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December 26

Category:Anime (date of release unknown)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. Though not mandated by consensus of this discussion, I'd agree with Peter's recommendation to change these categories to talk-page categories. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Anime (date of release unknown) to Category:Anime (year of release missing)
Propose renaming Category:Manga (date of release unknown) to Category:Manga (year of release missing)
Nominator's rationale: Rename I'm nominating these categories for renaming for two reasons: first, the word "date" should be changed to "year" since we actually don't have an exact date of release for many anime and manga series (though manga is more likely not to have an exact one), and these categories are not intended to cover these cases, but only those in which not even the year of release is known. Second, the word "unknown" should be changed to "missing", per the lead of the (current) parent category Category:Year of work unknown: "This category is for articles about works where the articles do not have a year of establishment because the year is not known and is never likely to be known (eg. historical works)." It is highly unlikely that any anime or manga series would resist all attempts to discover at least a year of release, since the media forms of manga and anime probably haven't been around for long enough for such information to have been completely lost or obscured beyond recovery. — Dino guy 1000 22:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Multiracial actors

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian ( talk) 22:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Category:Multiracial actors ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Category:Multiracial musicians and Category:Multiracial people were deleted for verifiability issues and Overcategorization; this category is no different; also fails NONCATGRS Diverse Mentality 21:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Casio digital watch detainees

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The result of the discussion was: dele.... Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Category:Casio digital watch detainees ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

  • I suspect your little secret is probably safe from the prying eyes of Big Brother here in the sub-basement of Wikipedia. But to be safe, maybe we should scrub it just to be sure you don't get nabbed and vanish into thin air on New Year's Eve. Cgingold ( talk) 06:58, 27 December 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Too late .... no time to fini ...

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Category:Philadelphia Athletics seasons

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename (no opposition). Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Philadelphia Athletics seasons to Category:Philadelphia Athletics (AA) seasons
Nominator's rationale: Match other similar categories for the team's managers and players. Also avoid confusion with other Philadelphia Athletics teams, most notably the team now known as the Oakland Athletics. Dewelar ( talk) 19:57, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Deaths by IDF

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. While there is consensus to rename, there is no consensus on what to rename to, even after relisting. As such, I'm going to take Vegas's suggestion and just rename to Category:Deaths by the Israel Defense Forces in order to expand the acronym. If it's desired to hash out whether this should contain civilian or military, all people or just non-Palestinians, either renominate this for further renaming or use a hatnote. Kbdank71 15:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Category:Deaths by IDF ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete? I'm not sure if we categorize people by the military group that killed them, but any input on this topic is welcome. (If kept, obviously needs to be renamed, maybe to Category:People killed by the Israel Defense Forces.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2008 (UTC) reply
  • I'd lean in favor of 'keeping it, though only if it includes all people, not just civilians, killed by the IDF. Obviously support a rename to Category:People killed by the Israel Defense Forces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomas.macmillan ( talkcontribs)
    • I would have thought it would make more sense to limit it to civilians killed by the IDF, since I can't imagine that the category would be defining for a military death in a war against Israel (see Alansohn's points below). But as Johnbod points out, civilian/military distinctions can be less than a brightline. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, unless an appropriate name can be reached by consensus As named, the category would include all military deaths in all wars fought by Israel since 1948, above and beyond other polemic issues raised by the category. This should be created on a broader basis to cover categories of similar deaths by all parties, if it should exist at all. Alansohn ( talk) 02:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Rename but keep. This is clearly the most defining category for all these individuals, only one of whom would otherwise be notable. It therefore should be kept by WP:CAT. It seems very undercategorized. It could be expanded to cover all deaths, but I don't see this as necessary - the civilian/military distinction is not too clearcut here. See Category:People murdered in the Palestinian territories for a range of the other categories in this area. Johnbod ( talk) 02:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Fixed relist template. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Otto4711 ( talk) 15:42, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators

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The result of the discussion was: merge 3 categories as nominated. Category:Nuclear power companies in the United States can be nominated separately for renaming to "of" standard. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Suggest merging:
Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. All nuclear power station owners and operators are at the same time nuclear power companies and I can't imagine any nuclear power company, which is not owner or operator of the nuclear power station. Of course, there could be some theoretical cases, however, I don't see there could be any case in practice, which can't be solved without the Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators. Also, this category is not necessary for systematic categorization purposes. Beagel ( talk) 08:09, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply
Same principles applies also to subcategories Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators in the United States and Category:Nuclear power station operators in the United States. At the same time, Category:Nuclear power companies in the United States should be renamed Category:Nuclear power companies of the United States to follow the pattern of other company's categories. Beagel ( talk) 20:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Dexter's Laboratory characters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Category:Dexter's Laboratory characters ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Only one item, and even it's on shaky ground. No hope of expansion. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ( Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 06:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Civil Air Patrol Wing Commanders

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC) reply
Category:Civil Air Patrol Wing Commanders ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Very few people who hold or have held this position are notable rogerd ( talk) 06:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Association football commentators

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Association football commentators to Category:Football (soccer) commentators
Nominator's rationale: the established wikipedia disambiguate is 'football (soccer)' Mayumashu ( talk) 04:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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December 26

Category:Anime (date of release unknown)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. Though not mandated by consensus of this discussion, I'd agree with Peter's recommendation to change these categories to talk-page categories. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Anime (date of release unknown) to Category:Anime (year of release missing)
Propose renaming Category:Manga (date of release unknown) to Category:Manga (year of release missing)
Nominator's rationale: Rename I'm nominating these categories for renaming for two reasons: first, the word "date" should be changed to "year" since we actually don't have an exact date of release for many anime and manga series (though manga is more likely not to have an exact one), and these categories are not intended to cover these cases, but only those in which not even the year of release is known. Second, the word "unknown" should be changed to "missing", per the lead of the (current) parent category Category:Year of work unknown: "This category is for articles about works where the articles do not have a year of establishment because the year is not known and is never likely to be known (eg. historical works)." It is highly unlikely that any anime or manga series would resist all attempts to discover at least a year of release, since the media forms of manga and anime probably haven't been around for long enough for such information to have been completely lost or obscured beyond recovery. — Dino guy 1000 22:46, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Multiracial actors

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian ( talk) 22:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Category:Multiracial actors ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Category:Multiracial musicians and Category:Multiracial people were deleted for verifiability issues and Overcategorization; this category is no different; also fails NONCATGRS Diverse Mentality 21:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Casio digital watch detainees

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: dele.... Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Category:Casio digital watch detainees ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

  • I suspect your little secret is probably safe from the prying eyes of Big Brother here in the sub-basement of Wikipedia. But to be safe, maybe we should scrub it just to be sure you don't get nabbed and vanish into thin air on New Year's Eve. Cgingold ( talk) 06:58, 27 December 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Too late .... no time to fini ...

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Category:Philadelphia Athletics seasons

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename (no opposition). Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Philadelphia Athletics seasons to Category:Philadelphia Athletics (AA) seasons
Nominator's rationale: Match other similar categories for the team's managers and players. Also avoid confusion with other Philadelphia Athletics teams, most notably the team now known as the Oakland Athletics. Dewelar ( talk) 19:57, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Deaths by IDF

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. While there is consensus to rename, there is no consensus on what to rename to, even after relisting. As such, I'm going to take Vegas's suggestion and just rename to Category:Deaths by the Israel Defense Forces in order to expand the acronym. If it's desired to hash out whether this should contain civilian or military, all people or just non-Palestinians, either renominate this for further renaming or use a hatnote. Kbdank71 15:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Category:Deaths by IDF ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete? I'm not sure if we categorize people by the military group that killed them, but any input on this topic is welcome. (If kept, obviously needs to be renamed, maybe to Category:People killed by the Israel Defense Forces.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2008 (UTC) reply
  • I'd lean in favor of 'keeping it, though only if it includes all people, not just civilians, killed by the IDF. Obviously support a rename to Category:People killed by the Israel Defense Forces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomas.macmillan ( talkcontribs)
    • I would have thought it would make more sense to limit it to civilians killed by the IDF, since I can't imagine that the category would be defining for a military death in a war against Israel (see Alansohn's points below). But as Johnbod points out, civilian/military distinctions can be less than a brightline. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, unless an appropriate name can be reached by consensus As named, the category would include all military deaths in all wars fought by Israel since 1948, above and beyond other polemic issues raised by the category. This should be created on a broader basis to cover categories of similar deaths by all parties, if it should exist at all. Alansohn ( talk) 02:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Rename but keep. This is clearly the most defining category for all these individuals, only one of whom would otherwise be notable. It therefore should be kept by WP:CAT. It seems very undercategorized. It could be expanded to cover all deaths, but I don't see this as necessary - the civilian/military distinction is not too clearcut here. See Category:People murdered in the Palestinian territories for a range of the other categories in this area. Johnbod ( talk) 02:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Fixed relist template. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Otto4711 ( talk) 15:42, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge 3 categories as nominated. Category:Nuclear power companies in the United States can be nominated separately for renaming to "of" standard. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Suggest merging:
Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. All nuclear power station owners and operators are at the same time nuclear power companies and I can't imagine any nuclear power company, which is not owner or operator of the nuclear power station. Of course, there could be some theoretical cases, however, I don't see there could be any case in practice, which can't be solved without the Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators. Also, this category is not necessary for systematic categorization purposes. Beagel ( talk) 08:09, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply
Same principles applies also to subcategories Category:Nuclear power station owners and operators in the United States and Category:Nuclear power station operators in the United States. At the same time, Category:Nuclear power companies in the United States should be renamed Category:Nuclear power companies of the United States to follow the pattern of other company's categories. Beagel ( talk) 20:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Dexter's Laboratory characters

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Category:Dexter's Laboratory characters ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Only one item, and even it's on shaky ground. No hope of expansion. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ( Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 06:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Civil Air Patrol Wing Commanders

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC) reply
Category:Civil Air Patrol Wing Commanders ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete Very few people who hold or have held this position are notable rogerd ( talk) 06:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Association football commentators

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Association football commentators to Category:Football (soccer) commentators
Nominator's rationale: the established wikipedia disambiguate is 'football (soccer)' Mayumashu ( talk) 04:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC) reply

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

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