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May 26

Category:Athletic history of Thessalonica

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 08:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, there aren't any specific history articles in this category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:09, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • The parent category will naturally become empty when both the merger of this nomination and the merger at the bottom of the page get consensus. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:30, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Steam Greenlight games

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering 21:08, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Generally unverifiable therefore original research. Also, not all games that are on Steam went through Steam Greenlight so this category doesn't contain all Steam games either. wumbolo ^^^ 08:11, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Thirdparty coverage of these games will generally note having gone through the Greenlight process (a process which no longer is active but had been used to allow user-voted games to be deemed appropriate to include on Steam, so there was recognizition needed for these games). The second aspect doesn't make sense. It's not meant to contain all Steam games (which would be too large and inappropriate), only the subset that actually got onto Steam as cleared by Greenlight. -- Masem ( t) 12:31, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NONDEF, while checking the articles in this category it seems like this is an only minor characteristic of these games. No objection against listification. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:37, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. This is clearly verifiable ("not verified for a particular game" = a sourcing problem at that particular article). Steam (software)#Steam Greenlight is an entire section and potentially could be a split-off article. This might or might not be defining, but subcats do not have to be defining, and are a sometimes arbitrary, just to split up a large category.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  19:05, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as non-defining; per Marcocapelle. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - It's not too hard to verify the subject as being either on greenlight, or not. Nothing particularly wrong with having a category for games that went through Greenlight. Lee Vilenski ( talkcontribs) 09:14, 30 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - sources generally mention if a game went through the Greenlight process, making it a characteristic of the game, so I disagree with the OP. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 10:22, 3 June 2018 (UTC) reply
    @ Dissident93: I looked at several games in the category, and couln't find any mention of Greenlight in them. wumbolo ^^^ 04:05, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply
    That's more of an issue with the articles lacking information. If you searched for sources about them, I'm fairly confident the majority would mention the fact they were on Greenlight. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 04:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply
    I meant to say the sources. I didn't find any Greenlight information in sources. wumbolo ^^^ 12:21, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - per discussion above. Aleccat 03:50, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, I think nobody involved in this discussion denied it is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:40, 24 June 2018 (UTC) reply

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Category:Alternative fighting games

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:06, 3 June 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This seems to be a concept invented by the article creator. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 07:55, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Support Not a clear characteristic. SFB 15:36, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Smash Bros and the games listed in the cat are not traditional like Tekken or Street Fighter, there should be a division. Jamesdenn ( talk) 16:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    I.e., "seems to be a concept invented" by you, and "not a clear characteristic".  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  19:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per the above.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  19:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete unclear thus SUBJ or OR; moreover, we tend not to categorize things as what they are not; here defined as "Fighting games that do not follow Street Fighter II semantics." Thus if we could be clear, probably not defining. Maybe we need categories like games that have protagonists not named Mario or Luigi? Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:16, 29 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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History of Macedonia (Greece)

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/rename. Timrollpickering 08:14, 9 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge/rename anachronistic categories. Macedonia (Greece) only exists since 1913. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

May 26

Category:Athletic history of Thessalonica

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 08:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, there aren't any specific history articles in this category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:09, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • The parent category will naturally become empty when both the merger of this nomination and the merger at the bottom of the page get consensus. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:30, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Steam Greenlight games

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering 21:08, 19 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Generally unverifiable therefore original research. Also, not all games that are on Steam went through Steam Greenlight so this category doesn't contain all Steam games either. wumbolo ^^^ 08:11, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Thirdparty coverage of these games will generally note having gone through the Greenlight process (a process which no longer is active but had been used to allow user-voted games to be deemed appropriate to include on Steam, so there was recognizition needed for these games). The second aspect doesn't make sense. It's not meant to contain all Steam games (which would be too large and inappropriate), only the subset that actually got onto Steam as cleared by Greenlight. -- Masem ( t) 12:31, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NONDEF, while checking the articles in this category it seems like this is an only minor characteristic of these games. No objection against listification. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:37, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. This is clearly verifiable ("not verified for a particular game" = a sourcing problem at that particular article). Steam (software)#Steam Greenlight is an entire section and potentially could be a split-off article. This might or might not be defining, but subcats do not have to be defining, and are a sometimes arbitrary, just to split up a large category.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  19:05, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as non-defining; per Marcocapelle. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:13, 29 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - It's not too hard to verify the subject as being either on greenlight, or not. Nothing particularly wrong with having a category for games that went through Greenlight. Lee Vilenski ( talkcontribs) 09:14, 30 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - sources generally mention if a game went through the Greenlight process, making it a characteristic of the game, so I disagree with the OP. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 10:22, 3 June 2018 (UTC) reply
    @ Dissident93: I looked at several games in the category, and couln't find any mention of Greenlight in them. wumbolo ^^^ 04:05, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply
    That's more of an issue with the articles lacking information. If you searched for sources about them, I'm fairly confident the majority would mention the fact they were on Greenlight. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 04:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply
    I meant to say the sources. I didn't find any Greenlight information in sources. wumbolo ^^^ 12:21, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - per discussion above. Aleccat 03:50, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, I think nobody involved in this discussion denied it is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:40, 24 June 2018 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Alternative fighting games

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:06, 3 June 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This seems to be a concept invented by the article creator. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 07:55, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Support Not a clear characteristic. SFB 15:36, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose Smash Bros and the games listed in the cat are not traditional like Tekken or Street Fighter, there should be a division. Jamesdenn ( talk) 16:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
    I.e., "seems to be a concept invented" by you, and "not a clear characteristic".  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  19:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per the above.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  19:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete unclear thus SUBJ or OR; moreover, we tend not to categorize things as what they are not; here defined as "Fighting games that do not follow Street Fighter II semantics." Thus if we could be clear, probably not defining. Maybe we need categories like games that have protagonists not named Mario or Luigi? Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 18:16, 29 May 2018 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

History of Macedonia (Greece)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge/rename. Timrollpickering 08:14, 9 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge/rename anachronistic categories. Macedonia (Greece) only exists since 1913. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

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