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The result was delete. - Solely on the basis of the nominator's and EBstrunk18's arguments, discounting the one SPA, there is consensus to delete. As is often the case with these subjects, it's entirely possible that we might be missing non-English sources. But the overly promotional tone of the article is also a concern. So we'll consider this a soft delete. If the creator would like me to userify the text for them to work on, that would be fine. § FreeRangeFrog croak 04:58, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Yala Music
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I did a thorough Google search and came up with no reliable sources covering this subject. I was barely able to find some press releases and other stuff that does not qualify for GNG. I was tempted to speedy delete it per G11, but I decided to go this route instead. Feel free to trout me if I should have indeed speedy'd it. → Call me Hahc 21 05:37, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
I also did multiple search and no reliable sources. This article need to be speedy deleted. → Call me humain2 21 06:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment - With a few different searches, I was able to find two sources that don't appear to be press releases: Wamda.com and Hypebot.com. I'm not sure these push the article past the WP:GNG, as the latter is an interview (those are counted as a primary resources?) and neither blog is necessarily notable. But it does sound like the company is more notable in the Arabic music industry. Is there a better resource search tool than Google for non-US companies? EBstrunk18 ( talk) 17:37, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 ( talk) 02:34, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - I did some more digging and found this Wall Street Journal post. But I'm not sure this resource is enough to help meet WP:GNG/ WP:COMPANY standards. Maybe a more experienced editor would care to weigh in? I'm going to take a look at carving out the promotional tone of the article in the meantime. EBstrunk18 ( talk) 17:32, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment -
Wamda.com and
Hypebot.com appear like sponsored articles. They have no added value. Google remains the search engine most used in the Arab world. You cannot use Wikipedia for self promotion. This article need to be deleted.
humain2 (
talk) 17:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- @ Humain2: - As I tried to indicate in my original comments, and perhaps did so poorly, I completely agree that the article is pumped full of promotional content (so much so that I had trouble cutting it from the article, as I indicated on article's talk page). For my own future reference, though, I'm curious what makes the Wamda article (the hypebot article is an interview, so that counts as a primary source?) look like sponsored content to you? By no means am I arguing to keep the page, and the blog appears unnotable, but the writer appears to have no affiliation with the company and his content doesn't appear to be lifted from a press release. Again, I'm only asking for future reference; I'd like to be a better researcher. Thanks! EBstrunk18 ( talk) 19:58, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- @ EBstrunk18: - Thank you EBstrunk18 for your investigation. The article on hypebot look like sponsored because there is many backlinks with "follow links" to some specific pages to yala.fm and the promotional tone of the content realize that it is a sponsored Article. humain2 ( talk) 06:47, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Comment -
Wamda.com and
Hypebot.com appear like sponsored articles. They have no added value. Google remains the search engine most used in the Arab world. You cannot use Wikipedia for self promotion. This article need to be deleted.
humain2 (
talk) 17:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - After extensively trying to find published, reliable, third party resources, and even trying to clean up the promotional tone of the article, I couldn't find the resources nor do anything to help the page meet WP:GNG standards. EBstrunk18 ( talk) 19:58, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. - Solely on the basis of the nominator's and EBstrunk18's arguments, discounting the one SPA, there is consensus to delete. As is often the case with these subjects, it's entirely possible that we might be missing non-English sources. But the overly promotional tone of the article is also a concern. So we'll consider this a soft delete. If the creator would like me to userify the text for them to work on, that would be fine. § FreeRangeFrog croak 04:58, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Yala Music
- Yala Music ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
I did a thorough Google search and came up with no reliable sources covering this subject. I was barely able to find some press releases and other stuff that does not qualify for GNG. I was tempted to speedy delete it per G11, but I decided to go this route instead. Feel free to trout me if I should have indeed speedy'd it. → Call me Hahc 21 05:37, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
I also did multiple search and no reliable sources. This article need to be speedy deleted. → Call me humain2 21 06:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:54, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:54, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:54, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:54, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 13:55, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - With a few different searches, I was able to find two sources that don't appear to be press releases: Wamda.com and Hypebot.com. I'm not sure these push the article past the WP:GNG, as the latter is an interview (those are counted as a primary resources?) and neither blog is necessarily notable. But it does sound like the company is more notable in the Arabic music industry. Is there a better resource search tool than Google for non-US companies? EBstrunk18 ( talk) 17:37, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
-
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 ( talk) 02:34, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - I did some more digging and found this Wall Street Journal post. But I'm not sure this resource is enough to help meet WP:GNG/ WP:COMPANY standards. Maybe a more experienced editor would care to weigh in? I'm going to take a look at carving out the promotional tone of the article in the meantime. EBstrunk18 ( talk) 17:32, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment -
Wamda.com and
Hypebot.com appear like sponsored articles. They have no added value. Google remains the search engine most used in the Arab world. You cannot use Wikipedia for self promotion. This article need to be deleted.
humain2 (
talk) 17:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- @ Humain2: - As I tried to indicate in my original comments, and perhaps did so poorly, I completely agree that the article is pumped full of promotional content (so much so that I had trouble cutting it from the article, as I indicated on article's talk page). For my own future reference, though, I'm curious what makes the Wamda article (the hypebot article is an interview, so that counts as a primary source?) look like sponsored content to you? By no means am I arguing to keep the page, and the blog appears unnotable, but the writer appears to have no affiliation with the company and his content doesn't appear to be lifted from a press release. Again, I'm only asking for future reference; I'd like to be a better researcher. Thanks! EBstrunk18 ( talk) 19:58, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- @ EBstrunk18: - Thank you EBstrunk18 for your investigation. The article on hypebot look like sponsored because there is many backlinks with "follow links" to some specific pages to yala.fm and the promotional tone of the content realize that it is a sponsored Article. humain2 ( talk) 06:47, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Comment -
Wamda.com and
Hypebot.com appear like sponsored articles. They have no added value. Google remains the search engine most used in the Arab world. You cannot use Wikipedia for self promotion. This article need to be deleted.
humain2 (
talk) 17:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - After extensively trying to find published, reliable, third party resources, and even trying to clean up the promotional tone of the article, I couldn't find the resources nor do anything to help the page meet WP:GNG standards. EBstrunk18 ( talk) 19:58, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
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