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May 28

Category:Unofficial leaders

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The result of the discussion was: Procedural close. Nominated for speedy renaming by author per WP:C2E. (non-admin closure) ―  Tartan357  Talk 22:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia is not for WP:RIGHTINGGREATWRONGS. It is not our job to determine who the rightful leaders of nations are. Both leaders in this category so far currently wield very real political power. ―  Tartan357  Talk 21:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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1863 establishments in Nebraska

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The result of the discussion was: rename. I see no reason not to also rename the parent Category:1863 in Nebraska to Category:1863 in Nebraska Territory under WP:G6. – Fayenatic London 14:03, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:LGGS objects

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The result of the discussion was: WP:SOFTDELETE for now. I can't even find an explanation of Local Group Galaxy Survey in Wikipedia; LGGS redirects to a school. – Fayenatic London 08:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Small category with no realistic chance of ever having more than a handful of members. Very few astronomical objects from this catalogue will be notable since they are extremely faint and in external galaxies. Lithopsian ( talk) 19:16, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Iranian people

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The result of the discussion was: do not rename. I will create a redirect on the proposed target category. It looks like there may be possible to reach a consensus to use "Iranian" rather than "Persian" for other pre-1925 categories. Not referred to in this discussion but also relevant is this 2018 discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:36, 16 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Before 1925 the country seems to have been more generally known as Persia. The subcategories, going back many centuries, are sometimes called Persian and sometimes Iranian, without any obvious reason for the difference. Can we agree on some sort of uniformity? Rathfelder ( talk) 18:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I agree that a deliberate distinction was probably not intended. Articles about Persian, Azerbaijani and Kurdish people in Iran may well occur in all these Iranian and Persian categories. When all of this is to become more consistent, Iranian is preferable over Persian, unless we say "of the Persian Empire". But the latter is largely deprecated in en.wp and replaced by Safavid Iran etc. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:56, 29 May 2021 (UTC) reply
I'm quite happy to switch all the Persian categories to Iranian if that makes more sense. I dont like different names for the same thing. Safavid Iran covered a much bigger territory, so it would be better as a parent for Iranian categories. Rathfelder ( talk) 14:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I'm sort of fascinated of being witness of skirmishes between all those dedicated world historians among us. ;-) Sorry, but I never took interest in Iran except for past Pahlevi war times. -- Just N. ( talk) 17:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose We're in 2021, not pre-1925, times are different. 'Iranian' (which is the more correct variant) is commonly used in scholarship to refer to pre-1925 Iran and its people. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 17:59, 6 June 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I claim no expertise here at all, but it's apparent from looking at the articles that these are not intended to be different. Rathfelder ( talk) 21:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st century in Suva

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:10, 5 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, not enough history in Suva articles for a split by century. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Television series with screenplays selected in The Black List

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not WP:DEFINING - not even mentioned in either daughter article. Le Deluge ( talk) 15:37, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Presidents of Iqra Rozatul Atfal Trust

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No article for the Trust, no indication of notability. Le Deluge ( talk) 14:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Types

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 5 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Recreated old Cfd and started a discussing in the talk page. But supposedly nobody monitors category talk pages so here we are; Many kinds and synonyms of types, what about form? systems? kinds? Not asking for re-deletion just a category explanation. Dpleibovitz ( talk) 14:53, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ancient Roman plebeians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING, all non- patricians were plebeians. If complete, this category would have to be colossal. Avilich ( talk) 12:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ancient Roman proconsuls

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 13#Category:Ancient Roman proconsuls

Category:ALL Email Migration

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete, WP:G11 Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:19, 30 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category is empty and this page contains only unsourced promotional material. Anton.bersh ( talk) 10:31, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ambassadors of Estonia to the Romania

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The result of the discussion was: procedural close, the nomination has been moved to WP:CFDS ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Grammar. Super Ψ Dro 08:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Speedy rename. I created the category and it was an obvious mistake. Uncontroversial renaming. ExRat ( talk) 08:30, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:B. R. Ambedkar

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The result of the discussion was: keep but purge of contents where the category is not WP:DEFINING.– Fayenatic London 11:56, 27 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: containerize, the articles in the category are on the one hand a violation of WP:SHAREDNAME and on the other hand a violation of WP:NONDEF. An example of the latter is Finance Commission. The category should not be deleted because a number of subcategories are defining. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Reply Thank you for raising those examples. I just added those and several other articles to Category:Cultural depictions of B. R. Ambedkar or subcats, hopefully with the consensus of other editors (see my recent edit history before this time stamp). At this point, I'm comfortable with containerization. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 02:37, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply
I think Poona Pact and Mahad Satyagraha would still be appropriately categorized in the nominated category. Am I wrong about this? Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Scholars of Islam, or Islamic studies scholars

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The result of the discussion was: split per Option B. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC) reply
OPTION A
OPTION B
Nominator's rationale: the top category and its subcategories are out of sync. It should be either "scholars of Islam" or "Islamic studies scholars", but at least consistently applied. Note that it concerns more than just the name, because Islamic studies is a specific academic study, so it has a much narrower scope than "scholars of Islam". Option A is definitely the easier solution, while option B is more precise (but possibly more precise than needed). Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:41, 28 April 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:51, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Split per nom. But I confess to have some doubts: could Islamic studies scholars be just the Western Colleges name of nowadays and the other the older one from Arabic institutions of higher education? -- Just N. ( talk) 17:34, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sokol members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:04, 5 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:TRIVIALCAT)
Sokol was founded in 1862 popular Czech gymnastics program, especially amongst youth, which later spread to Poland as " Sokół". For most people this was just an enjoyable physical activity and patriotic group but a few people like Alois Hudec and Miroslav Klinger became prominent gymnasts which is why they are already under Category:Olympic gymnasts of Czechoslovakia. Simple being in a membership organization is rarely defining though. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Roman Catholic Freemasons

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:22, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCEGRS)
While the Freemasons welcome Catholics to join, multiple Popes have repeatedly held that Freemasonry is incompatible with Catholicism and could lead to excommunication. I could certainly imagine this combination being defining but it's not in practice because the violation is so widespread and enforcement so lax. Composer Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and President John Kufuor both seem to have been publicly Catholic and Freemasons with no repercussions. The only biographies I found that discussed the combination were two ordained priests ( 1 and 2) who both created controversy, but no sanction, for publicly supporting Freemasonry. Wikipedia has potentially thousands of biography articles with this technically forbidden but common combination and all the current articles are in separate categories for Catholics and Freemasons so no merges are needed. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
They're right here and I'm happy to expand the cat if that's the consensus. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 01:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Iranian people imprisoned in USA

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The result of the discussion was: procedural close, nomination has been moved to WP:CFDS. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:27, 29 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per C2B; Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices.
USA should be United States. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 00:10, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Very well, I withdraw my nomination and will request for speedy rename. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 15:30, 29 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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May 28

Category:Unofficial leaders

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The result of the discussion was: Procedural close. Nominated for speedy renaming by author per WP:C2E. (non-admin closure) ―  Tartan357  Talk 22:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia is not for WP:RIGHTINGGREATWRONGS. It is not our job to determine who the rightful leaders of nations are. Both leaders in this category so far currently wield very real political power. ―  Tartan357  Talk 21:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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1863 establishments in Nebraska

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The result of the discussion was: rename. I see no reason not to also rename the parent Category:1863 in Nebraska to Category:1863 in Nebraska Territory under WP:G6. – Fayenatic London 14:03, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:LGGS objects

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The result of the discussion was: WP:SOFTDELETE for now. I can't even find an explanation of Local Group Galaxy Survey in Wikipedia; LGGS redirects to a school. – Fayenatic London 08:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Small category with no realistic chance of ever having more than a handful of members. Very few astronomical objects from this catalogue will be notable since they are extremely faint and in external galaxies. Lithopsian ( talk) 19:16, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:19th-century Iranian people

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The result of the discussion was: do not rename. I will create a redirect on the proposed target category. It looks like there may be possible to reach a consensus to use "Iranian" rather than "Persian" for other pre-1925 categories. Not referred to in this discussion but also relevant is this 2018 discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:36, 16 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Before 1925 the country seems to have been more generally known as Persia. The subcategories, going back many centuries, are sometimes called Persian and sometimes Iranian, without any obvious reason for the difference. Can we agree on some sort of uniformity? Rathfelder ( talk) 18:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I agree that a deliberate distinction was probably not intended. Articles about Persian, Azerbaijani and Kurdish people in Iran may well occur in all these Iranian and Persian categories. When all of this is to become more consistent, Iranian is preferable over Persian, unless we say "of the Persian Empire". But the latter is largely deprecated in en.wp and replaced by Safavid Iran etc. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:56, 29 May 2021 (UTC) reply
I'm quite happy to switch all the Persian categories to Iranian if that makes more sense. I dont like different names for the same thing. Safavid Iran covered a much bigger territory, so it would be better as a parent for Iranian categories. Rathfelder ( talk) 14:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I'm sort of fascinated of being witness of skirmishes between all those dedicated world historians among us. ;-) Sorry, but I never took interest in Iran except for past Pahlevi war times. -- Just N. ( talk) 17:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose We're in 2021, not pre-1925, times are different. 'Iranian' (which is the more correct variant) is commonly used in scholarship to refer to pre-1925 Iran and its people. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 17:59, 6 June 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I claim no expertise here at all, but it's apparent from looking at the articles that these are not intended to be different. Rathfelder ( talk) 21:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:21st century in Suva

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:10, 5 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, not enough history in Suva articles for a split by century. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Television series with screenplays selected in The Black List

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not WP:DEFINING - not even mentioned in either daughter article. Le Deluge ( talk) 15:37, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Presidents of Iqra Rozatul Atfal Trust

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: No article for the Trust, no indication of notability. Le Deluge ( talk) 14:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Types

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 5 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Recreated old Cfd and started a discussing in the talk page. But supposedly nobody monitors category talk pages so here we are; Many kinds and synonyms of types, what about form? systems? kinds? Not asking for re-deletion just a category explanation. Dpleibovitz ( talk) 14:53, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ancient Roman plebeians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING, all non- patricians were plebeians. If complete, this category would have to be colossal. Avilich ( talk) 12:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ancient Roman proconsuls

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 13#Category:Ancient Roman proconsuls

Category:ALL Email Migration

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete, WP:G11 Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:19, 30 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category is empty and this page contains only unsourced promotional material. Anton.bersh ( talk) 10:31, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ambassadors of Estonia to the Romania

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The result of the discussion was: procedural close, the nomination has been moved to WP:CFDS ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Grammar. Super Ψ Dro 08:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Speedy rename. I created the category and it was an obvious mistake. Uncontroversial renaming. ExRat ( talk) 08:30, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:B. R. Ambedkar

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The result of the discussion was: keep but purge of contents where the category is not WP:DEFINING.– Fayenatic London 11:56, 27 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: containerize, the articles in the category are on the one hand a violation of WP:SHAREDNAME and on the other hand a violation of WP:NONDEF. An example of the latter is Finance Commission. The category should not be deleted because a number of subcategories are defining. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Reply Thank you for raising those examples. I just added those and several other articles to Category:Cultural depictions of B. R. Ambedkar or subcats, hopefully with the consensus of other editors (see my recent edit history before this time stamp). At this point, I'm comfortable with containerization. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 02:37, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply
I think Poona Pact and Mahad Satyagraha would still be appropriately categorized in the nominated category. Am I wrong about this? Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Scholars of Islam, or Islamic studies scholars

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The result of the discussion was: split per Option B. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC) reply
OPTION A
OPTION B
Nominator's rationale: the top category and its subcategories are out of sync. It should be either "scholars of Islam" or "Islamic studies scholars", but at least consistently applied. Note that it concerns more than just the name, because Islamic studies is a specific academic study, so it has a much narrower scope than "scholars of Islam". Option A is definitely the easier solution, while option B is more precise (but possibly more precise than needed). Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:41, 28 April 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:51, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Split per nom. But I confess to have some doubts: could Islamic studies scholars be just the Western Colleges name of nowadays and the other the older one from Arabic institutions of higher education? -- Just N. ( talk) 17:34, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sokol members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:04, 5 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:TRIVIALCAT)
Sokol was founded in 1862 popular Czech gymnastics program, especially amongst youth, which later spread to Poland as " Sokół". For most people this was just an enjoyable physical activity and patriotic group but a few people like Alois Hudec and Miroslav Klinger became prominent gymnasts which is why they are already under Category:Olympic gymnasts of Czechoslovakia. Simple being in a membership organization is rarely defining though. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Roman Catholic Freemasons

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:22, 23 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCEGRS)
While the Freemasons welcome Catholics to join, multiple Popes have repeatedly held that Freemasonry is incompatible with Catholicism and could lead to excommunication. I could certainly imagine this combination being defining but it's not in practice because the violation is so widespread and enforcement so lax. Composer Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and President John Kufuor both seem to have been publicly Catholic and Freemasons with no repercussions. The only biographies I found that discussed the combination were two ordained priests ( 1 and 2) who both created controversy, but no sanction, for publicly supporting Freemasonry. Wikipedia has potentially thousands of biography articles with this technically forbidden but common combination and all the current articles are in separate categories for Catholics and Freemasons so no merges are needed. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
They're right here and I'm happy to expand the cat if that's the consensus. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 01:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Iranian people imprisoned in USA

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The result of the discussion was: procedural close, nomination has been moved to WP:CFDS. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:27, 29 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per C2B; Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices.
USA should be United States. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 00:10, 28 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Very well, I withdraw my nomination and will request for speedy rename. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 15:30, 29 May 2021 (UTC) reply
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