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Nominator's rationale: This category is a mixture of terrorism categories and categories and articles related to various forms of more nuanced nationalistic violence. It should be merged into
Category:Political violence in Europe, which is the more all-embracing and less labelling terminology.
Iskandar323 (
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11:15, 10 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep but purge.
Purge:
Category:2001 insurgency in Macedonia can't be dismissed as "terrorism" as a whole, though it was certainly primarily fuelled by Albanian nationalism/separatism.
Purge:
Category:Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists. They definitely were nationalists, but I see no parent or child categories labelling them as "terrorist". At most
Category:War crimes committed by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army could be kept, but as the name suggests, they are better categorised as "war crimes" than as "terrorist attacks" (which generally happen in peacetime and under cover rather than in wartime by a rebel army operating out in the open. E.g. ISIL committing a massacre after conquering a town in Iraq or Syria is a "war crime", but ISIL bombing a train in Western Europe is a "terrorist attack". These are not absolute terms, but the conventional way in which they are used).
It's still going to be a rather emaciated category tree, but sure, if just purging the category of the more dubious inclusions (the Ukraine stuff particularly) is preferable then let's go with that.
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Nominator's rationale: Single-entry
WP:SMALLCAT for just one person. This would be fine if there were five of these, but it does not facilitate navigation of the Wikipedia to obsessively categorize everything down to microcategories of one.
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12:19, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Royalty of the Crusader states
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Do not support Royalty and nobility are not synonyms, they are two different things. To treat them as if they were the same thing makes less informed people misunderstand them and think they are synonyms. To often, Wikipedia use the same categories for nobility and royalty as if they were the same. And indeed, many ignorant people seem to think they are the same, which only enforces ignorance and do the reader and injustice. Wikipedia should not over simplify things but use the correct terms. The category is not a redundant layer. It is a necessary one, since royalty and nobility is not the same thing.--
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11:10, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply
You might have a point. Would you consider the following women to have been "royalty", or just "nobility"?
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Support renaming to monarchs. Wikipedia should use gender neutral terms when possible and to make categories more consistent. --
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Category:Dutch movie series
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Nominator's rationale: I just created "Dutch film series" but now I realise there is also "Dutch movie series" created in 2015. I think the word "film" is better suited and it's also what we use for other European countries, see
Category:Film series by country.
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Nominator's rationale: This category is a mixture of terrorism categories and categories and articles related to various forms of more nuanced nationalistic violence. It should be merged into
Category:Political violence in Europe, which is the more all-embracing and less labelling terminology.
Iskandar323 (
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11:15, 10 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep but purge.
Purge:
Category:2001 insurgency in Macedonia can't be dismissed as "terrorism" as a whole, though it was certainly primarily fuelled by Albanian nationalism/separatism.
Purge:
Category:Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists. They definitely were nationalists, but I see no parent or child categories labelling them as "terrorist". At most
Category:War crimes committed by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army could be kept, but as the name suggests, they are better categorised as "war crimes" than as "terrorist attacks" (which generally happen in peacetime and under cover rather than in wartime by a rebel army operating out in the open. E.g. ISIL committing a massacre after conquering a town in Iraq or Syria is a "war crime", but ISIL bombing a train in Western Europe is a "terrorist attack". These are not absolute terms, but the conventional way in which they are used).
It's still going to be a rather emaciated category tree, but sure, if just purging the category of the more dubious inclusions (the Ukraine stuff particularly) is preferable then let's go with that.
Iskandar323 (
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09:03, 11 August 2023 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Single-entry
WP:SMALLCAT for just one person. This would be fine if there were five of these, but it does not facilitate navigation of the Wikipedia to obsessively categorize everything down to microcategories of one.
Bearcat (
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12:19, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Royalty of the Crusader states
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Do not support Royalty and nobility are not synonyms, they are two different things. To treat them as if they were the same thing makes less informed people misunderstand them and think they are synonyms. To often, Wikipedia use the same categories for nobility and royalty as if they were the same. And indeed, many ignorant people seem to think they are the same, which only enforces ignorance and do the reader and injustice. Wikipedia should not over simplify things but use the correct terms. The category is not a redundant layer. It is a necessary one, since royalty and nobility is not the same thing.--
Aciram (
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11:10, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply
You might have a point. Would you consider the following women to have been "royalty", or just "nobility"?
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Support renaming to monarchs. Wikipedia should use gender neutral terms when possible and to make categories more consistent. --
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11:07, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Dutch movie series
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Nominator's rationale: I just created "Dutch film series" but now I realise there is also "Dutch movie series" created in 2015. I think the word "film" is better suited and it's also what we use for other European countries, see
Category:Film series by country.
Simeon (
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10:51, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply
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