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June 28

Category:Montgomeryshire Architecture

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Move to Category:Buildings and structures in Montgomeryshire. I've intentionally ignored the Montgomeryshire-Powys issue, because I'm just about to create a separate CFD to consider that issue. I'll notify all participants here. 04:36, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Relist following a no-consensus closure, due to a split on the question of whether we required a category for the former county as a separate subcategory of the current one. But in its existing form the category is incorrectly named: Montgomeryshire is not a style of architecture, but just a geographic place that has architecture in it, so it has to follow the standard naming convention of "Buildings and structures in Someplace". So I have no strong opinion on whether the someplace should be Montgomeryshire or Powys, but it absolutely, unconditionally must be "Buildings and structures in [either Montgomeryshire or Powys]", and cannot be named "Someplace Architecture" regardless of which someplace we pick. Bearcat ( talk) 19:46, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply
For the record, my view at this point is that if a consensus cannot be clearly established to merge it to Powys, then it should be renamed to "Buildings and structures in Montgomeryshire", on the grounds that although there's no consensus to get rid of it outright the existing name remains problematic. Consensus for a merger, I realize, may not exist — but even if kept, it still has to be renamed for conformity with the proper naming convention for categories of this type. So if there's no consensus to upmerge it into Powys, then the close must be on a rename. Bearcat ( talk) 14:35, 3 July 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Surely this matter has just been discussed in considerable detail and no consensus could be reached. However in that discussion no objection was raised to the title being renamed to Category:Buildings and structures in Montgomeryshire, so it seems reasonable to stick with that. Tyssil ( talk) 21:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply
Certainly there was no reachable consensus on whether the buildings and structures should be filed as in Montgomeryshire or in Powys. But the existing name remains unacceptable regardless of the Montgomery/Powys question, because the overriding issue — the one that must be fixed with no ifs, ands or buts about it — is the "architecture" vs. "buildings and structures" issue. Bearcat ( talk) 21:34, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Category:Film adaptations directed by writers of original works

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The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:11, 6 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCATswpb T 17:58, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Category:Districts in Scotland

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Areas in Scotland. – Fayenatic London 09:04, 27 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The category contains neighbourhoods and suburbs, but the current name is too easily confused with Category:Districts of Scotland, which is for local government areas. Renaming would also be consistent with Category:Neighbourhoods in England and Category:Neighbourhoods in Wales. Jellyman ( talk) 16:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Category:Strigiformes

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Strigiformes to Category:Owls, leaving a redirect. ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:54, 13 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Strigiformes is simply the scientific name for owls. Prefer merging Category:Strigiformes per WP:COMMONNAME. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Category:LGBT Pentecostals

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. ( non-admin closure) 142.160.131.202 ( talk) 19:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not all of the individuals are Pentecostal. I would suggest merging the contents up to LGBT Protestants or moving it to Category:LGBT Charismatics as it more accurately reflects the members. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 05:41, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Serie C clubs

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The result of the discussion was: rename/merge. – Fayenatic London 21:13, 5 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Lega Pro/Serie C refer to the league, which was renamed back to Serie C in May 2017 (according to citation provided by other user). While, Serie C1/Lega Pro Prima Divisione and Serie C2/Lega Pro Seconda Divisione refer to the division of the league. As matching with Category:Lega Pro players discussion (in 2015), no need to have three cat for the two divisions and post/pre divided state. Matthew_hk t c 03:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply
Also compare to the cat tree of English football Category:English Football League clubs Matthew_hk t c 03:44, 28 June 2017 (UTC) Matthew_hk t c 12:16, 3 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Matthew_hk t c 04:59, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Medieval crimes

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The result of the discussion was: rename to "crime". – Fayenatic London 19:26, 4 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: apart from four exceptions (listed below), the articles of these categories merely contain biographies rather than articles about crimes and that's not really the way crimes categories should be populated. The biographies are already in Category:Medieval criminals and Category:Medieval murder victims so nothing is lost by deleting the nominated categories. The four exceptions that are really about a crime and that thus should be moved to Category:Medieval crimes, are:
Siege of Uthman‎
Assassination of John the Fearless
Assassination of Louis I, Duke of Orléans
Pazzi conspiracy
This nomination is entirely similar to this earlier one about ancient crimes. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:08, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Category:Macroeconomics and monetary economics

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 22:42, 26 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OVERLAPCAT, Category:Monetary economics is a subcategory of Category:Macroeconomics, which implies that the scope of the nominated category is entirely equal to the scope of Category:Macroeconomics. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:04, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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June 28

Category:Montgomeryshire Architecture

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Move to Category:Buildings and structures in Montgomeryshire. I've intentionally ignored the Montgomeryshire-Powys issue, because I'm just about to create a separate CFD to consider that issue. I'll notify all participants here. 04:36, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Relist following a no-consensus closure, due to a split on the question of whether we required a category for the former county as a separate subcategory of the current one. But in its existing form the category is incorrectly named: Montgomeryshire is not a style of architecture, but just a geographic place that has architecture in it, so it has to follow the standard naming convention of "Buildings and structures in Someplace". So I have no strong opinion on whether the someplace should be Montgomeryshire or Powys, but it absolutely, unconditionally must be "Buildings and structures in [either Montgomeryshire or Powys]", and cannot be named "Someplace Architecture" regardless of which someplace we pick. Bearcat ( talk) 19:46, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply
For the record, my view at this point is that if a consensus cannot be clearly established to merge it to Powys, then it should be renamed to "Buildings and structures in Montgomeryshire", on the grounds that although there's no consensus to get rid of it outright the existing name remains problematic. Consensus for a merger, I realize, may not exist — but even if kept, it still has to be renamed for conformity with the proper naming convention for categories of this type. So if there's no consensus to upmerge it into Powys, then the close must be on a rename. Bearcat ( talk) 14:35, 3 July 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Surely this matter has just been discussed in considerable detail and no consensus could be reached. However in that discussion no objection was raised to the title being renamed to Category:Buildings and structures in Montgomeryshire, so it seems reasonable to stick with that. Tyssil ( talk) 21:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply
Certainly there was no reachable consensus on whether the buildings and structures should be filed as in Montgomeryshire or in Powys. But the existing name remains unacceptable regardless of the Montgomery/Powys question, because the overriding issue — the one that must be fixed with no ifs, ands or buts about it — is the "architecture" vs. "buildings and structures" issue. Bearcat ( talk) 21:34, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Category:Film adaptations directed by writers of original works

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete ( non-admin closure). Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:11, 6 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCATswpb T 17:58, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Category:Districts in Scotland

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Areas in Scotland. – Fayenatic London 09:04, 27 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The category contains neighbourhoods and suburbs, but the current name is too easily confused with Category:Districts of Scotland, which is for local government areas. Renaming would also be consistent with Category:Neighbourhoods in England and Category:Neighbourhoods in Wales. Jellyman ( talk) 16:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Strigiformes

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Strigiformes to Category:Owls, leaving a redirect. ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 04:54, 13 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Strigiformes is simply the scientific name for owls. Prefer merging Category:Strigiformes per WP:COMMONNAME. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Category:LGBT Pentecostals

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. ( non-admin closure) 142.160.131.202 ( talk) 19:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not all of the individuals are Pentecostal. I would suggest merging the contents up to LGBT Protestants or moving it to Category:LGBT Charismatics as it more accurately reflects the members. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 05:41, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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Serie C clubs

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename/merge. – Fayenatic London 21:13, 5 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Lega Pro/Serie C refer to the league, which was renamed back to Serie C in May 2017 (according to citation provided by other user). While, Serie C1/Lega Pro Prima Divisione and Serie C2/Lega Pro Seconda Divisione refer to the division of the league. As matching with Category:Lega Pro players discussion (in 2015), no need to have three cat for the two divisions and post/pre divided state. Matthew_hk t c 03:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply
Also compare to the cat tree of English football Category:English Football League clubs Matthew_hk t c 03:44, 28 June 2017 (UTC) Matthew_hk t c 12:16, 3 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Matthew_hk t c 04:59, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Medieval crimes

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to "crime". – Fayenatic London 19:26, 4 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: apart from four exceptions (listed below), the articles of these categories merely contain biographies rather than articles about crimes and that's not really the way crimes categories should be populated. The biographies are already in Category:Medieval criminals and Category:Medieval murder victims so nothing is lost by deleting the nominated categories. The four exceptions that are really about a crime and that thus should be moved to Category:Medieval crimes, are:
Siege of Uthman‎
Assassination of John the Fearless
Assassination of Louis I, Duke of Orléans
Pazzi conspiracy
This nomination is entirely similar to this earlier one about ancient crimes. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:08, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Macroeconomics and monetary economics

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 22:42, 26 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OVERLAPCAT, Category:Monetary economics is a subcategory of Category:Macroeconomics, which implies that the scope of the nominated category is entirely equal to the scope of Category:Macroeconomics. Marcocapelle ( talk) 02:04, 28 June 2017 (UTC) reply

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