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The result was delete. Wizardman 11:52, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
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Career minor league player who fails WP:MLB/N immediately. Has retired so will not ever satisfy. Only sources are WP:ROUTINE. PROD correctly removed as it was 2nd nomination. GauchoDude ( talk) 20:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
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Delete I think he might come close to passing GNG, but doesn't quite get there.-- Yankees10 23:37, 22 September 2014 (UTC)Keep Muboshgu's sources were enough for me.-- Yankees10 17:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)- After reading others responses, I'm pretty neutral at this point.-- Yankees10 16:54, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
I'll look at this one again. Certainly not as strong a case as Mitch Haniger had, might be a weak keep or a delete from me. – Muboshgu ( talk) 14:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)- Keep With a little bit more targeted searching, I found some more articles, like this Seattle Times piece on his graduation from Police Academy, and these Honolulu Star-Bulletin pieces [1] [2] [3], which combined with the existing articles cited, I think puts it over the mark as "significant coverage" over time from multiple publications. Yankees10, let me know if this changes your mind, or if it doesn't. – Muboshgu ( talk) 14:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah that's probably enough to change my vote. I think he goes beyond run of the mill so all I needed was a few more sources.-- Yankees10 17:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete.. This guy is an unexceptional ex-baseball player who never played in the Majors. Hawaii sources are of the standard "local boy gets drafted" variety that you get about almost every minor league player.. and the Seattle report is simply a human interest story... these don't rise to the level for me to say this run of the mill ballplayer is worthy of an article. Spanneraol ( talk) 15:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with Spanneraol's comment above. As I've said many times in these AfDs, if this sort of coverage is enough to pass GNG, then literally every U.S.-born player in Minor League Baseball has enough media coverage to pass GNG. - Bbny-wiki-editor ( talk) 21:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NBASEBALL and WP:GNG. Extremely non-notable minor league career with no appearances in MLB. Mdtemp ( talk) 18:34, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. Most minor league players do not get this much coverage, especially covering a multitude of aspects of his career (and retirement). 00:39, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - The one-pitch-strikeout material is pretty great, and added to coverage for sure, but it does not make for notability - certainly not WP:NBASEBALL. A mini-bio (as suggested at NBASEBALL) is all we should expect. -- Tgeairn ( talk) 00:36, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete – per Spanneraol's argument. Fails WP:GNG as a career (now former) minor leaguer who never made it to the Majors, and any news coverage of him is merely on a local level, not of national country-wide importance. — Bloom6132 ( talk) 13:19, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Wizardman 11:52, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
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Career minor league player who fails WP:MLB/N immediately. Has retired so will not ever satisfy. Only sources are WP:ROUTINE. PROD correctly removed as it was 2nd nomination. GauchoDude ( talk) 20:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
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Delete I think he might come close to passing GNG, but doesn't quite get there.-- Yankees10 23:37, 22 September 2014 (UTC)Keep Muboshgu's sources were enough for me.-- Yankees10 17:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)- After reading others responses, I'm pretty neutral at this point.-- Yankees10 16:54, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
I'll look at this one again. Certainly not as strong a case as Mitch Haniger had, might be a weak keep or a delete from me. – Muboshgu ( talk) 14:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)- Keep With a little bit more targeted searching, I found some more articles, like this Seattle Times piece on his graduation from Police Academy, and these Honolulu Star-Bulletin pieces [1] [2] [3], which combined with the existing articles cited, I think puts it over the mark as "significant coverage" over time from multiple publications. Yankees10, let me know if this changes your mind, or if it doesn't. – Muboshgu ( talk) 14:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah that's probably enough to change my vote. I think he goes beyond run of the mill so all I needed was a few more sources.-- Yankees10 17:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete.. This guy is an unexceptional ex-baseball player who never played in the Majors. Hawaii sources are of the standard "local boy gets drafted" variety that you get about almost every minor league player.. and the Seattle report is simply a human interest story... these don't rise to the level for me to say this run of the mill ballplayer is worthy of an article. Spanneraol ( talk) 15:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with Spanneraol's comment above. As I've said many times in these AfDs, if this sort of coverage is enough to pass GNG, then literally every U.S.-born player in Minor League Baseball has enough media coverage to pass GNG. - Bbny-wiki-editor ( talk) 21:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NBASEBALL and WP:GNG. Extremely non-notable minor league career with no appearances in MLB. Mdtemp ( talk) 18:34, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. Most minor league players do not get this much coverage, especially covering a multitude of aspects of his career (and retirement). 00:39, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - The one-pitch-strikeout material is pretty great, and added to coverage for sure, but it does not make for notability - certainly not WP:NBASEBALL. A mini-bio (as suggested at NBASEBALL) is all we should expect. -- Tgeairn ( talk) 00:36, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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- Delete – per Spanneraol's argument. Fails WP:GNG as a career (now former) minor leaguer who never made it to the Majors, and any news coverage of him is merely on a local level, not of national country-wide importance. — Bloom6132 ( talk) 13:19, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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