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Does not meet GNG nor WP:BIO; subject has coverage in tabloid media (newspapers). Subject has done nothing notable other than founding a company.
Ireneshih (
talk)
11:10, 25 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep Granted, it is an obvious piece of self-promotion and needs paring down. Creative professionals in all fields do this on Wikipedia (or try), the thing is, we keep the articles if notability can be verified. Even if they are lousy articles. But this is far from the worst of the type: it actually has some usable sources. Coverage in
tabloids such as
ABC certainly counts towards notability. Note, however, that
El Economista is not a tabloid. And legitimate Hebrew news media (
TheMarker) that cover business. There does seem to be notability established by these sources and by sources including:
[1] for Meiri/Orpan Group under
WP:CREATIVE"# 3. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." i.e., the attractions he and his company creates garner significant media attention. He falls more or less into the category of notable curators or set designers; see, for example,
Lisa Small,
George Tsypin). I have added category: museum exhibit designers to article, click on it and see that we have multiple articles about careers of this type. Also, where a creative artist and the corporation he founds are more or less synonymous, we have a single article with notability supported by articles about the artist and/or about the corporation (cf.
Georg Jensen;
Anne Klein)
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
17:35, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Slightly Weak Keep, nominator routinely nominates articles and mentions "tabloid" newspapers but either uses that as a weasel word or doesn't realize the distinction in printing between tabloid and broadsheet. Regardless, there's enough sources and claims and assertions of notability to keep this, even a bit weakly though.
Delete too many of the citations are to building that don't even mention him. This is almost a "one event person" as those articles that do mention him are predominately about Toledo. The coverage is not in-depth. --
Bejnar (
talk)
19:54, 13 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete - not enough in-depth coverage to show they pass
WP:GNG - 5 trivial mentions on News; zip on Newspapers, Highbeam and Scholar; a single trivial hit on Books.
Onel5969TT me13:24, 17 December 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Does not meet GNG nor WP:BIO; subject has coverage in tabloid media (newspapers). Subject has done nothing notable other than founding a company.
Ireneshih (
talk)
11:10, 25 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep Granted, it is an obvious piece of self-promotion and needs paring down. Creative professionals in all fields do this on Wikipedia (or try), the thing is, we keep the articles if notability can be verified. Even if they are lousy articles. But this is far from the worst of the type: it actually has some usable sources. Coverage in
tabloids such as
ABC certainly counts towards notability. Note, however, that
El Economista is not a tabloid. And legitimate Hebrew news media (
TheMarker) that cover business. There does seem to be notability established by these sources and by sources including:
[1] for Meiri/Orpan Group under
WP:CREATIVE"# 3. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." i.e., the attractions he and his company creates garner significant media attention. He falls more or less into the category of notable curators or set designers; see, for example,
Lisa Small,
George Tsypin). I have added category: museum exhibit designers to article, click on it and see that we have multiple articles about careers of this type. Also, where a creative artist and the corporation he founds are more or less synonymous, we have a single article with notability supported by articles about the artist and/or about the corporation (cf.
Georg Jensen;
Anne Klein)
E.M.Gregory (
talk)
17:35, 29 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Slightly Weak Keep, nominator routinely nominates articles and mentions "tabloid" newspapers but either uses that as a weasel word or doesn't realize the distinction in printing between tabloid and broadsheet. Regardless, there's enough sources and claims and assertions of notability to keep this, even a bit weakly though.
Delete too many of the citations are to building that don't even mention him. This is almost a "one event person" as those articles that do mention him are predominately about Toledo. The coverage is not in-depth. --
Bejnar (
talk)
19:54, 13 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete - not enough in-depth coverage to show they pass
WP:GNG - 5 trivial mentions on News; zip on Newspapers, Highbeam and Scholar; a single trivial hit on Books.
Onel5969TT me13:24, 17 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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