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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 08:18, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Yin Yin Oo
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BLP lacking in depth coverage in English sources. There may be Burmese sources I am not able to assess. Mccapra ( talk) 03:33, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - meets neither WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. Onel5969 TT me 13:38, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Sources may be more easily found using the correct spelling of her Burmese name, "ယဉ်ယဉ်ဦး" (it is spelt wrong in the article, I have amended this), or with the honorific, "Daw Yin Yin Oo". I would argue the subject does meet
WP:NPOL as a current and former member of different forms of the Burmese military junta (i.e. she has held "national...office" and is currently in office) and as a prominent diplomat representing them. New sources in both Burmese and English about this individual include:
- Irrawaddy News (in Burmese) About her appointment as an advisor in the current junta
- Irrawaddy News (in English) About her role in the Burmese Foreign Ministry in 2011
- Irrawaddy News (in English) Again about her role in the Burmese Foreign Ministry in 2011 - pinktoebeans (talk) 15:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment But again none of those contains in depth coverage. The Burmese one is the briefest passing mentions, and the English ones are little better.
Mccapra (
talk)
15:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ Mccapra: I agree, but I would have thought the fact she is in office right now and has held prominent diplomatic positions in the past would give her merit for an article. pinktoebeans (talk) 17:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment But again none of those contains in depth coverage. The Burmese one is the briefest passing mentions, and the English ones are little better.
Mccapra (
talk)
15:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Another member of the advisory board to the administrative council (which is still not even mentioned in the article on the administrative council). The case seems very similar to
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khin Oo Hlaing. The media situation and language barrier being what they are, we're likely to have quite a few similar stubs.
Furius (
talk)
23:26, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ Furius: I think the difference here is Yin Yin Oo was in office as a diplomat before being elected to the SAC, and that's what I think scrapes her into notability. Waiting to see what other editors, particularly ones who are able to access more Burmese sources, think. pinktoebeans (talk) 11:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Clearly passes WP:NPOL. She was the deputy director-general in the MFA. A deputy head of the state level government department is considered notable per WP:POLOUTCOMES — "Sub-cabinet officials (assistant secretary, commissioner, etc.) are usually considered notable, especially if they have had otherwise notable careers." She is eligible for an article whether or not she has been advisor in the current junta government. Taung Tan ( talk) 02:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Being a deputy director-general of MOFA, she herself meets NPOL whether she's a member of the advisory board or not. Htanaungg ( talk) 05:51, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, passes NPOL. Jackattack1597 ( talk) 00:32, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, per NPOL, even if the article could use some TLC and expansion. - Pax Verbum 06:07, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. RL0919 ( talk) 08:18, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Yin Yin Oo
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BLP lacking in depth coverage in English sources. There may be Burmese sources I am not able to assess. Mccapra ( talk) 03:33, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Mccapra ( talk) 03:33, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - meets neither WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. Onel5969 TT me 13:38, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Sources may be more easily found using the correct spelling of her Burmese name, "ယဉ်ယဉ်ဦး" (it is spelt wrong in the article, I have amended this), or with the honorific, "Daw Yin Yin Oo". I would argue the subject does meet
WP:NPOL as a current and former member of different forms of the Burmese military junta (i.e. she has held "national...office" and is currently in office) and as a prominent diplomat representing them. New sources in both Burmese and English about this individual include:
- Irrawaddy News (in Burmese) About her appointment as an advisor in the current junta
- Irrawaddy News (in English) About her role in the Burmese Foreign Ministry in 2011
- Irrawaddy News (in English) Again about her role in the Burmese Foreign Ministry in 2011 - pinktoebeans (talk) 15:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment But again none of those contains in depth coverage. The Burmese one is the briefest passing mentions, and the English ones are little better.
Mccapra (
talk)
15:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ Mccapra: I agree, but I would have thought the fact she is in office right now and has held prominent diplomatic positions in the past would give her merit for an article. pinktoebeans (talk) 17:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment But again none of those contains in depth coverage. The Burmese one is the briefest passing mentions, and the English ones are little better.
Mccapra (
talk)
15:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Another member of the advisory board to the administrative council (which is still not even mentioned in the article on the administrative council). The case seems very similar to
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khin Oo Hlaing. The media situation and language barrier being what they are, we're likely to have quite a few similar stubs.
Furius (
talk)
23:26, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ Furius: I think the difference here is Yin Yin Oo was in office as a diplomat before being elected to the SAC, and that's what I think scrapes her into notability. Waiting to see what other editors, particularly ones who are able to access more Burmese sources, think. pinktoebeans (talk) 11:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Clearly passes WP:NPOL. She was the deputy director-general in the MFA. A deputy head of the state level government department is considered notable per WP:POLOUTCOMES — "Sub-cabinet officials (assistant secretary, commissioner, etc.) are usually considered notable, especially if they have had otherwise notable careers." She is eligible for an article whether or not she has been advisor in the current junta government. Taung Tan ( talk) 02:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Being a deputy director-general of MOFA, she herself meets NPOL whether she's a member of the advisory board or not. Htanaungg ( talk) 05:51, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, passes NPOL. Jackattack1597 ( talk) 00:32, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, per NPOL, even if the article could use some TLC and expansion. - Pax Verbum 06:07, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
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