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The result was keep. BD2412 T 19:16, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NSOLDIER, as only a brevet general (honorary appointment, not the same thing as an actual promotion), was only officially a colonel. Seems to be a GNG failure too, albeit a close-ish one. Gets a paragraph in Eicher's Civil War High Commands [1], but the coverage consists only of a listing of where he was assigned during the American Civil War. The "National Cyclopaedia of American Biography" [2] gives him a very nice writeup, but we need more than that. The rest of the coverage I can find is in blogs, find-a-grave (unreliable), primary source government military reports (primary sources do not establish notability), and a website titled "antietam on the web" that seems to be self-published/blog. Hog Farm ( talk) 21:32, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
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Delete- Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. Passing mention in online sources. Magnolia677 ( talk) 21:42, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per User:Hawkeye7. Magnolia677 ( talk) 17:33, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete Brevet (military) does not satisfy #2 of WP:SOLDIER and in any event he lacks WP:SIGCOV in multiple WP:RS. Mztourist ( talk) 03:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ANYBIO: The person has an entry in the Dictionary of National Biography or similar publication. The National Cyclopaedia of American Biography seems to meet this criterion. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- @ Hawkeye7: I was only able to find this mention. Do you have a link? Thanks! Magnolia677 ( talk) 08:50, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- Weak keep yes there's an entry in The National Cyclopaedia of American Biography which almost definitely meets WP:ANYBIO; but I've always thought that particular encyclopedia rather weak sourcing wise and perhaps the lowest quality such publication. ( "The most extensive, and least scholarly, of the major biographical sets...based on questionnaires completed by individuals or their families") Eddie891 Talk Work 21:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: The only thing better than a glass of
Château Latour (2005)Everclear (2019, 190 proof) is references on articles. WP:NEXIST would likely be relevant here. -- Otr500 ( talk) 21:44, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. BD2412 T 19:16, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
William Stretch Abert
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Fails WP:NSOLDIER, as only a brevet general (honorary appointment, not the same thing as an actual promotion), was only officially a colonel. Seems to be a GNG failure too, albeit a close-ish one. Gets a paragraph in Eicher's Civil War High Commands [1], but the coverage consists only of a listing of where he was assigned during the American Civil War. The "National Cyclopaedia of American Biography" [2] gives him a very nice writeup, but we need more than that. The rest of the coverage I can find is in blogs, find-a-grave (unreliable), primary source government military reports (primary sources do not establish notability), and a website titled "antietam on the web" that seems to be self-published/blog. Hog Farm ( talk) 21:32, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
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Delete- Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. Passing mention in online sources. Magnolia677 ( talk) 21:42, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per User:Hawkeye7. Magnolia677 ( talk) 17:33, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 23:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Brevet (military) does not satisfy #2 of WP:SOLDIER and in any event he lacks WP:SIGCOV in multiple WP:RS. Mztourist ( talk) 03:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ANYBIO: The person has an entry in the Dictionary of National Biography or similar publication. The National Cyclopaedia of American Biography seems to meet this criterion. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- @ Hawkeye7: I was only able to find this mention. Do you have a link? Thanks! Magnolia677 ( talk) 08:50, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- Weak keep yes there's an entry in The National Cyclopaedia of American Biography which almost definitely meets WP:ANYBIO; but I've always thought that particular encyclopedia rather weak sourcing wise and perhaps the lowest quality such publication. ( "The most extensive, and least scholarly, of the major biographical sets...based on questionnaires completed by individuals or their families") Eddie891 Talk Work 21:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: The only thing better than a glass of
Château Latour (2005)Everclear (2019, 190 proof) is references on articles. WP:NEXIST would likely be relevant here. -- Otr500 ( talk) 21:44, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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