- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus to delete, or otherwise remove from mainspace, noting that late participation tended towards keeping (or changing to keep) based on improvements to the article.
BD2412
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02:15, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Voice of Africa FM (Uganda)
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Non-notable radio station. The sources cited merely document its existence, and a search finds nothing beyond the usual directory listings and social media accounts etc. Fails WP:GNG, the core requirement in WP:NRADIO. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 10:09, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio, Africa, and Uganda. DoubleGrazing ( talk) 10:09, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Return to Draft ( Draft:Voice of Africa (Uganda) Note: No FM.) and SALT. This is not ready for main article space, and the (nearly) sole editor keeps moving it. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:32, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete and salt: Fails
WP:GNG. I am not persuaded that the minor claim to notability Historically, it was the first Moslem radio in the country is sufficient. I am not keen on returning this to Draft. That is simply a 'deletion by the back door' in the case of this article. 🇺🇦
FiddleTimtrent
FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦
13:53, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
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Comment: After reading
Tcr25's plea below to re-visit the article, I have done so. I have assessed the references as they stand currently and regret that I am unable to change my view. I am content to be alerted should better references be found. I emphasise better rather than more. Indeed, fewer references with better quality are more likely to change my mind than a surfeit of references. 🇺🇦
FiddleTimtrent
FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦
21:20, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for giving it a look. I'd note that the references added are better (newspapers and a book, as opposed to directory listings and social media accounts) and they're more only because more specific information was added (and thus needed to be sourced). — Carter (Tcr25) ( talk) 21:41, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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Draftify (not completely sure about SALTing).(After reworking it some, change !vote to Keep.) A few things do pop up about it in regards to its early funding by Ghaddafi and this article discussing some fallout around the station management after Ghaddafi's death would imply that there likely is other coverage of it out there (probably in offline sources). It needs work (I've added this source and another one about the station's relationship with Islamic musicians), but I think it should pass GNG. — Carter (Tcr25) ( talk) 19:50, 29 November 2022 (UTC)- SALT prevents the user from circumventing the AFC review process. Since the primary author of this article has unilaterally moved this into main article space multiple times, I have no doubt they will continue to do so unless this is SALTed. Likewise, if deleted. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
19:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Understood. — Carter (Tcr25) ( talk) 20:00, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- SALT prevents the user from circumventing the AFC review process. Since the primary author of this article has unilaterally moved this into main article space multiple times, I have no doubt they will continue to do so unless this is SALTed. Likewise, if deleted. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
19:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment per WP:HEY, I've done some reworking of the article (it's still pretty stubby though and needs more work/improvement). Would appreciate those who've !voted taking a second look. — Carter (Tcr25) ( talk) 20:32, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 13:09, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:GNG per Carter's improvements. SBKSPP ( talk) 04:44, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. As improved, it needs the requirements. Further objection regarding notability might be construed as indication of Western-centric bias. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 19:43, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus to delete, or otherwise remove from mainspace, noting that late participation tended towards keeping (or changing to keep) based on improvements to the article.
BD2412
T
02:15, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Voice of Africa FM (Uganda)
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- Voice of Africa FM (Uganda) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable radio station. The sources cited merely document its existence, and a search finds nothing beyond the usual directory listings and social media accounts etc. Fails WP:GNG, the core requirement in WP:NRADIO. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 10:09, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio, Africa, and Uganda. DoubleGrazing ( talk) 10:09, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Return to Draft ( Draft:Voice of Africa (Uganda) Note: No FM.) and SALT. This is not ready for main article space, and the (nearly) sole editor keeps moving it. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:32, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete and salt: Fails
WP:GNG. I am not persuaded that the minor claim to notability Historically, it was the first Moslem radio in the country is sufficient. I am not keen on returning this to Draft. That is simply a 'deletion by the back door' in the case of this article. 🇺🇦
FiddleTimtrent
FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦
13:53, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
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Comment: After reading
Tcr25's plea below to re-visit the article, I have done so. I have assessed the references as they stand currently and regret that I am unable to change my view. I am content to be alerted should better references be found. I emphasise better rather than more. Indeed, fewer references with better quality are more likely to change my mind than a surfeit of references. 🇺🇦
FiddleTimtrent
FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦
21:20, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for giving it a look. I'd note that the references added are better (newspapers and a book, as opposed to directory listings and social media accounts) and they're more only because more specific information was added (and thus needed to be sourced). — Carter (Tcr25) ( talk) 21:41, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
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Draftify (not completely sure about SALTing).(After reworking it some, change !vote to Keep.) A few things do pop up about it in regards to its early funding by Ghaddafi and this article discussing some fallout around the station management after Ghaddafi's death would imply that there likely is other coverage of it out there (probably in offline sources). It needs work (I've added this source and another one about the station's relationship with Islamic musicians), but I think it should pass GNG. — Carter (Tcr25) ( talk) 19:50, 29 November 2022 (UTC)- SALT prevents the user from circumventing the AFC review process. Since the primary author of this article has unilaterally moved this into main article space multiple times, I have no doubt they will continue to do so unless this is SALTed. Likewise, if deleted. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
19:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Understood. — Carter (Tcr25) ( talk) 20:00, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- SALT prevents the user from circumventing the AFC review process. Since the primary author of this article has unilaterally moved this into main article space multiple times, I have no doubt they will continue to do so unless this is SALTed. Likewise, if deleted. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
19:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment per WP:HEY, I've done some reworking of the article (it's still pretty stubby though and needs more work/improvement). Would appreciate those who've !voted taking a second look. — Carter (Tcr25) ( talk) 20:32, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 13:09, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:GNG per Carter's improvements. SBKSPP ( talk) 04:44, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. As improved, it needs the requirements. Further objection regarding notability might be construed as indication of Western-centric bias. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 19:43, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.