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Category:Universities and colleges in Germany by city

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:49, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only content is 3 categories. Berlin and Hamburg are duplicated in Category:Universities and colleges in Germany by state, as they are both cities and states. Universities and colleges in Munich are already in Category:Universities and colleges in Bavaria. There are not so many German universities that they need two levels of categorisation.
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary intermediate category. Rathfelder ( talk) 23:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Support, per nom. Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 23:17, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
However, rather than delete the category, it would be more helpful to create more by-city categories. For example, Frankfurt could support such a category. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Hesse has several important cities each with a few universities and colleges of which Frankfurt is just one, others are e.g. Wiesbaden and Darmstadt. It is better to keep them all in the state category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:History of Nyasaland

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History of Malawi. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All of Nyasaland is history, as this is the name of the British protectorate in present-day Malawi between 1907 and 1963. There is little reason why 2 articles and 2 categories (for establishments and disestablishments) are singled out in a history subcategory, while e.g. ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.›  Category:Decades in Nyasaland is not. Place Clichy ( talk) 10:17, 25 May 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Would like to see some more discussion into which merge target is preferred, if a merge is indeed the best course of action.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac 1 5 22:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Television stations in Greensboro, North Carolina

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The result of the discussion was: rename. bibliomaniac 1 5 17:50, 11 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: More accurate market description Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 18:12, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ultra-peaks

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 05:52, 23 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category contains just the (nearly) eponymous article and one article about a peak (i.e. most ultras have not been categorized in this way). Articles about mountains are already well categorized (not least by mountains-of-country categories).  The Ultra-prominent peak article should be moved to Category:Mountains, Category:Topography and Category:Tallest things.  If not deleted the category should be renamed to Category:Ultra-prominent peaks to match the article. DexDor (talk) 16:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Many of the articles (e.g. Denali) don't mention the ultra status, although they do state the prominence, so I think it's a case where lists (which exist) are appropriate, but a category less so. DexDor (talk) 05:22, 7 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Leaning delete While many of the articles don't mention the ultra status upon a quick look through the lists it looked like most did mention it making it quite plausible that it is defining. The test for being defining is not what we say however so I took three different ultra prominent peaks opened the first few google search result and checked if they mentinoned them being ultra prominent and only very few did making me think that reliable sources don't commonly and consistently define these peaks as ultra prominent. -- Trialpears ( talk) 22:23, 11 July 2020 (UTC) reply
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Speculative fiction awards by country

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Sports trophies and awards by country

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Category:Asylum buildings in the United Kingdom

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Category:Vice-chancellors of Indian Universities

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Heads of universities and colleges in India Timrollpickering ( talk) 11:05, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Or delete. Unnecessary intersection of topics? Fuddle ( talk) 15:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:London newspapers

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The result of the discussion was: Do not merge. There is a clear consensus that "Newspapers published in London intended for a Greater London readership" and "Newspapers published in London" should have two different categories. There is however no consensus regarding what the names of these two categories should be. (non-admin closure) -- Trialpears ( talk) 22:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Both have the same purpose. — Yours, Berrely •  Talk∕ Contribs 13:45, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Pottery industry

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This has been on the uncategorized categories list for a while. I'm struggling to find a place for it. I guess "pottery" will do, but does Pottery Barn actually make pottery? Fuddle ( talk) 12:14, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
No, they don't, just sell some. Other contents were correctly in Category:Ceramics manufacturers of the United States. Either redirect to the (of course) huge global Category:Ceramics manufacturers or delete. Johnbod ( talk) 12:23, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Btw, I assumed this was created by some idiot newbie, but amazingly it was the experienced User:Rjensen, just this April. Alarming! Johnbod ( talk) 12:28, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
yes that was a poor idea on my part. "Category:Pottery" is sufficient and we can drop "pottery industry". Rjensen ( talk) 20:52, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
They are in a considerable mess, mainly because American museums, academics and so editors like to call all pottery "ceramics". Your definition is not at all correct - the vast majority of "pottery" of the last many centuries "includes glazes and can contain other media" - any types of porcelain for example, never mind fritware, which has very little clay. Pottery is what might be potted by a potter - the term is mainly defined by method of manufacture. You may be thinking of earthenware, but much of that is glazed. The real problem is that glass is also "ceramics". In practice our categories mostly exclude glass from ceramics, or at least split it out. Some sources may distinguish between pottery and porcelain, but we try to avoid that; there is no question that porcelain is pottery as much as earthenware or stoneware. But anyway, this category is not useful. Johnbod ( talk) 13:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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(Dis)establishments of 18th-century British ministries by year

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The result of the discussion was: Delete all Timrollpickering ( talk) 11:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
more disestablishments
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only one or occasionally two articles in a category. The articles are already in e.g. Category:1710 establishments in Great Britain and in Category:Ministries of Anne, Queen of Great Britain and the articles contain succession boxes, so the possibilities to navigate to related articles are sufficient anyway. Note that there is also one French article in this series (established 1792, disestablished 1794) but since it is the only article in those categories it still does not aid navigation in any way. Also note that we do not have 17th-century cabinets (dis)establishment categories, for exactly the same reason. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all Unnecessary Small categories, with no scope for expansion. The various ministries are adequately categorised. Furthermore the whole concept of a cabinet is an anachronism in the early 18th century. They did not meet as cabinets except in an antechamber where they waited to be called into the royal presence. I am not clear when cabinets began to meet as such, but it is not that early. Thus there are no Cabinet Minutes until WWI see [1]. Previously the meetings were less formal. Peterkingiron ( talk) 20:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. -- Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 01:54, 10 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Projectors (business)

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The result of the discussion was: merge the century categories into Category:English projectors, keep Category:Projectors (business). bibliomaniac 1 5 05:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge/delete per WP:SMALLCAT, three categories with one article each. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:23, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Oppose: For those with an interest in economic history it is clear that that term projector was in wide us in ENglish between the sixteenth and nineteenth centuries. It's meaning cannot be assimilated to that of Public–private partnership, a term which primarily arose in the nineteenth century.
As regards the limited membership of the categories Category:16th century English projector and Category:17th century English projectors this needs to be addressed by more work on the economic history of England to bring it up the sme sort of standards enjoyed by such important topics as Neighbours. Leutha ( talk) 10:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Oppose: We need the category for this particular class of business people, just as we have Category:British slave traders. I've already added William Petty to Category:17th century English projectors and there's going to be loads more! There's a wealth of material here. Leutha ( talk) 19:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
I would accept the merger of Category:16th century English projector and Category:17th century English projectors into Category:English projectors. Leutha ( talk) 11:54, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose or merge the centuries - do that by the individual articles. There are many bios that could be added. Johnbod ( talk) 13:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete and recateogorize the people to a "businesspeople" category. Possibly also listify (e.g. "Projectors included ..." on the eponymous article). The small number of articles doesn't warrant use of such an archaic term in wp categorization. DexDor (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Daeron

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The result of the discussion was: already deleted by Liz per WP:CSD#G6. bibliomaniac 1 5 05:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:HSOCK ("Only blocked accounts should be tagged as Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets and only upon sufficient evidence that would stand up to scrutiny."): Some of the edits by the tagged IPs show disruption but no reason was ever given why this category should have been created. I cannot find an SPI report. Links to a little more discussion are here. Johnuniq ( talk) 04:01, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
This was recently a subject of an ANI report raised by Daeron. I created the category some 10 years ago and had forgotten about it. Being familiar with Daeron's contribs, his position on the articles he edits, and the contribs of the IP's I listed in the category, it is very clear to me that some of them are certainly the same person, and others suspiciously similar.
However, if the category's existence is not supported by Wikipedia policy then I won't object to its removal. I have a screen shot of the IP's and their contributions are still there for anyone to see. I don't have time for the detective work to prove a sock case, and it's not current behaviour...as far as I'm aware. -- Merbabu ( talk) 05:10, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I suggest delection per consensus between nominator and creator.
  • The category and pages have an appearance of hounding harassment as is consistent with the creator's editing action immediatedly after making the above comment, evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Dutch_East_Indies&oldid=961028919 where the allegation of "original research" is unsupported and apperance of personal insult. It should be noted that my edit is some six months old and some twelve editors including User:Merbabu himself edited the article during the past six months without objection to my edit, it was only after User:Merbabu responded to this request for deletion that he has located and reverted my edit while also adding an allegation of original research. Daeron ( talk) 09:18, 11 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Procedural oppose. I have no view on the substantive merits, but this is the wrong place to deal with this.
The category is populated because the user pages are tagged with the template {{ sockpuppet}}, as {{sockpuppet|Daeron}}.
The only way to remove the user pages from this category is by no longer tagging the pages as sockpuppets.
If the tags are removed, then the category will be empty, and this eligible for speedy deletion per WP:C1. OTOH is the tags stay, so does the category.
So the issue here is not whether the category should exist, but whether the IPs should be tagged. And that decision belongs at WP:SPI, not at CFD. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:10, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
No one has taken this issue to SPI. All that has happened is that, nearly ten years ago, an editor chose to tag various IPs and, from the above, has nothing more than suspicion based on undisclosed grounds. As mentioned above, WP:HSOCK indicates that there should be no tags so I will remove them to empty the category. Johnuniq ( talk) 03:32, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Johnuniq, I don't know enough either way about the nuances of SPI procedure to form a view on that, so I AGF that you're doing the right thing here. My concern is solely that this isn't a CFD issue. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 04:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Understood, although the part of WP:HSOCK I quoted in the nomination seems clear. I asked a question at the template talk after seeing a rather unhelpful ANI discussion in March 2020. Then I searched around for examples of previous similar categories. I didn't find much but got a feeling that they have been nominated here in the past. Johnuniq ( talk) 04:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
As the original category creator, I've largely avoided commenting apart from my noting I have no objection to deletion. But, responding to @ Johnuniq's comment I have "nothing more than suspicion based on undisclosed grounds" and "unsupported sock accusation with no evidence"...I have noted that it's in the contribs of both Daeron and the IPs. To elaborate, Daeron and the IPs are WP:SPA editors - all their edits are soley focussed on the West Papua question, and a particularly anti-Indonesian POV, striking similarity. Interesting timing too. It would extraordinarily uncanny if there was more than one editor. Too coincidental for my liking. Once again...to be clear...I'm not trying to pursue this old sock "suspicion", however, if pot shots at me are going to continue, then maybe i do have to respond.
As I said, I have noted no objection to this deletion. I also note that I have no interest in pursuing old history by devoting hours to chasing the contribs up and eating up other editor's time, but as i note above, this clear socking behaviour has long since stopped. Possibly because I did raise it with Daeron?
My concerns with the editor's contributions (and the apparent socks) was one of WP:POV, WP:SPA, lack of WP:V and WP:OR. Ultimately, all of my interactions with the editor has been about ensuring those standards are met...indeed as are all my contribs to wikipedia. So unless Daeron (and anyone else here) have any specific objection/s to my editing on these standards (with diffs), then I suggest it's time to lay off.
So, as I've said since the resurfaced March WP:ANI after one full decade, I'm certain that the socking is ancient history and I'm not pursuing it. I would like to move on. Indeed, rather than this, I was looking forward to spending my last hour awake working on articles on old Sydney ferries (yes, I know how to rock a Satuday night). Others may also want to reflect on the most productive ways to use their time. -- Merbabu ( talk) 12:08, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Mexican Professional Baseball Hall of Fame inductees

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 ( talk) 12:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD)
The Mexican Professional Baseball Hall of Fame requires players to either be of Mexican heritage and active in the American major/minor leagues for 15 years or be active for that same amount of time in one of the Mexican leagues. The award is definitely not defining for those who played in the US. For the players of the domestic LMB and LMP leagues, many of the winners are redlinks and the articles are so short so it's hard to infer too much from them about the defingness of this award. For any reader interested in the topic, the winners are already listified in List of members of the Mexican Professional Baseball Hall of Fame, which could also serve as a to-do list in the article space. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:53, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 ( talk) 12:50, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD and WP:TOPTEN)
Dave Meltzer is a respected journalist that covers the wrestling industry in his Wrestling Observer Newsletter from a critical standpoint, rather than as a fan magazine. According to Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame article, "Meltzer began the Hall of Fame by choosing a list of 122 inaugural inductees in 1996" and added additional people from there. In the articles, the induction is typically mentioned in passing along with other halls of fame so it doesn't seem defining. The contents of the category are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:53, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Universities and colleges in Germany by city

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:49, 24 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only content is 3 categories. Berlin and Hamburg are duplicated in Category:Universities and colleges in Germany by state, as they are both cities and states. Universities and colleges in Munich are already in Category:Universities and colleges in Bavaria. There are not so many German universities that they need two levels of categorisation.
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary intermediate category. Rathfelder ( talk) 23:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Support, per nom. Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 23:17, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
However, rather than delete the category, it would be more helpful to create more by-city categories. For example, Frankfurt could support such a category. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Hesse has several important cities each with a few universities and colleges of which Frankfurt is just one, others are e.g. Wiesbaden and Darmstadt. It is better to keep them all in the state category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 10:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:History of Nyasaland

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History of Malawi. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: All of Nyasaland is history, as this is the name of the British protectorate in present-day Malawi between 1907 and 1963. There is little reason why 2 articles and 2 categories (for establishments and disestablishments) are singled out in a history subcategory, while e.g. ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.›  Category:Decades in Nyasaland is not. Place Clichy ( talk) 10:17, 25 May 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Would like to see some more discussion into which merge target is preferred, if a merge is indeed the best course of action.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac 1 5 22:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Television stations in Greensboro, North Carolina

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The result of the discussion was: rename. bibliomaniac 1 5 17:50, 11 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: More accurate market description Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 18:12, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Ultra-peaks

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 05:52, 23 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category contains just the (nearly) eponymous article and one article about a peak (i.e. most ultras have not been categorized in this way). Articles about mountains are already well categorized (not least by mountains-of-country categories).  The Ultra-prominent peak article should be moved to Category:Mountains, Category:Topography and Category:Tallest things.  If not deleted the category should be renamed to Category:Ultra-prominent peaks to match the article. DexDor (talk) 16:54, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Many of the articles (e.g. Denali) don't mention the ultra status, although they do state the prominence, so I think it's a case where lists (which exist) are appropriate, but a category less so. DexDor (talk) 05:22, 7 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Leaning delete While many of the articles don't mention the ultra status upon a quick look through the lists it looked like most did mention it making it quite plausible that it is defining. The test for being defining is not what we say however so I took three different ultra prominent peaks opened the first few google search result and checked if they mentinoned them being ultra prominent and only very few did making me think that reliable sources don't commonly and consistently define these peaks as ultra prominent. -- Trialpears ( talk) 22:23, 11 July 2020 (UTC) reply
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Speculative fiction awards by country

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 25#Speculative fiction awards by country

Sports trophies and awards by country

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 25#Sports trophies and awards by country

Category:Asylum buildings in the United Kingdom

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 22#Category:Asylum buildings in the United Kingdom

Category:Vice-chancellors of Indian Universities

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Heads of universities and colleges in India Timrollpickering ( talk) 11:05, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Or delete. Unnecessary intersection of topics? Fuddle ( talk) 15:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:London newspapers

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The result of the discussion was: Do not merge. There is a clear consensus that "Newspapers published in London intended for a Greater London readership" and "Newspapers published in London" should have two different categories. There is however no consensus regarding what the names of these two categories should be. (non-admin closure) -- Trialpears ( talk) 22:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Both have the same purpose. — Yours, Berrely •  Talk∕ Contribs 13:45, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Pottery industry

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This has been on the uncategorized categories list for a while. I'm struggling to find a place for it. I guess "pottery" will do, but does Pottery Barn actually make pottery? Fuddle ( talk) 12:14, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
No, they don't, just sell some. Other contents were correctly in Category:Ceramics manufacturers of the United States. Either redirect to the (of course) huge global Category:Ceramics manufacturers or delete. Johnbod ( talk) 12:23, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Btw, I assumed this was created by some idiot newbie, but amazingly it was the experienced User:Rjensen, just this April. Alarming! Johnbod ( talk) 12:28, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
yes that was a poor idea on my part. "Category:Pottery" is sufficient and we can drop "pottery industry". Rjensen ( talk) 20:52, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
They are in a considerable mess, mainly because American museums, academics and so editors like to call all pottery "ceramics". Your definition is not at all correct - the vast majority of "pottery" of the last many centuries "includes glazes and can contain other media" - any types of porcelain for example, never mind fritware, which has very little clay. Pottery is what might be potted by a potter - the term is mainly defined by method of manufacture. You may be thinking of earthenware, but much of that is glazed. The real problem is that glass is also "ceramics". In practice our categories mostly exclude glass from ceramics, or at least split it out. Some sources may distinguish between pottery and porcelain, but we try to avoid that; there is no question that porcelain is pottery as much as earthenware or stoneware. But anyway, this category is not useful. Johnbod ( talk) 13:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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(Dis)establishments of 18th-century British ministries by year

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The result of the discussion was: Delete all Timrollpickering ( talk) 11:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
more disestablishments
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, only one or occasionally two articles in a category. The articles are already in e.g. Category:1710 establishments in Great Britain and in Category:Ministries of Anne, Queen of Great Britain and the articles contain succession boxes, so the possibilities to navigate to related articles are sufficient anyway. Note that there is also one French article in this series (established 1792, disestablished 1794) but since it is the only article in those categories it still does not aid navigation in any way. Also note that we do not have 17th-century cabinets (dis)establishment categories, for exactly the same reason. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all Unnecessary Small categories, with no scope for expansion. The various ministries are adequately categorised. Furthermore the whole concept of a cabinet is an anachronism in the early 18th century. They did not meet as cabinets except in an antechamber where they waited to be called into the royal presence. I am not clear when cabinets began to meet as such, but it is not that early. Thus there are no Cabinet Minutes until WWI see [1]. Previously the meetings were less formal. Peterkingiron ( talk) 20:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. -- Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 01:54, 10 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Projectors (business)

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The result of the discussion was: merge the century categories into Category:English projectors, keep Category:Projectors (business). bibliomaniac 1 5 05:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge/delete per WP:SMALLCAT, three categories with one article each. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:23, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Oppose: For those with an interest in economic history it is clear that that term projector was in wide us in ENglish between the sixteenth and nineteenth centuries. It's meaning cannot be assimilated to that of Public–private partnership, a term which primarily arose in the nineteenth century.
As regards the limited membership of the categories Category:16th century English projector and Category:17th century English projectors this needs to be addressed by more work on the economic history of England to bring it up the sme sort of standards enjoyed by such important topics as Neighbours. Leutha ( talk) 10:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Oppose: We need the category for this particular class of business people, just as we have Category:British slave traders. I've already added William Petty to Category:17th century English projectors and there's going to be loads more! There's a wealth of material here. Leutha ( talk) 19:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
I would accept the merger of Category:16th century English projector and Category:17th century English projectors into Category:English projectors. Leutha ( talk) 11:54, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose or merge the centuries - do that by the individual articles. There are many bios that could be added. Johnbod ( talk) 13:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete and recateogorize the people to a "businesspeople" category. Possibly also listify (e.g. "Projectors included ..." on the eponymous article). The small number of articles doesn't warrant use of such an archaic term in wp categorization. DexDor (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Daeron

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The result of the discussion was: already deleted by Liz per WP:CSD#G6. bibliomaniac 1 5 05:33, 21 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:HSOCK ("Only blocked accounts should be tagged as Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets and only upon sufficient evidence that would stand up to scrutiny."): Some of the edits by the tagged IPs show disruption but no reason was ever given why this category should have been created. I cannot find an SPI report. Links to a little more discussion are here. Johnuniq ( talk) 04:01, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
This was recently a subject of an ANI report raised by Daeron. I created the category some 10 years ago and had forgotten about it. Being familiar with Daeron's contribs, his position on the articles he edits, and the contribs of the IP's I listed in the category, it is very clear to me that some of them are certainly the same person, and others suspiciously similar.
However, if the category's existence is not supported by Wikipedia policy then I won't object to its removal. I have a screen shot of the IP's and their contributions are still there for anyone to see. I don't have time for the detective work to prove a sock case, and it's not current behaviour...as far as I'm aware. -- Merbabu ( talk) 05:10, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I suggest delection per consensus between nominator and creator.
  • The category and pages have an appearance of hounding harassment as is consistent with the creator's editing action immediatedly after making the above comment, evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Dutch_East_Indies&oldid=961028919 where the allegation of "original research" is unsupported and apperance of personal insult. It should be noted that my edit is some six months old and some twelve editors including User:Merbabu himself edited the article during the past six months without objection to my edit, it was only after User:Merbabu responded to this request for deletion that he has located and reverted my edit while also adding an allegation of original research. Daeron ( talk) 09:18, 11 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Procedural oppose. I have no view on the substantive merits, but this is the wrong place to deal with this.
The category is populated because the user pages are tagged with the template {{ sockpuppet}}, as {{sockpuppet|Daeron}}.
The only way to remove the user pages from this category is by no longer tagging the pages as sockpuppets.
If the tags are removed, then the category will be empty, and this eligible for speedy deletion per WP:C1. OTOH is the tags stay, so does the category.
So the issue here is not whether the category should exist, but whether the IPs should be tagged. And that decision belongs at WP:SPI, not at CFD. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:10, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
No one has taken this issue to SPI. All that has happened is that, nearly ten years ago, an editor chose to tag various IPs and, from the above, has nothing more than suspicion based on undisclosed grounds. As mentioned above, WP:HSOCK indicates that there should be no tags so I will remove them to empty the category. Johnuniq ( talk) 03:32, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Johnuniq, I don't know enough either way about the nuances of SPI procedure to form a view on that, so I AGF that you're doing the right thing here. My concern is solely that this isn't a CFD issue. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 04:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Understood, although the part of WP:HSOCK I quoted in the nomination seems clear. I asked a question at the template talk after seeing a rather unhelpful ANI discussion in March 2020. Then I searched around for examples of previous similar categories. I didn't find much but got a feeling that they have been nominated here in the past. Johnuniq ( talk) 04:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
As the original category creator, I've largely avoided commenting apart from my noting I have no objection to deletion. But, responding to @ Johnuniq's comment I have "nothing more than suspicion based on undisclosed grounds" and "unsupported sock accusation with no evidence"...I have noted that it's in the contribs of both Daeron and the IPs. To elaborate, Daeron and the IPs are WP:SPA editors - all their edits are soley focussed on the West Papua question, and a particularly anti-Indonesian POV, striking similarity. Interesting timing too. It would extraordinarily uncanny if there was more than one editor. Too coincidental for my liking. Once again...to be clear...I'm not trying to pursue this old sock "suspicion", however, if pot shots at me are going to continue, then maybe i do have to respond.
As I said, I have noted no objection to this deletion. I also note that I have no interest in pursuing old history by devoting hours to chasing the contribs up and eating up other editor's time, but as i note above, this clear socking behaviour has long since stopped. Possibly because I did raise it with Daeron?
My concerns with the editor's contributions (and the apparent socks) was one of WP:POV, WP:SPA, lack of WP:V and WP:OR. Ultimately, all of my interactions with the editor has been about ensuring those standards are met...indeed as are all my contribs to wikipedia. So unless Daeron (and anyone else here) have any specific objection/s to my editing on these standards (with diffs), then I suggest it's time to lay off.
So, as I've said since the resurfaced March WP:ANI after one full decade, I'm certain that the socking is ancient history and I'm not pursuing it. I would like to move on. Indeed, rather than this, I was looking forward to spending my last hour awake working on articles on old Sydney ferries (yes, I know how to rock a Satuday night). Others may also want to reflect on the most productive ways to use their time. -- Merbabu ( talk) 12:08, 13 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Mexican Professional Baseball Hall of Fame inductees

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 ( talk) 12:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD)
The Mexican Professional Baseball Hall of Fame requires players to either be of Mexican heritage and active in the American major/minor leagues for 15 years or be active for that same amount of time in one of the Mexican leagues. The award is definitely not defining for those who played in the US. For the players of the domestic LMB and LMP leagues, many of the winners are redlinks and the articles are so short so it's hard to infer too much from them about the defingness of this award. For any reader interested in the topic, the winners are already listified in List of members of the Mexican Professional Baseball Hall of Fame, which could also serve as a to-do list in the article space. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:53, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 ( talk) 12:50, 14 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD and WP:TOPTEN)
Dave Meltzer is a respected journalist that covers the wrestling industry in his Wrestling Observer Newsletter from a critical standpoint, rather than as a fan magazine. According to Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame article, "Meltzer began the Hall of Fame by choosing a list of 122 inaugural inductees in 1996" and added additional people from there. In the articles, the induction is typically mentioned in passing along with other halls of fame so it doesn't seem defining. The contents of the category are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:53, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply
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