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Comment Why is this is the mass-murder category tree?
Purges involve removal of "undesirable" people for political or religious reasons. The targeted people may be imprisoned or exiled, without being killed. The purges in the
Soviet Union for example, typically involved sending the "undesirables" to the
Gulag (forced labor camp system). Purges are another form for
political repression.
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Category:Songs written by Jedward
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Nominator's rationale: We do not do songwriters by band name - which is the marketing term used to sell records. Members of a band can change, but the songwriting credits do not. Here is a sample previous discussion which also refers to other
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16:04, 11 September 2018 (UTC)reply
As you've successfully argued in CfD before @
Richhoncho:, the writer(s) of a song is a defining characteristic even if the writer does not have an article. Is this a SMALLCAT argument then? Johnbod's suggestion below seems reasonable: use both names and split if they write notable songs independently. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me19:14, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep/rename If you want to delete as "small & unlikely to expand", say so, but that is a weak argument. They have a double biography as
Jedward, and deserve a songwriter category, either as a pair or using both names. It could be renamed if they split up. Specious nom.
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@
Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: I would argue small cat if either a) there were a number of songs to be joined together, or, b) the songwriters had their own articles. If separated where would a searcher go, other than to the category? And no @
Johnbod: it is not a specious argument. --
Richhoncho (
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20:03, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
You're talking about the exception to small categories, but
WP:SMALLCAT says to "avoid categories that, by their very definition, will never have more than a few members", which seems to be your argument here. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me22:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Not at all. My nomination is clear, the band name 'Jedward' is a marketing name, no more, no less (Example: Without mentioning marketing names who had no part in the creation of a song, how many of The Beatles were on the Beatle song, 'She's Leaving Home?'). If you think the two individual songwriters should be split into to categories, then do it, I will not be objecting, but I am still failing to find any WP advantage in any such action. --
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23:20, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep Jedward is the combination name used by the two brothers working together in music and and TV. A similar example might be
Category:Songs_written_by_Lennon–McCartney which exists for the works those men wrote together and the have separate categories for the works they wrote as individuals.
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Category:Romani people and Romanipen in Romania
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Merge (creator !vote) Note that back when this was created, 11 years ago, it looked like the category nomenclature was going to follow this pattern; someone decided against it, and created a secondary category, which has a more suitable name. S/he should've merged both back then.
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Support. As a matter of fact, why is a discussion even needed? You could have just been
bold, created the new San Francisco Bowl category yourself, and moved all the pages there.
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Category:A.S.D. Nuova Cassino 1924 players
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Nominator's rationale:merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, the category only contains the eponymous article, a redirect and a subcategory. A full upmerge to all parents is not needed, the content is already in appropriate other Crusader categories.
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Category:People from Bethania, North Carolina
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Merge per nom The town is 3-centuries old, but never grew into a major settlement. It has a smaller population that several villages. It is unlikely we can populate this category with many articles.
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Comment Why is this is the mass-murder category tree?
Purges involve removal of "undesirable" people for political or religious reasons. The targeted people may be imprisoned or exiled, without being killed. The purges in the
Soviet Union for example, typically involved sending the "undesirables" to the
Gulag (forced labor camp system). Purges are another form for
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15:27, 17 September 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Songs written by Jedward
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Nominator's rationale: We do not do songwriters by band name - which is the marketing term used to sell records. Members of a band can change, but the songwriting credits do not. Here is a sample previous discussion which also refers to other
Discussions.
Richhoncho (
talk)
16:04, 11 September 2018 (UTC)reply
As you've successfully argued in CfD before @
Richhoncho:, the writer(s) of a song is a defining characteristic even if the writer does not have an article. Is this a SMALLCAT argument then? Johnbod's suggestion below seems reasonable: use both names and split if they write notable songs independently. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me19:14, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep/rename If you want to delete as "small & unlikely to expand", say so, but that is a weak argument. They have a double biography as
Jedward, and deserve a songwriter category, either as a pair or using both names. It could be renamed if they split up. Specious nom.
Johnbod (
talk)
13:31, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
@
Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: I would argue small cat if either a) there were a number of songs to be joined together, or, b) the songwriters had their own articles. If separated where would a searcher go, other than to the category? And no @
Johnbod: it is not a specious argument. --
Richhoncho (
talk)
20:03, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
You're talking about the exception to small categories, but
WP:SMALLCAT says to "avoid categories that, by their very definition, will never have more than a few members", which seems to be your argument here. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me22:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Not at all. My nomination is clear, the band name 'Jedward' is a marketing name, no more, no less (Example: Without mentioning marketing names who had no part in the creation of a song, how many of The Beatles were on the Beatle song, 'She's Leaving Home?'). If you think the two individual songwriters should be split into to categories, then do it, I will not be objecting, but I am still failing to find any WP advantage in any such action. --
Richhoncho (
talk)
23:20, 13 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep Jedward is the combination name used by the two brothers working together in music and and TV. A similar example might be
Category:Songs_written_by_Lennon–McCartney which exists for the works those men wrote together and the have separate categories for the works they wrote as individuals.
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Merge (creator !vote) Note that back when this was created, 11 years ago, it looked like the category nomenclature was going to follow this pattern; someone decided against it, and created a secondary category, which has a more suitable name. S/he should've merged both back then.
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Support. As a matter of fact, why is a discussion even needed? You could have just been
bold, created the new San Francisco Bowl category yourself, and moved all the pages there.
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Merge per nom The town is 3-centuries old, but never grew into a major settlement. It has a smaller population that several villages. It is unlikely we can populate this category with many articles.
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