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Category:Sports venues in Decatur, Illinois

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:48, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Five of seven pages are redirects – Aidan721 ( talk) 22:28, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:National Hockey League venues by team

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 5#Category:National Hockey League venues by team

Historians of religion

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Category:Trinity Parish Church (Seattle)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:50, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No need to have a category for a single entry about topic. -- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:20, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Animated television series about teenagers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:51, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not a WP:CATDEF. There are dozens if not hundreds of animated television series featuring teenagers, which is inevitable as many of these series are targeted at young children/preteens/young adults, and we have other categories for those. The numerous shows in this category otherwise have very little in common, and, as far as I can tell, sources are not referring to nor discussing these series as "being about teenagers". silvia ( User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) ( inquire within) 13:51, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wives of the Beatles

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 5#Category:Wives of the Beatles

Category:Ports and harbours in Yemen

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:52, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Same scope as Category:Ports and harbours of Yemen. DB1729 talk 13:12, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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Buildings and structures by style

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The result of the discussion was: rename/merge. ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:04, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: With a couple of minor exceptions, these are intermediate container categories holding only sub-cats titled "architecture" rather than "buildings", and there is nothing to distinguish them from the Architecture by country and period or style hierarchy which was recently renamed (see CFD Sept 2). A few have only one sub-cat, in which case I have proposed upmerging instead of renaming. – Fayenatic London 15:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 08:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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Category:House impeachment managers

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:55, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERCAT / WP:CATDEFINING. These individuals are notable for being in the U.S. House and are otherwise already categorized in Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives. Being impeachment managers is not a defining characteristic. Likewise for the defenders. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 01:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. Nominator's rationale is greatly flawed. If prime notability is the only defining characteristic were are to organize by, most, if not all, sub-categories of Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives should be deleted. Organizing the defense for an impeached individual before the senate (being a defender) or prosecuting a president, judge, or cabinet official before the Senate is indeed a rare and noteworthy credential. Particularly in presidential impeachments. Some individuals only received national notability due to holding these roles, in fact, and were backbench congresspeople prior to that. SecretName101 ( talk) 02:57, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Tend to support, the biographies in these categories are very brief in describing what each of the individuals did or achieved while they were in this position. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:51, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Is that a fault of the article's coverage though? In many cases, I'd say so. Plenty of these congressmen have bare-bones articles that do not elaborate at all on any aspect of their congressional tenure with more than a sentence or two. SecretName101 ( talk) 17:28, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
SecretName101 ( talk) 21:49, 21 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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  • Support — after consulting with the former Member of Congress in my home, this is simply WP:NONDEFINING and WP:OCTRIVIA. Nobody is best known for prosecuting or defending an impeachment (those members are usually the most well known and respected chairs of committees), or carrying the impeachment papers from the House to the Senate and attending the Senate hearings (ceremonial), or even holding press conferences about them. That public notoriety is temporary. Instead, impeachment managers should be listed in the impeachment articles, and navigated thusly.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 05:53, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
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Category:Anti-patterns

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 5#Category:Anti-patterns

Category:English-language education

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 5#Category:English-language education

Category:Adult comics

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering ( talk) 19:20, 10 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: These two categories ( Category:Adult comics) and Category:Children's comics) seem to be rather arbitrary, many comics are intended for both or intended for one and read by the other. In Europe at least, nearly all the comics listed here as for children are read widely by adults, and at least some of the "adult" comics like De Kiekeboes are read very frequently by young children, while most in this category are ready by adolescents. Vice versa, things like Calvin and Hobbes are listed as children's comics, but are probably more popular among adults. Some like Asterix are already included in both, making it rather poor defining characteristics. Fram ( talk) 08:44, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 09:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Comment While I'm mostly indifferent to whether these should be deleted or not, if they get kept, there needs to be a stricter criteria for what gets included. Articles should only be included if their inclusion is supported by WP:RS, not just because a comic "looks like" it's for a certain audience because of stereotypes. Zerbu Talk 10:26, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    • I don't know how this could be accomplished... Maybe by emptying the categories except for a nominal number of ideal members, and then letting them fill up again, but this time under a particular guidance about this. (But where to advertise the guidance?) — Alalch E. 19:27, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 08:34, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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Category:Sports venues in West Sacramento, California

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:00, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (one page). Merge to county-level. – Aidan721 ( talk) 01:19, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sports venues in Stockton, California

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:01, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (one page). Merge to Sports in Stockton, California. – Aidan721 ( talk) 01:16, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
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December 28

Category:Sports venues in Decatur, Illinois

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:48, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Five of seven pages are redirects – Aidan721 ( talk) 22:28, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:National Hockey League venues by team

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 5#Category:National Hockey League venues by team

Historians of religion

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 5#Historians of religion

Category:Trinity Parish Church (Seattle)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:50, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No need to have a category for a single entry about topic. -- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:20, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Animated television series about teenagers

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:51, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not a WP:CATDEF. There are dozens if not hundreds of animated television series featuring teenagers, which is inevitable as many of these series are targeted at young children/preteens/young adults, and we have other categories for those. The numerous shows in this category otherwise have very little in common, and, as far as I can tell, sources are not referring to nor discussing these series as "being about teenagers". silvia ( User:BlankpopsiclesilviaASHs4) ( inquire within) 13:51, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Wives of the Beatles

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 5#Category:Wives of the Beatles

Category:Ports and harbours in Yemen

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:52, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Same scope as Category:Ports and harbours of Yemen. DB1729 talk 13:12, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Buildings and structures by style

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename/merge. ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:04, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: With a couple of minor exceptions, these are intermediate container categories holding only sub-cats titled "architecture" rather than "buildings", and there is nothing to distinguish them from the Architecture by country and period or style hierarchy which was recently renamed (see CFD Sept 2). A few have only one sub-cat, in which case I have proposed upmerging instead of renaming. – Fayenatic London 15:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 08:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:House impeachment managers

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:55, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERCAT / WP:CATDEFINING. These individuals are notable for being in the U.S. House and are otherwise already categorized in Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives. Being impeachment managers is not a defining characteristic. Likewise for the defenders. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 01:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. Nominator's rationale is greatly flawed. If prime notability is the only defining characteristic were are to organize by, most, if not all, sub-categories of Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives should be deleted. Organizing the defense for an impeached individual before the senate (being a defender) or prosecuting a president, judge, or cabinet official before the Senate is indeed a rare and noteworthy credential. Particularly in presidential impeachments. Some individuals only received national notability due to holding these roles, in fact, and were backbench congresspeople prior to that. SecretName101 ( talk) 02:57, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Tend to support, the biographies in these categories are very brief in describing what each of the individuals did or achieved while they were in this position. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:51, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    Is that a fault of the article's coverage though? In many cases, I'd say so. Plenty of these congressmen have bare-bones articles that do not elaborate at all on any aspect of their congressional tenure with more than a sentence or two. SecretName101 ( talk) 17:28, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
SecretName101 ( talk) 21:49, 21 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 08:43, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Support — after consulting with the former Member of Congress in my home, this is simply WP:NONDEFINING and WP:OCTRIVIA. Nobody is best known for prosecuting or defending an impeachment (those members are usually the most well known and respected chairs of committees), or carrying the impeachment papers from the House to the Senate and attending the Senate hearings (ceremonial), or even holding press conferences about them. That public notoriety is temporary. Instead, impeachment managers should be listed in the impeachment articles, and navigated thusly.
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 05:53, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Anti-patterns

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 5#Category:Anti-patterns

Category:English-language education

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 5#Category:English-language education

Category:Adult comics

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering ( talk) 19:20, 10 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: These two categories ( Category:Adult comics) and Category:Children's comics) seem to be rather arbitrary, many comics are intended for both or intended for one and read by the other. In Europe at least, nearly all the comics listed here as for children are read widely by adults, and at least some of the "adult" comics like De Kiekeboes are read very frequently by young children, while most in this category are ready by adolescents. Vice versa, things like Calvin and Hobbes are listed as children's comics, but are probably more popular among adults. Some like Asterix are already included in both, making it rather poor defining characteristics. Fram ( talk) 08:44, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 09:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Comment While I'm mostly indifferent to whether these should be deleted or not, if they get kept, there needs to be a stricter criteria for what gets included. Articles should only be included if their inclusion is supported by WP:RS, not just because a comic "looks like" it's for a certain audience because of stereotypes. Zerbu Talk 10:26, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply
    • I don't know how this could be accomplished... Maybe by emptying the categories except for a nominal number of ideal members, and then letting them fill up again, but this time under a particular guidance about this. (But where to advertise the guidance?) — Alalch E. 19:27, 20 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 08:34, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Sports venues in West Sacramento, California

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:00, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (one page). Merge to county-level. – Aidan721 ( talk) 01:19, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Sports venues in Stockton, California

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 20:01, 5 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (one page). Merge to Sports in Stockton, California. – Aidan721 ( talk) 01:16, 28 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
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