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Category:Female harem anime and manga
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. Given the existence of the "male harem" counterpart, it will be appropriate to redirect the nominated category page. –
Fayenatic
London
21:32, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Female harem anime and manga to Category:Harem anime and manga
- Nominator's rationale: The harem genre is assumed to be female by default, thus why male-based harems are referred to as "reverse harems". This category is superfluous and represents overcategorization. Harems centered on female protagonists surrounded by female suitors can be grouped into Category:LGBT harem anime and manga. ThanatosApprentice ( talk) 21:01, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. NavjotSR ( talk) 04:39, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Condensed matter
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- The result of the discussion was:
soft merge (
non-admin closure)
Marcocapelle (
talk)
04:31, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Condensed matter to Category:Condensed matter physics
- Nominator's rationale: The scope of these two categories are nearly identical, and semantically "condensed matter" is physics terminology. They both point to condensed matter physics as the primary wiki article, and the only other thing in category Category:Condensed matter is Category:Solid-state chemistry. 〈 Forbes72 | Talk 〉 13:52, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:North African footballers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge North African to African, keep Category:African footballers. – Fayenatic London 13:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: These categories are not useful, we do not have categories for footballers of other world regions. S.A. Julio ( talk) 02:43, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio ( talk) 02:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support "Africa" is not a nation. There is no need for an "African" nationality category. The "in Africa" tree structure is preferable. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 09:30, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete both per nom and Laurel Lodged. Categories like this are only useful for actual nationalities. Imagine the scale of a European footballers category, ha! No Great Shaker ( talk) 10:54, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - as we have Category:European people, Category:European sportspeople, Category:African people, Category:African sportspeople, Category:North African people, (but not Category:North African sportspeople) etc it's a little difficult to grasp the objection to footballer subcats. ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:North African footballers could be upmerged to ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:African footballers (which should be a container category ... there is no implication that African denotes nationality). Oculi ( talk) 18:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note while we do have continental sportspeople categories, the only sport-specific continental categories that exist are for the individual disciplines of swimming and athletics. I do not see much of a purpose for this container category, all the nationality categories are already included in ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Association football players by nationality, and each nationality category is already a subcategory of the continental categories (for example, ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Algerian footballers is a few levels below ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:African sportspeople).
S.A. Julio (
talk)
01:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- We have them. We probably should not have them. Continents are places; they are not the exclusive abode of nationalities. Nations straddle multiple continents. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 12:26, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note while we do have continental sportspeople categories, the only sport-specific continental categories that exist are for the individual disciplines of swimming and athletics. I do not see much of a purpose for this container category, all the nationality categories are already included in ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Association football players by nationality, and each nationality category is already a subcategory of the continental categories (for example, ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Algerian footballers is a few levels below ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:African sportspeople).
S.A. Julio (
talk)
01:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.› Category:African footballers per Oculi, but agree that ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.› Category:North African footballers should be merged into ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.› Category:African footballers and then deleted. Giant Snowman 19:55, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Merge Category:North African footballers to Category:African footballers, redundant category layer between continent and country. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep "Africa" There's a soccer region specifically for Africa, CAF. Thus soccer categories for the whole of Africa make sense. -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 04:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep and properly populate Category:African footballers as a container. This currently only contains North African items, meaning that the North African cat is useless and it should be deleted. A continent is an appropriate split. With about 200 countries, a global by country category would be inconveniently large for easy navigation. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:54, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete both We do not have Category:Asian footballers. This is another example of treating Africa as if it is a country. We should proactively work to stop such inaccurate practices. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:51, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Washington Football Team season stubs
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 12:54, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The team held the name of Washington Football Team for 2 seasons until being renamed to the Washington Commanders. Prior to that, the team was named the Washington Redskins. This page was moved from Washington Redskins player stubs on July 27th, 2020, as a result of the last team rebrand.
The category currently contains 57 pages and the name is not representative of the content within it, as the most recent season article in this category is for the 2003 season, before the team was even named the Washington Football Team. This category is meant to represent the franchise's season articles that are stubs, and it would make more sense to have it under the Washington Commanders name or to revert to the title it had pre-move (Washington Redskins season stubs). Hey man im josh ( talk) 19:41, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I note that Category:Cleveland Indians season stubs also exists and notably contains some pre-Indians named seasons. It may be worth renaming to Category:Cleveland Guardians season stubs if this precedent is followed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:22, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge/rename -- We should follow the practice of alumni categories where merged or renamed institutions take the name of the successor. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support - the designation of "Washington Commanders" is for the franchise, not just teams with that name. (The category actually already uses this logic, with the inclusion of seasons from the team's history in Boston before moving to Washington.) As such, the category name should be updated to reflect the current name of the franchise. - fuzzy510 ( talk) 05:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support, particularly since "football team" was only temporary.-- Mvqr ( talk) 10:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Songs written by Adriana Evans
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- The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:37, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category only contains redirects, no assistance to navigation. Richhoncho ( talk) 11:22, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not of any use. - fuzzy510 ( talk) 05:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Adriana Evans songs
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- The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:40, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category only contains 5 redirects. No assistance to navigation. Richhoncho ( talk) 11:21, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not of any use. - fuzzy510 ( talk) 05:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Rusyn villages
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. –
Fayenatic
London
14:24, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Rusyn villages to Category:Rusyn communities
- Propose merging Category:Rusyn cities to Category:Rusyn communities
- Nominator's rationale: The Rusyn communities category currently contains two subcategories - Rusyn cities and Rusyn villages. I do not think these categories are needed. It would be much more practical to sort communities by their country like in the Ukrainian communities category, not by type.
YoungstownToast (
talk)
23:03, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- I took the liberty to merge the two nominations. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:54, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Marcocapelle,
cats do not appear merged at the moment...?Edit: nevermind. KaerbaqianRen 💬 07:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Marcocapelle,
:* Support
KaerbaqianRen
💬
07:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment -- When a general change was made some years ago, the target was "populated places", not communities. Peterkingiron ( talk) 19:41, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NONDEF, many articles do not contain any information about Rusyns and where there is information (e.g. in the articles of the five cities) the Rusyns are a very small minority. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:39, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Query In what sense are they Rusyn? Are they 100% Rusyn? Is it 1 old lady and her Rusyn cat? Would it be more accurate to state
Category:Populated places with Rusyn majorities? Can we guarantee that they are majorities? If not, what's the purpose of the categories?
Laurel Lodged (
talk)
16:30, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- None of the villages/cities are 100% Rusyn. Some of them have Rusyn majorities, but not all. The villages/cities listed have Rusyns, Rusyn speakers, or had Rusyns historically. YoungstownToast ( talk) 18:39, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Marcocapelle and NONDEF. Just took a look at some of the articles and, like Ňagov for example, there is nothing there to define them as Rusyn communities. No Great Shaker ( talk) 11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
KeepSupport The proposition that this category could be WP:NONDEF makes no sense as whether communities are wholely Rusyn or majority Rusyn (presently or historically) is simple to establish through proper sourcing. (I would argue based on the work of historians such as Paul Robert Magocsi that the significance of some of these locales as Rusyn cultural centers is independent of majority population.) Additionally, the inclusion of data within the category can easily be supported through sources from historians and modern or historical censuses. I can go through the locations myself, one-by-one, and provide the relevant sources, but the process will take a couple weeks.
- In my opinion, making an attempt to define and source the information would be more constructive than attempting a drive-by deletion.
- Edit (18:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)): Above position changed. Previous vote struck.
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KaerbaqianRen
💬
21:19, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
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KaerbaqianRen, you appear to have registered two votes here. You can't do that. Please strike one of them out.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
21:55, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out. I misunderstood the purpose of the "relisting" KaerbaqianRen 💬 18:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- We do not categorize populated places by every small ethnic minority. If you find sources to prove the existance of these minorities, feel free to start a list instead of a category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Your assertion above does not fall under WP:NONDEF; I'm not sure which guidelines it would. However, this is already quite a substantial category and yet at the moment mostly consisting only of locations within Slovakia. It has potential for expansion with further inclusion of locations in Galicia and Zakarpattia Oblast. And in that regard, is not WP:SMALL--if that is what you are trying to express. KaerbaqianRen 💬 18:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- I wasn't suggesting WP:SMALL. As mentioned earlier, WP:NONDEF is applicable here. Populated places aren't primarily known for every small ethnic minority that lives there. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:14, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Regardless, these locations are historically majority Rusyn at least as far back as beginning of the 19th century and through the mid-to-late 20th century.
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KaerbaqianRen, you appear to have registered two votes here. You can't do that. Please strike one of them out.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
21:55, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- See: Magocsi, Paul Robert (1997). "Mapping Stateless Peoples: The East Slavs of the Carpathians". Canadian Slavonic Papers / Revue Canadienne des Slavistes. 39 (3/4): 301–331. ISSN 0008-5006.
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KaerbaqianRen
💬
05:40, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- While that may be the case, it is still not a defining characteristic of these villages. It could be source material for a new article though. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:36, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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KaerbaqianRen
💬
05:40, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:NONDEF. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:29, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Conradiner family members
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- The result of the discussion was: soft merge.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
12:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Conradiner family members to Category:House of Conradin
- Nominator's rationale: merge, unneeded diffusion because no articles are left in the parent category. Other family categories do not have this kind of diffusion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Church Slavonic writers
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to
Category:Old Church Slavonic writers. After the category was populated, editors agree that this is a viable category.
(non-admin closure) –
LaundryPizza03 (
d
c̄)
14:34, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Church Slavonic writers to Category:Old Church Slavonic writers
- Nominator's rationale: Looking at the category's description and contents, this is about
Old Church Slavonic, not
Church Slavonic. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 ( talk) 14:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, neither of the two articles is explicit about the language in which these authors wrote. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:20, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Purge articles of which it is not clear whether they belong here or belong in the renamed category. (Note that I am open to someone improving the articles in this respect.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:29, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment -- I am puzzled by this one as to what the difference is between Old and New Church Slavonic. One of the criteria seems to be whether it is written in Glagolitic or Cyrillic script. My guess is that the works of the two authors remained current as a result of being transcribed into the later script.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
15:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as SMALLCAT and unclear, or expand. ― Qwerfjkl talk 13:06, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Rename and populate based on Old Church Slavonic#Authors. – Fayenatic London 08:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Rename, after populating the category it is evident that it is about Old Church Slavonic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:29, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Children who followed their parents as heads of state
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. There was no suitable title for renaming suggested or supported. If any user wants to create a list, the contents were:
Extended content
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- Nominator's rationale: While this may fit Category:Nepotism, ultimately this looks WP:NONDEF, with weird title. Brandmeister talk 16:59, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, if fully populated the category would mainly contain monarchs. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment -- I created the category to help document how many national leaders are children of previous leaders, in non-dynastic families. I think this is a very useful category. It may not be a hugely significant trait in the life of any single person, but collectively, as a category, I think this list of names documents a cluster of similar patterns. I await the replies of the community. Pete unseth ( talk) 18:00, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- If this is a notable topic at all it would be better to create a list. Besides if this is not about monarchs the page title should clearly say so. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:07, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NONDEF, not a hugely significant trait in the life of any single person in this category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:07, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Retain - As Marcocapelle noted, this category is "not a hugely significant trait in the life of any single person in this category". My idea for this category is not that it is so significant in the life of each, but rather that the groups is significant. Pete unseth ( talk) 18:17, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- That is not in line with WP:DEFINING, it should be significant for each. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:19, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep but rename. It seems that the intent is to include elected leaders who are not technically head of state (i.e. Westminster parliaments) and to exclude monarchs and dynastic families (for whom this feature is assumed, and non-defining). How about "Elected leaders who are children of former elected leaders"? I'm sure a better wordsmith can come up with something more fitting. I disagree about nepotism: besides the Kims (who are a dynastic family) most of the names on this list were not appointed to their position by their parent.
Ivanvector (
Talk/
Edits)
18:29, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- I also disagree about non-defining: besides the Kims (who I didn't check) all but one of the current member articles mentions that person's parent in the lede, and with only two exceptions in the first paragraph. Anecdotally:
Justin Trudeau (who is not currently on the list but there's a dispute about adding the category on that talk page) hasn't done a single controversial thing in his entire premiership without some white-haired pundit comparing his action to what they surmise his father,
Pierre Trudeau, would have done in the same circumstance. However, reading through these articles it's clear that "elected" is completely the wrong word to use.
Ivanvector (
Talk/
Edits)
18:36, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- And all that being said, I also endorse the creation of a list article for this (under a better title) though the existence of a list doesn't automatically preclude the existence of a companion category. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 18:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- I also disagree about non-defining: besides the Kims (who I didn't check) all but one of the current member articles mentions that person's parent in the lede, and with only two exceptions in the first paragraph. Anecdotally:
Justin Trudeau (who is not currently on the list but there's a dispute about adding the category on that talk page) hasn't done a single controversial thing in his entire premiership without some white-haired pundit comparing his action to what they surmise his father,
Pierre Trudeau, would have done in the same circumstance. However, reading through these articles it's clear that "elected" is completely the wrong word to use.
Ivanvector (
Talk/
Edits)
18:36, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep (possibly renamed). I do not understand why George H.W. Bush is not included, even though he was not his father's immediate successor. However the category should either exclude monarchies or treat them (together) as a single subcategory. A title that would bring in Justin Trudeau might be appropriate, though he is head of government, not head of state. Peterkingiron ( talk) 19:34, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per NONDEF. Ludicrous category. No Great Shaker ( talk) 23:08, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Smerge any articles/categories on the families overall into ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Political families - other than that, delete. Grutness... wha? 23:51, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Why exactly is not Elizabeth II on this list? For most of human history most states had the explicit plan that in most cases the new head would be the child of the last. To be fair most states in human history were extremely small, and lots of them we do not have articles on. Despite our claim that all heads of state are default notable, we probably have articles on less than half of all heads of state ever. However that does not change the fact that this is way, way too common to de defining. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:28, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Weak delete – As noted by others, the title of this category is a bit wonky and unnecessarily contorted, and it is to some degree non-defining. The apparent intent here is to create a grouping of "Children of non-monarchical national leaders who became national leaders" (head of government and/or of state). That does not sound like an essential—defining—characteristics of an individual. Rather, it sounds like a title of a stand-alone list article. I would find such an article quite interesting.
Drdpw (
talk)
16:11, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Unless it should also have George W. Bush and John Quincy Adams, I believe it also has the idea of directly succeeding in there, so "Children of non-monarchial national leaders who became national leader direct after their parent". I also am not confident that the line between a monarchical and non-monarchical leader is clear enough to categorize on. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:44, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Poorly thought out, non-defining category. No value in lumping Bush Sr, Junior, a bunch of monarchs, and by the looks of the pending Philippines election, Ferdinand Marcos Sr. and Jr.. ValarianB ( talk) 20:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Suggest -- Category:Elected leaders following parent. Having two generations of the same family as elected leaders is unusual, but it applies to George Bush, Trudeau, William Pitt, Marcos. Similarly in North Korea, Syria, and a few more where elections are not free. Peterkingiron ( talk) 15:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- The word "elected" is questionable in cases when no free elections take place. There was an objection against this word earlier in this discussion as well. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Further comment (already voted delete): meanwhile George Bush junior has been removed from the category while Bush was positioned in the header of the category page as a prime example. Moreover, I think the category no longer contains any properly elected leader. If the category is kept (which is meanwhile even more dubious than before) the header of the category page should be rewritten. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:25, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: I have trimmed the header to read, This category is meant to include children who followed their parents as heads of state. It includes both dictators and elected leaders, but not royal successors. Drdpw ( talk) 18:54, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NONDEF Laurel Lodged ( talk) 11:12, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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Fishing communities
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 June 6#Fishing communities
Category:Fishing villages
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- The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
13:01, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Fishing villages to Category:Fishing communities
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT, both categories mainly consist of villages and towns. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:23, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. NavjotSR ( talk) 04:39, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:People using unaccredited degrees
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 18#Category:People using unaccredited degrees
Coffeehouses and cafés by city
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- The result of the discussion was: merge.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
13:15, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Amsterdam to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in the Netherlands and Category:Restaurants in Amsterdam
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Budapest to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Hungary and Category:Restaurants in Budapest
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Copenhagen to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Denmark and Category:Restaurants in Copenhagen
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Karachi to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Pakistan and Category:Restaurants in Karachi
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Lahore to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Pakistan and Category:Restaurants in Lahore
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Prague to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in the Czech Republic and Category:Restaurants in Prague
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only 2 or 3 articles in each of these categories. Note that the large majority of these establishments is not notable, even while a city may be full of them. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:42, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. NavjotSR ( talk) 04:40, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Arthur (TV series) mass media and merchandise
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- The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Smallcat. ★Trekker ( talk) 13:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. Only has a single entry. SamWilson989 ( talk)
- Merge per nom. NavjotSR ( talk) 04:40, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Lower Yangtze Mandarin
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:User cmn-juai and Category:User cmn-juai-N. – Fayenatic London 21:46, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: "jianghuai" is not a valid language code. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:25, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Rename to ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User juai (or ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User cmn-juai or ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User zh-juai) per the
ISO 639-6 language code for
Lower Yangtze Mandarin --
65.92.246.142 (
talk)
20:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Proposing that rename did occur to me, but I couldn't find any other categories for ISO 639-6 codes, so I assumed that was against some sort of convention. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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- @
Pppery: there doesn't seem to be consensus to delete. Do you have an opinion about which rename is preferable, ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User juai or ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User cmn-juai or ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User zh-juai?
Marcocapelle (
talk)
04:56, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- It still makes absolutely no sense to me why people think this category should be kept, but I guess if it is kept Category:User cmn-juai is the best name since the parent category is Category:User cmn * Pppery * it has begun... 14:18, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or rename to Category:User cmn-juai.. ― Qwerfjkl talk 14:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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Category:transit of Mercury
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- The result of the discussion was: keep (
non-admin closure)
Marcocapelle (
talk)
04:58, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:transit of Mercury to Category:Mercury transits
- Nominator's rationale: Wrong name. See "
talk:Mercury transit#wrong title". Nicole Sharp ( talk) 17:19, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose it is clearly being disputed at the article talk page. Work it out there first -- 65.92.247.17 ( talk) 22:24, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: either name is technically suitable. However, 'transit of Mercury' appears to have more frequent usage in published scientific papers than 'Mercury transit'. The current naming scheme is consistent with other transit articles. (Cf. Category:Astronomical transits.) But if we do change this then we should change the others based on the same logic. Praemonitus ( talk) 14:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Female harem anime and manga
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. Given the existence of the "male harem" counterpart, it will be appropriate to redirect the nominated category page. –
Fayenatic
London
21:32, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Female harem anime and manga to Category:Harem anime and manga
- Nominator's rationale: The harem genre is assumed to be female by default, thus why male-based harems are referred to as "reverse harems". This category is superfluous and represents overcategorization. Harems centered on female protagonists surrounded by female suitors can be grouped into Category:LGBT harem anime and manga. ThanatosApprentice ( talk) 21:01, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. NavjotSR ( talk) 04:39, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Condensed matter
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- The result of the discussion was:
soft merge (
non-admin closure)
Marcocapelle (
talk)
04:31, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Condensed matter to Category:Condensed matter physics
- Nominator's rationale: The scope of these two categories are nearly identical, and semantically "condensed matter" is physics terminology. They both point to condensed matter physics as the primary wiki article, and the only other thing in category Category:Condensed matter is Category:Solid-state chemistry. 〈 Forbes72 | Talk 〉 13:52, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:North African footballers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge North African to African, keep Category:African footballers. – Fayenatic London 13:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: These categories are not useful, we do not have categories for footballers of other world regions. S.A. Julio ( talk) 02:43, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio ( talk) 02:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support "Africa" is not a nation. There is no need for an "African" nationality category. The "in Africa" tree structure is preferable. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 09:30, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete both per nom and Laurel Lodged. Categories like this are only useful for actual nationalities. Imagine the scale of a European footballers category, ha! No Great Shaker ( talk) 10:54, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - as we have Category:European people, Category:European sportspeople, Category:African people, Category:African sportspeople, Category:North African people, (but not Category:North African sportspeople) etc it's a little difficult to grasp the objection to footballer subcats. ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:North African footballers could be upmerged to ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:African footballers (which should be a container category ... there is no implication that African denotes nationality). Oculi ( talk) 18:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note while we do have continental sportspeople categories, the only sport-specific continental categories that exist are for the individual disciplines of swimming and athletics. I do not see much of a purpose for this container category, all the nationality categories are already included in ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Association football players by nationality, and each nationality category is already a subcategory of the continental categories (for example, ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Algerian footballers is a few levels below ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:African sportspeople).
S.A. Julio (
talk)
01:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- We have them. We probably should not have them. Continents are places; they are not the exclusive abode of nationalities. Nations straddle multiple continents. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 12:26, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note while we do have continental sportspeople categories, the only sport-specific continental categories that exist are for the individual disciplines of swimming and athletics. I do not see much of a purpose for this container category, all the nationality categories are already included in ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Association football players by nationality, and each nationality category is already a subcategory of the continental categories (for example, ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Algerian footballers is a few levels below ‹The
template
Cat is being
considered for merging.›
Category:African sportspeople).
S.A. Julio (
talk)
01:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.› Category:African footballers per Oculi, but agree that ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.› Category:North African footballers should be merged into ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.› Category:African footballers and then deleted. Giant Snowman 19:55, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Merge Category:North African footballers to Category:African footballers, redundant category layer between continent and country. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep "Africa" There's a soccer region specifically for Africa, CAF. Thus soccer categories for the whole of Africa make sense. -- 65.92.246.142 ( talk) 04:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep and properly populate Category:African footballers as a container. This currently only contains North African items, meaning that the North African cat is useless and it should be deleted. A continent is an appropriate split. With about 200 countries, a global by country category would be inconveniently large for easy navigation. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:54, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete both We do not have Category:Asian footballers. This is another example of treating Africa as if it is a country. We should proactively work to stop such inaccurate practices. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:51, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Washington Football Team season stubs
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 12:54, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The team held the name of Washington Football Team for 2 seasons until being renamed to the Washington Commanders. Prior to that, the team was named the Washington Redskins. This page was moved from Washington Redskins player stubs on July 27th, 2020, as a result of the last team rebrand.
The category currently contains 57 pages and the name is not representative of the content within it, as the most recent season article in this category is for the 2003 season, before the team was even named the Washington Football Team. This category is meant to represent the franchise's season articles that are stubs, and it would make more sense to have it under the Washington Commanders name or to revert to the title it had pre-move (Washington Redskins season stubs). Hey man im josh ( talk) 19:41, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I note that Category:Cleveland Indians season stubs also exists and notably contains some pre-Indians named seasons. It may be worth renaming to Category:Cleveland Guardians season stubs if this precedent is followed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:22, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge/rename -- We should follow the practice of alumni categories where merged or renamed institutions take the name of the successor. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support - the designation of "Washington Commanders" is for the franchise, not just teams with that name. (The category actually already uses this logic, with the inclusion of seasons from the team's history in Boston before moving to Washington.) As such, the category name should be updated to reflect the current name of the franchise. - fuzzy510 ( talk) 05:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support, particularly since "football team" was only temporary.-- Mvqr ( talk) 10:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Songs written by Adriana Evans
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- The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:37, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category only contains redirects, no assistance to navigation. Richhoncho ( talk) 11:22, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not of any use. - fuzzy510 ( talk) 05:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Adriana Evans songs
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- The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:40, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category only contains 5 redirects. No assistance to navigation. Richhoncho ( talk) 11:21, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not of any use. - fuzzy510 ( talk) 05:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Rusyn villages
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. –
Fayenatic
London
14:24, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Rusyn villages to Category:Rusyn communities
- Propose merging Category:Rusyn cities to Category:Rusyn communities
- Nominator's rationale: The Rusyn communities category currently contains two subcategories - Rusyn cities and Rusyn villages. I do not think these categories are needed. It would be much more practical to sort communities by their country like in the Ukrainian communities category, not by type.
YoungstownToast (
talk)
23:03, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- I took the liberty to merge the two nominations. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:54, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Marcocapelle,
cats do not appear merged at the moment...?Edit: nevermind. KaerbaqianRen 💬 07:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Marcocapelle,
:* Support
KaerbaqianRen
💬
07:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment -- When a general change was made some years ago, the target was "populated places", not communities. Peterkingiron ( talk) 19:41, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NONDEF, many articles do not contain any information about Rusyns and where there is information (e.g. in the articles of the five cities) the Rusyns are a very small minority. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:39, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Query In what sense are they Rusyn? Are they 100% Rusyn? Is it 1 old lady and her Rusyn cat? Would it be more accurate to state
Category:Populated places with Rusyn majorities? Can we guarantee that they are majorities? If not, what's the purpose of the categories?
Laurel Lodged (
talk)
16:30, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- None of the villages/cities are 100% Rusyn. Some of them have Rusyn majorities, but not all. The villages/cities listed have Rusyns, Rusyn speakers, or had Rusyns historically. YoungstownToast ( talk) 18:39, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Marcocapelle and NONDEF. Just took a look at some of the articles and, like Ňagov for example, there is nothing there to define them as Rusyn communities. No Great Shaker ( talk) 11:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
KeepSupport The proposition that this category could be WP:NONDEF makes no sense as whether communities are wholely Rusyn or majority Rusyn (presently or historically) is simple to establish through proper sourcing. (I would argue based on the work of historians such as Paul Robert Magocsi that the significance of some of these locales as Rusyn cultural centers is independent of majority population.) Additionally, the inclusion of data within the category can easily be supported through sources from historians and modern or historical censuses. I can go through the locations myself, one-by-one, and provide the relevant sources, but the process will take a couple weeks.
- In my opinion, making an attempt to define and source the information would be more constructive than attempting a drive-by deletion.
- Edit (18:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)): Above position changed. Previous vote struck.
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KaerbaqianRen
💬
21:19, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
-
KaerbaqianRen, you appear to have registered two votes here. You can't do that. Please strike one of them out.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
21:55, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out. I misunderstood the purpose of the "relisting" KaerbaqianRen 💬 18:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- We do not categorize populated places by every small ethnic minority. If you find sources to prove the existance of these minorities, feel free to start a list instead of a category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Your assertion above does not fall under WP:NONDEF; I'm not sure which guidelines it would. However, this is already quite a substantial category and yet at the moment mostly consisting only of locations within Slovakia. It has potential for expansion with further inclusion of locations in Galicia and Zakarpattia Oblast. And in that regard, is not WP:SMALL--if that is what you are trying to express. KaerbaqianRen 💬 18:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- I wasn't suggesting WP:SMALL. As mentioned earlier, WP:NONDEF is applicable here. Populated places aren't primarily known for every small ethnic minority that lives there. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:14, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Regardless, these locations are historically majority Rusyn at least as far back as beginning of the 19th century and through the mid-to-late 20th century.
-
KaerbaqianRen, you appear to have registered two votes here. You can't do that. Please strike one of them out.
No Great Shaker (
talk)
21:55, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- See: Magocsi, Paul Robert (1997). "Mapping Stateless Peoples: The East Slavs of the Carpathians". Canadian Slavonic Papers / Revue Canadienne des Slavistes. 39 (3/4): 301–331. ISSN 0008-5006.
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KaerbaqianRen
💬
05:40, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- While that may be the case, it is still not a defining characteristic of these villages. It could be source material for a new article though. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:36, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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KaerbaqianRen
💬
05:40, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:NONDEF. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:29, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Conradiner family members
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- The result of the discussion was: soft merge.
(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
12:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Conradiner family members to Category:House of Conradin
- Nominator's rationale: merge, unneeded diffusion because no articles are left in the parent category. Other family categories do not have this kind of diffusion. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Church Slavonic writers
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to
Category:Old Church Slavonic writers. After the category was populated, editors agree that this is a viable category.
(non-admin closure) –
LaundryPizza03 (
d
c̄)
14:34, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Church Slavonic writers to Category:Old Church Slavonic writers
- Nominator's rationale: Looking at the category's description and contents, this is about
Old Church Slavonic, not
Church Slavonic. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 ( talk) 14:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, neither of the two articles is explicit about the language in which these authors wrote. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:20, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Purge articles of which it is not clear whether they belong here or belong in the renamed category. (Note that I am open to someone improving the articles in this respect.) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:29, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment -- I am puzzled by this one as to what the difference is between Old and New Church Slavonic. One of the criteria seems to be whether it is written in Glagolitic or Cyrillic script. My guess is that the works of the two authors remained current as a result of being transcribed into the later script.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
15:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as SMALLCAT and unclear, or expand. ― Qwerfjkl talk 13:06, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Rename and populate based on Old Church Slavonic#Authors. – Fayenatic London 08:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Rename, after populating the category it is evident that it is about Old Church Slavonic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:29, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Children who followed their parents as heads of state
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. There was no suitable title for renaming suggested or supported. If any user wants to create a list, the contents were:
Extended content
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|---|
- Nominator's rationale: While this may fit Category:Nepotism, ultimately this looks WP:NONDEF, with weird title. Brandmeister talk 16:59, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, if fully populated the category would mainly contain monarchs. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment -- I created the category to help document how many national leaders are children of previous leaders, in non-dynastic families. I think this is a very useful category. It may not be a hugely significant trait in the life of any single person, but collectively, as a category, I think this list of names documents a cluster of similar patterns. I await the replies of the community. Pete unseth ( talk) 18:00, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- If this is a notable topic at all it would be better to create a list. Besides if this is not about monarchs the page title should clearly say so. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:07, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NONDEF, not a hugely significant trait in the life of any single person in this category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:07, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Retain - As Marcocapelle noted, this category is "not a hugely significant trait in the life of any single person in this category". My idea for this category is not that it is so significant in the life of each, but rather that the groups is significant. Pete unseth ( talk) 18:17, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- That is not in line with WP:DEFINING, it should be significant for each. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:19, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep but rename. It seems that the intent is to include elected leaders who are not technically head of state (i.e. Westminster parliaments) and to exclude monarchs and dynastic families (for whom this feature is assumed, and non-defining). How about "Elected leaders who are children of former elected leaders"? I'm sure a better wordsmith can come up with something more fitting. I disagree about nepotism: besides the Kims (who are a dynastic family) most of the names on this list were not appointed to their position by their parent.
Ivanvector (
Talk/
Edits)
18:29, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- I also disagree about non-defining: besides the Kims (who I didn't check) all but one of the current member articles mentions that person's parent in the lede, and with only two exceptions in the first paragraph. Anecdotally:
Justin Trudeau (who is not currently on the list but there's a dispute about adding the category on that talk page) hasn't done a single controversial thing in his entire premiership without some white-haired pundit comparing his action to what they surmise his father,
Pierre Trudeau, would have done in the same circumstance. However, reading through these articles it's clear that "elected" is completely the wrong word to use.
Ivanvector (
Talk/
Edits)
18:36, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- And all that being said, I also endorse the creation of a list article for this (under a better title) though the existence of a list doesn't automatically preclude the existence of a companion category. Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 18:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- I also disagree about non-defining: besides the Kims (who I didn't check) all but one of the current member articles mentions that person's parent in the lede, and with only two exceptions in the first paragraph. Anecdotally:
Justin Trudeau (who is not currently on the list but there's a dispute about adding the category on that talk page) hasn't done a single controversial thing in his entire premiership without some white-haired pundit comparing his action to what they surmise his father,
Pierre Trudeau, would have done in the same circumstance. However, reading through these articles it's clear that "elected" is completely the wrong word to use.
Ivanvector (
Talk/
Edits)
18:36, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep (possibly renamed). I do not understand why George H.W. Bush is not included, even though he was not his father's immediate successor. However the category should either exclude monarchies or treat them (together) as a single subcategory. A title that would bring in Justin Trudeau might be appropriate, though he is head of government, not head of state. Peterkingiron ( talk) 19:34, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per NONDEF. Ludicrous category. No Great Shaker ( talk) 23:08, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Smerge any articles/categories on the families overall into ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Political families - other than that, delete. Grutness... wha? 23:51, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Why exactly is not Elizabeth II on this list? For most of human history most states had the explicit plan that in most cases the new head would be the child of the last. To be fair most states in human history were extremely small, and lots of them we do not have articles on. Despite our claim that all heads of state are default notable, we probably have articles on less than half of all heads of state ever. However that does not change the fact that this is way, way too common to de defining. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:28, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Weak delete – As noted by others, the title of this category is a bit wonky and unnecessarily contorted, and it is to some degree non-defining. The apparent intent here is to create a grouping of "Children of non-monarchical national leaders who became national leaders" (head of government and/or of state). That does not sound like an essential—defining—characteristics of an individual. Rather, it sounds like a title of a stand-alone list article. I would find such an article quite interesting.
Drdpw (
talk)
16:11, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Unless it should also have George W. Bush and John Quincy Adams, I believe it also has the idea of directly succeeding in there, so "Children of non-monarchial national leaders who became national leader direct after their parent". I also am not confident that the line between a monarchical and non-monarchical leader is clear enough to categorize on. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:44, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Poorly thought out, non-defining category. No value in lumping Bush Sr, Junior, a bunch of monarchs, and by the looks of the pending Philippines election, Ferdinand Marcos Sr. and Jr.. ValarianB ( talk) 20:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Suggest -- Category:Elected leaders following parent. Having two generations of the same family as elected leaders is unusual, but it applies to George Bush, Trudeau, William Pitt, Marcos. Similarly in North Korea, Syria, and a few more where elections are not free. Peterkingiron ( talk) 15:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- The word "elected" is questionable in cases when no free elections take place. There was an objection against this word earlier in this discussion as well. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Further comment (already voted delete): meanwhile George Bush junior has been removed from the category while Bush was positioned in the header of the category page as a prime example. Moreover, I think the category no longer contains any properly elected leader. If the category is kept (which is meanwhile even more dubious than before) the header of the category page should be rewritten. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:25, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: I have trimmed the header to read, This category is meant to include children who followed their parents as heads of state. It includes both dictators and elected leaders, but not royal successors. Drdpw ( talk) 18:54, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NONDEF Laurel Lodged ( talk) 11:12, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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Fishing communities
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 June 6#Fishing communities
Category:Fishing villages
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(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
13:01, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Fishing villages to Category:Fishing communities
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT, both categories mainly consist of villages and towns. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:23, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. NavjotSR ( talk) 04:39, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:People using unaccredited degrees
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 18#Category:People using unaccredited degrees
Coffeehouses and cafés by city
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(non-admin closure)
Qwerfjkl
talk
13:15, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Amsterdam to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in the Netherlands and Category:Restaurants in Amsterdam
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Budapest to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Hungary and Category:Restaurants in Budapest
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Copenhagen to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Denmark and Category:Restaurants in Copenhagen
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Karachi to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Pakistan and Category:Restaurants in Karachi
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Lahore to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Pakistan and Category:Restaurants in Lahore
- Propose merging Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in Prague to Category:Coffeehouses and cafés in the Czech Republic and Category:Restaurants in Prague
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only 2 or 3 articles in each of these categories. Note that the large majority of these establishments is not notable, even while a city may be full of them. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:42, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. NavjotSR ( talk) 04:40, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Arthur (TV series) mass media and merchandise
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- The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Smallcat. ★Trekker ( talk) 13:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. Only has a single entry. SamWilson989 ( talk)
- Merge per nom. NavjotSR ( talk) 04:40, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Lower Yangtze Mandarin
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:User cmn-juai and Category:User cmn-juai-N. – Fayenatic London 21:46, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: "jianghuai" is not a valid language code. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:25, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Rename to ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User juai (or ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User cmn-juai or ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User zh-juai) per the
ISO 639-6 language code for
Lower Yangtze Mandarin --
65.92.246.142 (
talk)
20:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Proposing that rename did occur to me, but I couldn't find any other categories for ISO 639-6 codes, so I assumed that was against some sort of convention. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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- @
Pppery: there doesn't seem to be consensus to delete. Do you have an opinion about which rename is preferable, ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User juai or ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User cmn-juai or ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:User zh-juai?
Marcocapelle (
talk)
04:56, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- It still makes absolutely no sense to me why people think this category should be kept, but I guess if it is kept Category:User cmn-juai is the best name since the parent category is Category:User cmn * Pppery * it has begun... 14:18, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or rename to Category:User cmn-juai.. ― Qwerfjkl talk 14:03, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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Category:transit of Mercury
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- The result of the discussion was: keep (
non-admin closure)
Marcocapelle (
talk)
04:58, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:transit of Mercury to Category:Mercury transits
- Nominator's rationale: Wrong name. See "
talk:Mercury transit#wrong title". Nicole Sharp ( talk) 17:19, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose it is clearly being disputed at the article talk page. Work it out there first -- 65.92.247.17 ( talk) 22:24, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: either name is technically suitable. However, 'transit of Mercury' appears to have more frequent usage in published scientific papers than 'Mercury transit'. The current naming scheme is consistent with other transit articles. (Cf. Category:Astronomical transits.) But if we do change this then we should change the others based on the same logic. Praemonitus ( talk) 14:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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