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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 17:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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Once again, we have one of those Iowa "communities" that appears to be a general locale rather than a town-like settlement. There are the usual pig and cattle references, and also a soil series, and a bucketload of false hits because Vinje is apparently a pretty common Norwegian name; it is also the name of two "municipalities" (actually more like what in the USA would be called a township) in Norway. Anyway, the Post-Bulletin article discloses that the building that is now a bar has been a whole series of commercial enterprises over the years; meanwhile the Lutheran church a quarter mile to the west, which used to be in the middle of its cemetery across the road until the 1940s-'50s, is the only other building anyone says is "in" Vinje. There is a house behind the bar, and there used to be one diagonally across the intersection from the bar, but putting it all together, the "community" comes across as a fairly diffuse area of farms rather than a town-ish concentration. And while I'm at it, the supposed population of 2 is a cutesy way of the saying that the proprietors of the bar live there. Mangoe ( talk) 03:13, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 08:02, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iowa-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 08:02, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep In addition to the bar (and its previous incarnations), Vinje also had a creamery at one point ( [1] [2]), and a 1961 article about a robbery at the grocery store described it as "a community of a few homes and a grocery store". There are also a fair number of relatively recent obituaries of Vinje residents, which makes me think the population may be more than 2 after all. All and all, it seems to be a fairly small community but a community nonetheless. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 13:58, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. I was able to expand the article fairly quickly. This was a platted community with a population of 23 (in 1924) which appears on a number of historic maps from the 1880s to the 1930s. Vinje was noted in its heyday. The church and cemetery in Vinje still operate, and the community still has a bar and some houses. Since notability is not temporary, we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Firsfron of Ronchester 00:24, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Unlike other AfDs in the same category, this community seems to pass the second bullet point of WP:GEOLAND as a unrecognized populated area with non trivial coverage in multiple sources as noted above. Even if the population today is only 2, there's still enough coverage about the place from history for an article. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 19:17, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:GNG as notability is not temporary. DmitriRomanovJr ( talk) 13:35, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per all above. 4meter4 ( talk) 16:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 17:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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Once again, we have one of those Iowa "communities" that appears to be a general locale rather than a town-like settlement. There are the usual pig and cattle references, and also a soil series, and a bucketload of false hits because Vinje is apparently a pretty common Norwegian name; it is also the name of two "municipalities" (actually more like what in the USA would be called a township) in Norway. Anyway, the Post-Bulletin article discloses that the building that is now a bar has been a whole series of commercial enterprises over the years; meanwhile the Lutheran church a quarter mile to the west, which used to be in the middle of its cemetery across the road until the 1940s-'50s, is the only other building anyone says is "in" Vinje. There is a house behind the bar, and there used to be one diagonally across the intersection from the bar, but putting it all together, the "community" comes across as a fairly diffuse area of farms rather than a town-ish concentration. And while I'm at it, the supposed population of 2 is a cutesy way of the saying that the proprietors of the bar live there. Mangoe ( talk) 03:13, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 08:02, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iowa-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 08:02, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep In addition to the bar (and its previous incarnations), Vinje also had a creamery at one point ( [1] [2]), and a 1961 article about a robbery at the grocery store described it as "a community of a few homes and a grocery store". There are also a fair number of relatively recent obituaries of Vinje residents, which makes me think the population may be more than 2 after all. All and all, it seems to be a fairly small community but a community nonetheless. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 13:58, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. I was able to expand the article fairly quickly. This was a platted community with a population of 23 (in 1924) which appears on a number of historic maps from the 1880s to the 1930s. Vinje was noted in its heyday. The church and cemetery in Vinje still operate, and the community still has a bar and some houses. Since notability is not temporary, we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Firsfron of Ronchester 00:24, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Unlike other AfDs in the same category, this community seems to pass the second bullet point of WP:GEOLAND as a unrecognized populated area with non trivial coverage in multiple sources as noted above. Even if the population today is only 2, there's still enough coverage about the place from history for an article. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 19:17, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:GNG as notability is not temporary. DmitriRomanovJr ( talk) 13:35, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per all above. 4meter4 ( talk) 16:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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