevant policy. While it's true that the
wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy's Exemption Doctrine Policy allows local projects to develop their own policies for using "fair use" content where applicable, ultimately it is the local policy that determines whether a particular type of non-free use is acceptable. Over the years, many templates and other pages associated with "non-free content use" have been renamed to reflect this difference accordingly, but perhaps this one just went unnoticed because it's just a maintenance template. Even so, it probably should be renamed for consistency sake and to avoid confusion. It should also be noted that there are many subcategories populating this parent category whose names probably also should be changed from "Fair use XXXX images" to "Non-free XXXX images" if the changing the name of the parent category is considered appropriate. --
Marchjuly (
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Support - Should help align to policy. --
Whpq (
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Support per nom, this is long overdue.—
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Category:Schools in Bidar district
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Merge for Now with no objection to later recreation if the article count grows, per
WP:MFN. -
RevelationDirect (
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Comment This category is empty so no Merger is really called for. LizRead!Talk! 01:21, 13 December 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Wikipedia essays (arts)
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Nominator's rationale: This seems to be the only subcat of
Category:Wikipedia essays to use a parenthetical descriptor. Most (but not all) are titled Category:Wikipedia essays about foobar. However, I would be open to other names (which is why I am bringing this here as opposed to
WP:C2C). HouseBlastertalk 03:39, 4 December 2023 (UTC)reply
"about media" may be a better descriptor of the current content.
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Category:Fictional micronations
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Nominator's rationale: With only one non-redirect member that isn't actually an article about a micronation, this is a micro-category. Falls under
WP:NARROWCAT.
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Merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories.
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Category:County of Portugal nobility
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I purged
Urraca Henriques who wasn't a count (her father was) leaving the second category empty.
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Category:Births in Guimarães
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge (for now) this underpopulated category to French expatriates in Chad, there's not a French Chad category. and the only person in the category is already in a colonial category.
Mason (
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Oppose. Since French Chad was part of France, I don't think we can talk about expatriation.
Frenchl (
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It was part of the French colonial empire, not part of France proper. But a reverse merge would also be fine, it just does not make sense to have two categories for the same purpose.
Marcocapelle (
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If French Chad was part of France, it seems by that logic that most people in French Chad would count as French and therefore the category is pointless. It would be like "Australian people in Tasmania". But I don't think that's an accurate representation of the situation. As said above, it was a French colony, not part of France itself, just as Tasmania was once a British colony and not part of Britain.
MClay1 (
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That's fine with me.
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Nominator's rationale: There isn't a "French Cambodia" category, and I don't see how the only category member shouldn't just be categorized as an expatriate
Mason (
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Oppose. Since French Cambodia was part of France, I don't think we can talk about expatriation.
Frenchl (
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It was part of the French colonial empire, not part of France proper. But a reverse merge would also be fine, it just does not make sense to have two categories for the same purpose.
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Category:Summer camps for children with special needs
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Nominator's rationale: CDC: parent is Disability organizations, and description of category is "This category includes summer camps serving children with disabilities". "special needs" is a euphemism (per MOS:EUPHEMISM)
Mason (
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Are all children with special needs disabled? It seems like it's not just a euphamism as it's debatable whether it's appropriate to call all neurodivergent children disabled (depending on the condition, e.g. ADHD). I don't know exactly who the camps cater to.
MClay1 (
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Support per actual content, I checked a number of articles and they were all about disabilities in general or about a specific disability.
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Category:Sexual exploitation by country
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has 1 redirect in it, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Musicians by software
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Musicians now use
digital audio workstations to edit their digital music but the software articles don't generally provide sources for these users, with the exception of
FL Studio. On the biography article side, the software is generally not mentioned at all in the articles I looked at cincluding with
Ghost Loft,
Afrojack,
Oliver Lieb and
Max Tundra, with at least one exception in
Soulja Boy. Even when sourced, this association doesn't seem defining as musicians may change software packages or, as they become stars, delegate this work to technicians. -
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Delete, not a defining characteristic.
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Category:The Beatles' musical instruments
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Delete, not a defining characteristic of these instruments.
Marcocapelle (
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I genuinely have no memory of creating this category. If the result is delete, I don't have an objection. It seems more suited to a list.
MClay1 (
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Delete. It would be different if this was about a specific instrument owned by a musician, for example B. B. King's
Lucille (guitar), but these are just bog-standard instruments such as
Fender Telecaster, so not
WP:DEFINING here. --
woodensuperman 08:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT. Little room for growth and the songs and albums included aren't defined by the tour. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:16, 26 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Songs and albums can be removed from the category if you prefer, but the category should be kept for the purpose of categorizing the other articles, and there is still potential for more articles relating to The Eras Tour - the community of editors writing and editing The Eras Tour-related articles is very active, and the tour is still ongoing.
Theknine2 (
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These articles are not about a tour, but they are about a tour. Perhaps provide them with an * sort key.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep Not sure what was originally in the category when it was nominated, but it looks well populated and defining at this point. -
RevelationDirect (
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Keep After a purging attempt by the creator (Theknine2 if I'm correct), this category now looks fine with the articles included in it.
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Merge for Now with no objection to recreating later if these are ever used for several templates. -
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Category:Guatemalan singers by century
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Category:Pakistani scholars by century
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. there's only one category in here, and it's unhelpful for navigation
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Category:Montenegrin people by occupation and century
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Category:Parasports competitors from Pizhou
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Nominator's rationale: Rename to be broader as the intersection between city, disability, and occupation isn't a defining intersection.
Mason (
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Weak keep, at least the first one. If I understand the articles correctly, there is a dedicated parasports training center in Pizhou.
Marcocapelle (
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It just still doesn't seem helpful to isolate disabled atheles by what city they might have trained in. when there isn't a parent category for all sportspeople in Pizhou.
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Category:National Baseball Hall of Fame inductees from the United Kingdom
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Oppose I have added in two further Hall of Famer’s from the United Kingdom to the category. This may only be a small list, but considering the prevalence of inductees to be born in the USA, and the high importance of U.K. born Hall of Famers to the sport in the U.K., I propose the category remains. It is important to the topic of baseball in the United Kingdom.
AngelsAndOwls (
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Disagree; this is overcategorization.
Omnis Scientia (
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The Hall of Fame article itself doesn’t make any great effort for the casual reader to see what countries the inductees were from. Being based in the USA the natural assumption is the inductees will all therefore be American. This category enables readers and researchers a way to differentiate inductees born outside the USA. If anything, more effort needs to be made for other inductees from other parts of the world, because year on year MLB is more global in its players, officials and writers etc. Why not help the world find their people more easily?
AngelsAndOwls (
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Delete per nom. –
Aidan721 (
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Delete This can be handled in the article space and the intersection seems non-defining. -
RevelationDirect (
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Support, trivial intersection with country of birth while they actually played in the US.
Marcocapelle (
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From the perspective of a British baseball historian and fan, this is NOT ‘trivial’. We only have a small number of inductees, and culturally and historically that is important to us, as a nation. How many other nations have inductees at all? Not many.
Removing the category will make it harder for people to find this information quickly, and impossible for people to stumble across whilst browsing, because the main page on this subject offers no definition of nationality.
Being so dismissive of a person’s nationality because they contributed to Major League Baseball in the United States, seems an odd viewpoint to me. Being born in the United Kingdom but moving to the United States was culturally important in itself, for example the Wright family brought with them their love of bat and ball games from Britain, and Harry Wright is seen by many as one of the father’s of baseball, and is celebrated in Britain. The fact that he hailed from Sheffield, where the rules of Association Football and the oldest club in the world exist, aligns with the Wright family in baseball and shows the city has sporting cultural significance.
Removing the category makes life much harder for British sports fans and historians to navigate. I would suggest it is time for Americans to actually expand the categories to include categories for other non-US nationals who are inductees.
AngelsAndOwls (
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@
AngelsAndOwls, what you are suggesting goes against
WP:OC and will only make it harder to navigate. Wikipedia already categorizes MLB players by national origin; there is no need to do the same for Hall of Fame inductees. Additionally, the
Category:Baseball in the United Kingdom does a better job for history of baseball in the UK (though it needs some improvement) than this category would.
Omnis Scientia (
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Comment With three items this is a SMALL CAT. Better to merge "from Europe"(?)
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Category:Fiction about superhuman features or abilities
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We may consider that possibility too.
AHI-3000 (
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It's odd that nobody has voted on this proposal yet? I am requesting that someone relist this discussion to the current date please.
AHI-3000 (
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Discussions are usually not relisted within a week.
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Support per nom, as proposed by Marcocapelle for character subcats. Marcocapelle's choice is more consistent with the prior outcome for
Category:Fictional superhumans. –
LaundryPizza03 (
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I have updated the proposed name changes per Marco's suggestion.
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Category:Constituencies of the Parliament of the United Kingdom established in 2024
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:CRYSTAL. The
Next United Kingdom general election, although widely speculated to take place in 2024, may not happen until 2025 so there is no guarantee that any of these constituencies will be established next year. Grammatically, it doesn't make sense either as 'established' is past tense but 2024 is a future date. There is an argument that the constituencies were created in 2023 as the
Statutory Instrument which creates them came into force on 29 November 2023 but that would break with the current structure which categorises constituencies by year of first election. I'm unsure exactly what the correct name for the category should be so I am happy to listen to any alternative suggestions.
Stevie fae Scotland (
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Rename -- We will probably need to rename again when there is an election, as new constituencies at 2024 election. This is a good solution for the moment.
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Category:English-language Samoan films
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Nominator's rationale: Category that misrepresents its contents. The "nationality" of a film is determined by what country's film industry fronted the money to produce it, not by where it may have been physically filmed -- but of the three films filed here, all three are American or British films that did some shooting in Samoa, and not even one of them is a Samoan-produced film at all. Further, renaming the category isn't necessary:
Category:Films shot in Samoa and
Category:Films shot in American Samoa both already exist, and all three of the films here are already in one or the other of those, so deleting this won't eliminate any context. This was, additionally, created by an editor who has been blocked from Wikipedia, in part because of their serial overcategorizing of articles on trivial, non-defining and inaccurate characteristics.
Bearcat (
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Delete, the category contains two British films and one American film.
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Category:Super Bowl lead-out shows
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Nominator's rationale: This hardly seems
WP:DEFINING. Just whatever program was scheduled next --
woodensuperman 14:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. I'll grant that American television does have a tendency to use the Super Bowl's massive audience as an opportunity to try to promote one of its new or struggling series by scheduling a special episode of that series right after the Super Bowl — but that isn't a meaningfully defining characteristic of the entire series, just potentially of the one specific episode alone. The overwhelming majority of the contents here are series, however, not specific episodes — but the entire series isn't defined by the scheduling of one episode, and having had one episode aired after the Super Bowl doesn't render the series into a defined group that get collectively analyzed on that basis. So a list is fine, and indeed
List of Super Bowl lead-out programs already exists, but this isn't a defining or useful basis for a category.
Bearcat (
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Delete per nom. The list is sufficient for this topic. –
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Category:Foreign hostages
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Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure if "Foreign" is the right way to describe these categories as effectively they're describing where the hostages were taken
Mason (
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Alternate rename to
Category:Foreign hostages by country. "detaining country" makes it sound like the hostages were arrested by police or soldiers of the government, instead of being kidnapped by local criminal gangs or terrorist groups.
AHI-3000 (
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My problem is with the "foreign" part of the name.
Mason (
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Comment: foreign seems to serve a purpose: these categories apparently exclude hostages involving people who live in that country. I am not sure if that is a really useful category distinction though. But that is more an issue for the subcategories.
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Nominator's rationale: In the context of
relevant Wikipedia policy,
fair use and
non-free content aren't exactly the same thing as explained in
WP:ITSFAIRUSE and
WP:NFC#Background. Wikipedia's nn-free content use policy was, in fact, established to be more restrictive than the concept of "fair use" defined under US copyright law. Mixing the two terms up or treating them as interchangeable often leads to confusion, particularly among editors not very familiar with relevant policy. While it's true that the
wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy's Exemption Doctrine Policy allows local projects to develop their own policies for using "fair use" content where applicable, ultimately it is the local policy that determines whether a particular type of non-free use is acceptable. Over the years, many templates and other pages associated with "non-free content use" have been renamed to reflect this difference accordingly, but perhaps this one just went unnoticed because it's just a maintenance template. Even so, it probably should be renamed for consistency sake and to avoid confusion. It should also be noted that there are many subcategories populating this parent category whose names probably also should be changed from "Fair use XXXX images" to "Non-free XXXX images" if the changing the name of the parent category is considered appropriate. --
Marchjuly (
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Support - Should help align to policy. --
Whpq (
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Support per nom, this is long overdue.—
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Category:Schools in Bidar district
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Merge for Now with no objection to later recreation if the article count grows, per
WP:MFN. -
RevelationDirect (
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Comment This category is empty so no Merger is really called for. LizRead!Talk! 01:21, 13 December 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Wikipedia essays (arts)
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Nominator's rationale: This seems to be the only subcat of
Category:Wikipedia essays to use a parenthetical descriptor. Most (but not all) are titled Category:Wikipedia essays about foobar. However, I would be open to other names (which is why I am bringing this here as opposed to
WP:C2C). HouseBlastertalk 03:39, 4 December 2023 (UTC)reply
"about media" may be a better descriptor of the current content.
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Category:Fictional micronations
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Nominator's rationale: With only one non-redirect member that isn't actually an article about a micronation, this is a micro-category. Falls under
WP:NARROWCAT.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
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Merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories.
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Category:County of Portugal nobility
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I purged
Urraca Henriques who wasn't a count (her father was) leaving the second category empty.
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Category:Births in Guimarães
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge (for now) this underpopulated category to French expatriates in Chad, there's not a French Chad category. and the only person in the category is already in a colonial category.
Mason (
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Oppose. Since French Chad was part of France, I don't think we can talk about expatriation.
Frenchl (
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It was part of the French colonial empire, not part of France proper. But a reverse merge would also be fine, it just does not make sense to have two categories for the same purpose.
Marcocapelle (
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If French Chad was part of France, it seems by that logic that most people in French Chad would count as French and therefore the category is pointless. It would be like "Australian people in Tasmania". But I don't think that's an accurate representation of the situation. As said above, it was a French colony, not part of France itself, just as Tasmania was once a British colony and not part of Britain.
MClay1 (
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That's fine with me.
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Category:French people in French Cambodia
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Nominator's rationale: There isn't a "French Cambodia" category, and I don't see how the only category member shouldn't just be categorized as an expatriate
Mason (
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Oppose. Since French Cambodia was part of France, I don't think we can talk about expatriation.
Frenchl (
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It was part of the French colonial empire, not part of France proper. But a reverse merge would also be fine, it just does not make sense to have two categories for the same purpose.
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Category:Summer camps for children with special needs
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Nominator's rationale: CDC: parent is Disability organizations, and description of category is "This category includes summer camps serving children with disabilities". "special needs" is a euphemism (per MOS:EUPHEMISM)
Mason (
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Are all children with special needs disabled? It seems like it's not just a euphamism as it's debatable whether it's appropriate to call all neurodivergent children disabled (depending on the condition, e.g. ADHD). I don't know exactly who the camps cater to.
MClay1 (
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Support per actual content, I checked a number of articles and they were all about disabilities in general or about a specific disability.
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Category:Sexual exploitation by country
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has 1 redirect in it, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Musicians by software
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Musicians now use
digital audio workstations to edit their digital music but the software articles don't generally provide sources for these users, with the exception of
FL Studio. On the biography article side, the software is generally not mentioned at all in the articles I looked at cincluding with
Ghost Loft,
Afrojack,
Oliver Lieb and
Max Tundra, with at least one exception in
Soulja Boy. Even when sourced, this association doesn't seem defining as musicians may change software packages or, as they become stars, delegate this work to technicians. -
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Delete, not a defining characteristic.
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Category:The Beatles' musical instruments
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Delete, not a defining characteristic of these instruments.
Marcocapelle (
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I genuinely have no memory of creating this category. If the result is delete, I don't have an objection. It seems more suited to a list.
MClay1 (
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Delete. It would be different if this was about a specific instrument owned by a musician, for example B. B. King's
Lucille (guitar), but these are just bog-standard instruments such as
Fender Telecaster, so not
WP:DEFINING here. --
woodensuperman 08:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)reply
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