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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 08:12, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Zaurs Džavadovs
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Fails WP:NKICK, WP:NBOX and WP:GNG Nswix ( talk) 16:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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Spiderone
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17:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- As I am not an enthusiast of martial arts sports or boxing, I cannot comment on the first two guidelines, but I would like a more detailed explanation on how this athlete of considerable national importance (in terms of Latvian sport) breaches WP:GNG. Ivario ( talk) 09:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- KEEP - He held multiple WKN titles, which the Kickboxing Project cites as being notable (just competing on a WKN show makes you) - /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Martial_arts/Kickboxing_task_force#Notability and he did a Nike commercial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDapU5aXgE0.He also has a nice amount of Google News articles about him - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Zaurs+D%C5%BEavadovs%22&client=firefox-b-1-d&tbm=nws&ei=ENP_Y-jPGPvl5NoPhuu9oA8&start=10&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjol9SS5bv9AhX7MlkFHYZ1D_QQ8NMDegQIBBAI&biw=1920&bih=955&dpr=1 KatoKungLee ( talk) 22:29, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I see no place where it says just competing on a WKN card shows notability. The existing notability criteria for kickboxers is WP:NKICK. Appearing in a commercial is also not a notability criteria. I haven't done the research to make an informed vote on notability. Papaursa ( talk) 13:43, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty ( talk) 17:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. The kickboxing project is not a guideline and is thus irrelevant. What matters is GNG.
[1] is a primary blow-by-blow fight summary that was written by his PR rep Janis Eisaks,
.
[2] is another primary fight recap with little secondary content, .
[3] is six sentences of mostly routine fight results, .
[4] is an interview, and almost everything that isn't in quotes is still non-independent, e.g. "Džavadovs reveals" or "Džavadovs found", rather than analysis by the author, .
[5] is a write-up on his wedding with an unclear amount of info provided directly from Janis Eisaks...
[6] is another fight recap from Eisaks, .
JoelleJay (
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22:31, 6 March 2023 (UTC) - Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. Any WP:LOCALCONSENSUS on the Kickboxing Project is irrelevant as it cannot override community consensus on a wider scale. Alvaldi ( talk) 20:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete He's had some success as a kickboxer, but not enough to meet WP:NKICK. The other day I went through the history of Combat Press's world kickboxing rankings and did not see him mentioned once. The references seem to be routine sports results and nothing that would support a claim of meeting WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 21:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 08:12, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Zaurs Džavadovs
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Fails WP:NKICK, WP:NBOX and WP:GNG Nswix ( talk) 16:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Martial arts and Latvia. Nswix ( talk) 16:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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Spiderone
(Talk to Spider)
17:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- As I am not an enthusiast of martial arts sports or boxing, I cannot comment on the first two guidelines, but I would like a more detailed explanation on how this athlete of considerable national importance (in terms of Latvian sport) breaches WP:GNG. Ivario ( talk) 09:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- KEEP - He held multiple WKN titles, which the Kickboxing Project cites as being notable (just competing on a WKN show makes you) - /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Martial_arts/Kickboxing_task_force#Notability and he did a Nike commercial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDapU5aXgE0.He also has a nice amount of Google News articles about him - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Zaurs+D%C5%BEavadovs%22&client=firefox-b-1-d&tbm=nws&ei=ENP_Y-jPGPvl5NoPhuu9oA8&start=10&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjol9SS5bv9AhX7MlkFHYZ1D_QQ8NMDegQIBBAI&biw=1920&bih=955&dpr=1 KatoKungLee ( talk) 22:29, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I see no place where it says just competing on a WKN card shows notability. The existing notability criteria for kickboxers is WP:NKICK. Appearing in a commercial is also not a notability criteria. I haven't done the research to make an informed vote on notability. Papaursa ( talk) 13:43, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty ( talk) 17:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. The kickboxing project is not a guideline and is thus irrelevant. What matters is GNG.
[1] is a primary blow-by-blow fight summary that was written by his PR rep Janis Eisaks, .
[2] is another primary fight recap with little secondary content, .
[3] is six sentences of mostly routine fight results, .
[4] is an interview, and almost everything that isn't in quotes is still non-independent, e.g. "Džavadovs reveals" or "Džavadovs found", rather than analysis by the author, .
[5] is a write-up on his wedding with an unclear amount of info provided directly from Janis Eisaks...
[6] is another fight recap from Eisaks, .
JoelleJay (
talk)
22:31, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. Any WP:LOCALCONSENSUS on the Kickboxing Project is irrelevant as it cannot override community consensus on a wider scale. Alvaldi ( talk) 20:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete He's had some success as a kickboxer, but not enough to meet WP:NKICK. The other day I went through the history of Combat Press's world kickboxing rankings and did not see him mentioned once. The references seem to be routine sports results and nothing that would support a claim of meeting WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 21:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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