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The result was keep. Consensus is that the subject is notable, even if not specifically as a singer. bd2412 T 02:39, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Wu Tsing-fong
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Fan-biography for a singer of a group who lacks independent notability. Masdggg, with 58 edits, is reverting a redirect, turning it into an article that lacks secondary sourcing proving the person is notable per GNG or per MUSICBIO. I don't necessarily think we should delete this, a redirect seems appropriate, but we do need to make clear that we have standards. Drmies ( talk) 18:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 18:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Taiwan-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 18:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep 看来我必须得用中文才能明确表达我的意思（因为我是中国人，中文是我的第一语言）。您去Google或百度（Baidu）搜索一下，有大量关于吴青峰（Wu Tsing-fong）的报道（主要是中国媒体<含港澳台媒体>），可见其知名度是相当地高，完全具备独立关注度（independent notability）。现在，苏打绿乐队（Sodagreen）虽然不解散，但主唱吴青峰已经开始独立发展（develop independently），有自己的音乐作品和音乐公司，也多次以个人身份参加综艺节目（TV show）及演唱会（concert）。例如，他在《歌手2019》（Singer 2019）既担任竞演歌手，又担任主持人。可惜的是，阁下您并不懂中文，看不懂中文媒体的报道，才误以为吴青峰没有独立关注度。建议您还是搜索他的中文名（Search for his Chinese name）“吴青峰/吳青峰”吧。
-- Masdggg ( talk) 19:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sodagreen, and protect that redirect from reversion. I have some familiarity with this singer and his band. Wu has done very little that is notable outside of Sodagreen, and note that his music award is for one of the band's songs, not for a solo product. His few outside activities, like the 2019 singing competition, can be mentioned as historical tidbits in the band's biography. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 13:34, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Agree with the above that he has no notability as a solo singer. The 2019 TV show, while popular, does not help his case. However, he appears to be a very notable songwriter. The zh.wiki article lists 128 pop songs he wrote for other artists since 2004. Winning "Best Composer" at the 18th Golden Melody Awards and "Best Lyricist" at the 27th Golden Melody Awards, IMO, tips the scales towards KEEP. (Even though the winning tracks were by Sodagreen, he was the sole awardee on both occasions, as far as I can see.) Another consideration is that Sodagreen has apparently entered a hiatus, and as mentioned above, Wu has been developing independently, not just as a singer-songwriter, but also as a TV show host and actor. Timmyshin ( talk) 23:55, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Per Masdggg's reason -- Mariogoods ( talk) 10:27, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep. Consensus is that the subject is notable, even if not specifically as a singer. bd2412 T 02:39, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Wu Tsing-fong
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Fan-biography for a singer of a group who lacks independent notability. Masdggg, with 58 edits, is reverting a redirect, turning it into an article that lacks secondary sourcing proving the person is notable per GNG or per MUSICBIO. I don't necessarily think we should delete this, a redirect seems appropriate, but we do need to make clear that we have standards. Drmies ( talk) 18:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 18:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Taiwan-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 18:57, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep 看来我必须得用中文才能明确表达我的意思（因为我是中国人，中文是我的第一语言）。您去Google或百度（Baidu）搜索一下，有大量关于吴青峰（Wu Tsing-fong）的报道（主要是中国媒体<含港澳台媒体>），可见其知名度是相当地高，完全具备独立关注度（independent notability）。现在，苏打绿乐队（Sodagreen）虽然不解散，但主唱吴青峰已经开始独立发展（develop independently），有自己的音乐作品和音乐公司，也多次以个人身份参加综艺节目（TV show）及演唱会（concert）。例如，他在《歌手2019》（Singer 2019）既担任竞演歌手，又担任主持人。可惜的是，阁下您并不懂中文，看不懂中文媒体的报道，才误以为吴青峰没有独立关注度。建议您还是搜索他的中文名（Search for his Chinese name）“吴青峰/吳青峰”吧。
-- Masdggg ( talk) 19:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sodagreen, and protect that redirect from reversion. I have some familiarity with this singer and his band. Wu has done very little that is notable outside of Sodagreen, and note that his music award is for one of the band's songs, not for a solo product. His few outside activities, like the 2019 singing competition, can be mentioned as historical tidbits in the band's biography. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 13:34, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Agree with the above that he has no notability as a solo singer. The 2019 TV show, while popular, does not help his case. However, he appears to be a very notable songwriter. The zh.wiki article lists 128 pop songs he wrote for other artists since 2004. Winning "Best Composer" at the 18th Golden Melody Awards and "Best Lyricist" at the 27th Golden Melody Awards, IMO, tips the scales towards KEEP. (Even though the winning tracks were by Sodagreen, he was the sole awardee on both occasions, as far as I can see.) Another consideration is that Sodagreen has apparently entered a hiatus, and as mentioned above, Wu has been developing independently, not just as a singer-songwriter, but also as a TV show host and actor. Timmyshin ( talk) 23:55, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Per Masdggg's reason -- Mariogoods ( talk) 10:27, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.