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Just FYI-If a category is empty, it can be tagged CSD C1 and be deleted after 7 days. You don't need to initiate a discussion for it at CfD. Now that the category is involved in a CfD, it cannot be tagged for speedy deletion. If you see an empty category in the future, please just tag it for speedy deletion rather than opening a Cfd discussion. LizRead!Talk!01:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)reply
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Liz: my apologies, you are absolutely correct... I was creating other CfDs in a rush before I had to go out, and the possibility of a speedy deletion completely slipped my mind.
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However, I don't recommend that the person who emptied the category be the one who also tags it as empty. I'm not saying that the articles shouldn't have been redirected. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me00:57, 24 March 2019 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Redundant – all songs by the artist have already been redirected to the artist's article as they are not notable.
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Nominator's rationale: Redundant – only contains one album, which is a soundtrack album, all the artist's other albums are not notable and have been redirected to the artist's article.
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Nominator's rationale: Redundant – contains just one song, which has already been redirected to the artist's article, as it is not notable.
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Nominator's rationale: Absent-mindedly, I nominated
Category:Album covers by label rather than this root category. The deletion result of the parent shows there’s no need for a “by label” categorization of album covers. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me14:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - The category contains album covers for label compilations (it did not at first). Without this, the image would be categorized with only "Album covers." -
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you are most welcome - it is a long tine since I have been visited by the cat police (10 years ago + ?) when if a cat was created with no likelihoood of getting to an optimal number of articles into the cat, there was trouble - these days cats get created with smaller numbers and the issue seems to be no longer an issue....
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Nominator's rationale:delete as redundant category layers. Coverage of religion in Brazil at local and state level is very limited (apart from places of worship which already has its own category tree).
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Category:Jewish fascists
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Nominator's rationale: Appears to be a case of overcategorization at the intersection of ethnicity (or religion) and political ideology. -
MrX 🖋
01:29, 22 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose There are categories of fascists across many other nationalities. This particular categorization also takes into account the unique instances of crossover between Zionism and fascism, such as the group Lehi, Abba Ahimeir and his Revisionist Maximalism movement, and Uri Zvi Greenberg (whose fascist politics are otherwise difficult to learn about in his own article).
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Support, apart from a few supporters of Mussolini (who were primarily Italian fascists rather than Jewish fascists) it is not clear whether people in this category really were fascists.
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Abba Ahimeir openly declared himself a fascist. The Lehi under Stern were fascists. Revisionist Maximalism was a fascist ideology. I don't see how that's "unclear".
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04:55, 24 March 2019 (UTC)reply
The Lehi's ideology (as it says in the article) was fascist until 1942, the year Stern died. Afterwards they shifted to National Bolshevism, a form of neo-fascism.
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13:58, 24 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep -- There is a strong link between political and religious beliefs: one tends to drive the other. In this case, the existence of the category might be unexpected in view of what the Nazis did to the Jews.
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19:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete "Jewish" is not a nationality, so Docktuh's comments are irrelevant, as for Peterkingiron's opposition suffice to say that "Jewish" as used at WP is not a religious category (see
Category:Jewish atheists) so that comment is irrelevant too. We don't have fascists by ethnicity (as opposed to nationality). And although we have
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Nominator's rationale: Appears to be a case of overcategorization at the intersection of ethnicity (or religion) and political ideology. -
MrX 🖋
01:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Support, the large amount of the articles in this category concerns American anti-communists, with unclear ties between anti-communism and Jewish ethnicity.
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Just FYI-If a category is empty, it can be tagged CSD C1 and be deleted after 7 days. You don't need to initiate a discussion for it at CfD. Now that the category is involved in a CfD, it cannot be tagged for speedy deletion. If you see an empty category in the future, please just tag it for speedy deletion rather than opening a Cfd discussion. LizRead!Talk!01:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)reply
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However, I don't recommend that the person who emptied the category be the one who also tags it as empty. I'm not saying that the articles shouldn't have been redirected. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me00:57, 24 March 2019 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Redundant – all songs by the artist have already been redirected to the artist's article as they are not notable.
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Nominator's rationale: Redundant – only contains one album, which is a soundtrack album, all the artist's other albums are not notable and have been redirected to the artist's article.
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Comment - The category contains album covers for label compilations (it did not at first). Without this, the image would be categorized with only "Album covers." -
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you are most welcome - it is a long tine since I have been visited by the cat police (10 years ago + ?) when if a cat was created with no likelihoood of getting to an optimal number of articles into the cat, there was trouble - these days cats get created with smaller numbers and the issue seems to be no longer an issue....
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Nominator's rationale:delete as redundant category layers. Coverage of religion in Brazil at local and state level is very limited (apart from places of worship which already has its own category tree).
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Nominator's rationale: Appears to be a case of overcategorization at the intersection of ethnicity (or religion) and political ideology. -
MrX 🖋
01:29, 22 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose There are categories of fascists across many other nationalities. This particular categorization also takes into account the unique instances of crossover between Zionism and fascism, such as the group Lehi, Abba Ahimeir and his Revisionist Maximalism movement, and Uri Zvi Greenberg (whose fascist politics are otherwise difficult to learn about in his own article).
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02:24, 23 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Support, apart from a few supporters of Mussolini (who were primarily Italian fascists rather than Jewish fascists) it is not clear whether people in this category really were fascists.
Marcocapelle (
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09:10, 23 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Abba Ahimeir openly declared himself a fascist. The Lehi under Stern were fascists. Revisionist Maximalism was a fascist ideology. I don't see how that's "unclear".
Docktuh (
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04:55, 24 March 2019 (UTC)reply
The Lehi's ideology (as it says in the article) was fascist until 1942, the year Stern died. Afterwards they shifted to National Bolshevism, a form of neo-fascism.
Docktuh (
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13:58, 24 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep -- There is a strong link between political and religious beliefs: one tends to drive the other. In this case, the existence of the category might be unexpected in view of what the Nazis did to the Jews.
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19:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete "Jewish" is not a nationality, so Docktuh's comments are irrelevant, as for Peterkingiron's opposition suffice to say that "Jewish" as used at WP is not a religious category (see
Category:Jewish atheists) so that comment is irrelevant too. We don't have fascists by ethnicity (as opposed to nationality). And although we have
Category:Christian fascists, it contains people who believe rather than merely have some portion of Christian ancestry.
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Nominator's rationale: Appears to be a case of overcategorization at the intersection of ethnicity (or religion) and political ideology. -
MrX 🖋
01:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Support, the large amount of the articles in this category concerns American anti-communists, with unclear ties between anti-communism and Jewish ethnicity.
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