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The result of the discussion was:rename. Though not mandated by consensus of this discussion, I'd agree with Peter's recommendation to change these categories to talk-page categories.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 02:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename I'm nominating these categories for renaming for two reasons: first, the word "date" should be changed to "year" since we actually don't have an exact date of release for many anime and manga series (though manga is more likely not to have an exact one), and these categories are not intended to cover these cases, but only those in which not even the year of release is known. Second, the word "unknown" should be changed to "missing", per the lead of the (current) parent category
Category:Year of work unknown: "This category is for articles about works where the articles do not have a year of establishment because the year is not known and is never likely to be known (eg. historical works)." It is highly unlikely that any anime or manga series would resist all attempts to discover at least a year of release, since the media forms of manga and anime probably haven't been around for long enough for such information to have been completely lost or obscured beyond recovery. —
Dinoguy1000 22:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Support - nom's arguments convince me. —
Quasirandom (
talk) 14:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Support But if kept this should be a technical category to be placed on the talk page, since it is not categorising content but identifying defects in the article.
Peterkingiron (
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Category:Multiracial actors
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The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 22:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete Category:Multiracial musicians and Category:Multiracial people were deleted for
verifiability issues and
Overcategorization; this category is no different; also fails
NONCATGRSDiverseMentality 21:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete per previous consensus to not use this means of classification. We need to weed out all of these "multiracial" categories.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 05:50, 28 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete People should be categorised according to their specific descent, and preferably only where that is a defining characteristic, not merely as "multiracial".
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Category:Casio digital watch detainees
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Delete - This category is the very embodiment of
WP:OCAT: extremely narrow in definition and very little prospect of growth. It's really a gem of its sort; in fact, you could say it's named with the precision of a Casio watch. (No need to upmerge as the sole article is already well-categorized.) Notified creator with {{
subst:cfd-notify}}Cgingold (
talk) 21:09, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete - Per Nom.
Dman727 (
talk) 21:55, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Comment – there are quite a few more yet to be captured by this fascinating category - see
Casio F91W (an example of which is on my wrist).
Occuli (
talk) 02:13, 27 December 2008 (UTC)reply
I suspect your little secret is probably safe from the prying eyes of Big Brother here in the sub-basement of Wikipedia. But to be safe, maybe we should scrub it just to be sure you don't get nabbed and vanish into thin air on New Year's Eve.
Cgingold (
talk) 06:58, 27 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Too late .... no time to fini ...
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Category:Philadelphia Athletics seasons
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The result of the discussion was:rename (no opposition).
Good Ol’factory(talk) 02:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Match other similar categories for the team's
managers and
players. Also avoid confusion with other Philadelphia Athletics teams, most notably the team now known as the
Oakland Athletics.
Dewelar (
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Category:Deaths by IDF
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The result of the discussion was:rename. While there is consensus to rename, there is no consensus on what to rename to, even after relisting. As such, I'm going to take Vegas's suggestion and just rename to
Category:Deaths by the Israel Defense Forces in order to expand the acronym. If it's desired to hash out whether this should contain civilian or military, all people or just non-Palestinians, either renominate this for further renaming or use a hatnote.
Kbdank71 15:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete? I'm not sure if we categorize people by the military group that killed them, but any input on this topic is welcome. (If kept, obviously needs to be renamed, maybe to
Category:People killed by the Israel Defense Forces.)
Good Ol’factory(talk) 23:43, 15 December 2008 (UTC)reply
I would have thought it would make more sense to limit it to civilians killed by the IDF, since I can't imagine that the category would be defining for a military death in a war against Israel (see Alansohn's points below). But as Johnbod points out, civilian/military distinctions can be less than a brightline.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 04:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete, unless an appropriate name can be reached by consensus As named, the category would include all military deaths in all wars fought by Israel since 1948, above and beyond other polemic issues raised by the category. This should be created on a broader basis to cover categories of similar deaths by all parties, if it should exist at all.
Alansohn (
talk) 02:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Rename but keep. This is clearly the most defining category for all these individuals, only one of whom would otherwise be notable. It therefore should be kept by
WP:CAT. It seems very undercategorized. It could be expanded to cover all deaths, but I don't see this as necessary - the civilian/military distinction is not too clearcut here. See
Category:People murdered in the Palestinian territories for a range of the other categories in this area.
Johnbod (
talk) 02:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)reply
keep All of the people presently listed are civilians, and are not Palestinians or Israelis. The name or definition could be modified to reflect this.
Pustelnik (
talk) 00:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Fixed relist template. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Otto4711 (
talk) 15:42, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Lots of deaths by IDF closed with untransparent investigations. But somehow a better name might be needed because this list only contains western people.
Kasaalan (
talk) 22:41, 1 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Rename to non-Palestinian victims of the IDF- notable non-Palestinian victims civilian or not should be included since they're not exactly targets of the IDF.--
23prootie (
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Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators
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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. All nuclear power station owners and operators are at the same time nuclear power companies and I can't imagine any nuclear power company, which is not owner or operator of the nuclear power station. Of course, there could be some theoretical cases, however, I don't see there could be any case in practice, which can't be solved without the
Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators. Also, this category is not necessary for systematic categorization purposes.
Beagel (
talk) 08:09, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Comment - I've added the sub-category in order to complete the job at one go, whatever the decision. I'm leaning toward supporting this proposal, but I'd like to hear from other editors first, including the creator. Notified creator with {{
subst:cfd-notify}}Cgingold (
talk) 13:02, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Comment. Unfortunately the creator of this category is blocked indefinitely.
Beagel (
talk) 13:28, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Ah, I didn't see that; having looked over his talk page, it's not entirely surprising. I guess I'll have to take up some of the slack myself and do a bit of "devil's advocacy".
Cgingold (
talk) 13:59, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Dexter's Laboratory characters
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Delete. I agree with TenPoundHammer, this category has no chance of growing.
DiverseMentality 21:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Civil Air Patrol Wing Commanders
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Nominator's rationale: Delete Very few people who hold or have held this position are
notablerogerd (
talk) 06:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete. One person in the category, and it's a user. Definitely doesn't justify its existence.
DiverseMentality 21:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete. I'm working to clean up several recently created categories so they can be deleted. —
Huntster (
t •
@ •
c) 11:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)reply
If there were contents, I'd say Listify, but it's empty, so isn't it speediable?
76.66.195.190 (
talk) 05:30, 28 December 2008 (UTC)reply
It wasn't when it was listed, and according to
criteria for speedy deletion, it must be empty for four days, which it hasn't yet. --
rogerd (
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Category:Association football commentators
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Nominator's rationale: the established wikipedia disambiguate is 'football (soccer)'
Mayumashu (
talk) 04:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom & recent CFD discussion on super-category.
Cgingold (
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The result of the discussion was:rename. Though not mandated by consensus of this discussion, I'd agree with Peter's recommendation to change these categories to talk-page categories.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 02:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Rename I'm nominating these categories for renaming for two reasons: first, the word "date" should be changed to "year" since we actually don't have an exact date of release for many anime and manga series (though manga is more likely not to have an exact one), and these categories are not intended to cover these cases, but only those in which not even the year of release is known. Second, the word "unknown" should be changed to "missing", per the lead of the (current) parent category
Category:Year of work unknown: "This category is for articles about works where the articles do not have a year of establishment because the year is not known and is never likely to be known (eg. historical works)." It is highly unlikely that any anime or manga series would resist all attempts to discover at least a year of release, since the media forms of manga and anime probably haven't been around for long enough for such information to have been completely lost or obscured beyond recovery. —
Dinoguy1000 22:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Support - nom's arguments convince me. —
Quasirandom (
talk) 14:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Support But if kept this should be a technical category to be placed on the talk page, since it is not categorising content but identifying defects in the article.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 19:35, 29 December 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Multiracial actors
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The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 22:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete Category:Multiracial musicians and Category:Multiracial people were deleted for
verifiability issues and
Overcategorization; this category is no different; also fails
NONCATGRSDiverseMentality 21:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete per previous consensus to not use this means of classification. We need to weed out all of these "multiracial" categories.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 05:50, 28 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete People should be categorised according to their specific descent, and preferably only where that is a defining characteristic, not merely as "multiracial".
Peterkingiron (
talk) 19:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Casio digital watch detainees
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Delete - This category is the very embodiment of
WP:OCAT: extremely narrow in definition and very little prospect of growth. It's really a gem of its sort; in fact, you could say it's named with the precision of a Casio watch. (No need to upmerge as the sole article is already well-categorized.) Notified creator with {{
subst:cfd-notify}}Cgingold (
talk) 21:09, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete - Per Nom.
Dman727 (
talk) 21:55, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Comment – there are quite a few more yet to be captured by this fascinating category - see
Casio F91W (an example of which is on my wrist).
Occuli (
talk) 02:13, 27 December 2008 (UTC)reply
I suspect your little secret is probably safe from the prying eyes of Big Brother here in the sub-basement of Wikipedia. But to be safe, maybe we should scrub it just to be sure you don't get nabbed and vanish into thin air on New Year's Eve.
Cgingold (
talk) 06:58, 27 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Too late .... no time to fini ...
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Category:Philadelphia Athletics seasons
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The result of the discussion was:rename (no opposition).
Good Ol’factory(talk) 02:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Match other similar categories for the team's
managers and
players. Also avoid confusion with other Philadelphia Athletics teams, most notably the team now known as the
Oakland Athletics.
Dewelar (
talk) 19:57, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Deaths by IDF
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The result of the discussion was:rename. While there is consensus to rename, there is no consensus on what to rename to, even after relisting. As such, I'm going to take Vegas's suggestion and just rename to
Category:Deaths by the Israel Defense Forces in order to expand the acronym. If it's desired to hash out whether this should contain civilian or military, all people or just non-Palestinians, either renominate this for further renaming or use a hatnote.
Kbdank71 15:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete? I'm not sure if we categorize people by the military group that killed them, but any input on this topic is welcome. (If kept, obviously needs to be renamed, maybe to
Category:People killed by the Israel Defense Forces.)
Good Ol’factory(talk) 23:43, 15 December 2008 (UTC)reply
I would have thought it would make more sense to limit it to civilians killed by the IDF, since I can't imagine that the category would be defining for a military death in a war against Israel (see Alansohn's points below). But as Johnbod points out, civilian/military distinctions can be less than a brightline.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 04:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete, unless an appropriate name can be reached by consensus As named, the category would include all military deaths in all wars fought by Israel since 1948, above and beyond other polemic issues raised by the category. This should be created on a broader basis to cover categories of similar deaths by all parties, if it should exist at all.
Alansohn (
talk) 02:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Rename but keep. This is clearly the most defining category for all these individuals, only one of whom would otherwise be notable. It therefore should be kept by
WP:CAT. It seems very undercategorized. It could be expanded to cover all deaths, but I don't see this as necessary - the civilian/military distinction is not too clearcut here. See
Category:People murdered in the Palestinian territories for a range of the other categories in this area.
Johnbod (
talk) 02:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)reply
keep All of the people presently listed are civilians, and are not Palestinians or Israelis. The name or definition could be modified to reflect this.
Pustelnik (
talk) 00:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Fixed relist template. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Otto4711 (
talk) 15:42, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Lots of deaths by IDF closed with untransparent investigations. But somehow a better name might be needed because this list only contains western people.
Kasaalan (
talk) 22:41, 1 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Rename to non-Palestinian victims of the IDF- notable non-Palestinian victims civilian or not should be included since they're not exactly targets of the IDF.--
23prootie (
talk) 08:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators
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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. All nuclear power station owners and operators are at the same time nuclear power companies and I can't imagine any nuclear power company, which is not owner or operator of the nuclear power station. Of course, there could be some theoretical cases, however, I don't see there could be any case in practice, which can't be solved without the
Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators. Also, this category is not necessary for systematic categorization purposes.
Beagel (
talk) 08:09, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Comment - I've added the sub-category in order to complete the job at one go, whatever the decision. I'm leaning toward supporting this proposal, but I'd like to hear from other editors first, including the creator. Notified creator with {{
subst:cfd-notify}}Cgingold (
talk) 13:02, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Comment. Unfortunately the creator of this category is blocked indefinitely.
Beagel (
talk) 13:28, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Ah, I didn't see that; having looked over his talk page, it's not entirely surprising. I guess I'll have to take up some of the slack myself and do a bit of "devil's advocacy".
Cgingold (
talk) 13:59, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Dexter's Laboratory characters
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Delete. I agree with TenPoundHammer, this category has no chance of growing.
DiverseMentality 21:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Civil Air Patrol Wing Commanders
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Nominator's rationale: Delete Very few people who hold or have held this position are
notablerogerd (
talk) 06:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete. One person in the category, and it's a user. Definitely doesn't justify its existence.
DiverseMentality 21:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete. I'm working to clean up several recently created categories so they can be deleted. —
Huntster (
t •
@ •
c) 11:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)reply
If there were contents, I'd say Listify, but it's empty, so isn't it speediable?
76.66.195.190 (
talk) 05:30, 28 December 2008 (UTC)reply
It wasn't when it was listed, and according to
criteria for speedy deletion, it must be empty for four days, which it hasn't yet. --
rogerd (
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Category:Association football commentators
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Nominator's rationale: the established wikipedia disambiguate is 'football (soccer)'
Mayumashu (
talk) 04:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom & recent CFD discussion on super-category.
Cgingold (
talk) 12:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)reply
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